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Nessus posted:Rasmussen is biased TOWARDS Any poll that doesn't have Trump up by 14+% is a liberal poo poo poll.
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Gyges posted:Princeton Election Consortium has both senate forecasts and general election forecasts. Currently they have the Senate at likely being 50/50. The Democrats need 4 seats to get to 50. Currently they've got 2 all but certain pick ups thanks to Kirk and Johnson being DOA. Harry Reid is retiring and his seat isn't safe however. So in addition to keeping Reid's seat and picking up the Illinois and Wisconsin seats, they still need to pick up at least two. Chances are pretty good, especially with Marco Rubio running around telling women that they've got to keep their Zika babies because God said so. Thanks for the link, duder
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Aug 9, 2016 05:17
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Spiffster posted:I wish Indiana would listen to everyone around it except for Kentucky... Indiana isn't exactly pollsters #1 priority but come on man seeing the crossroads go blue again would be amazing. YOU AND ME BOTH
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Gyges posted:
They feel like the media should have talked about it for as much time as they did Kahn, that Kahn was paid off by Hillary, that Trump didn't say anything bad about him and the media is making it up. It's beyond pointless to argue with them, but family is family. At this point most of them don't even watch fox anymore. They get poo poo from Rush, Drudge, and Breitbart. All opinions are based around Hillary Bad, and you rationalize from there. I'm waiting to see how they're going to take a Trump loss. We're in California and they are convinced he is going to win the state. 
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Aug 9, 2016 05:22
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Crain posted:11th dimensional cheeto chess. Not related to the speech, but the news radio broadcasts I listened said "Trump made a speech that really said nothing new, and by the way, 50 top Republican administration DoD/DHS officials, including 2 former DHS heads, signed a letter calling Trump unfit for the Presidency."
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Spiffster posted:I wish Indiana would listen to everyone around it except for Kentucky... Indiana isn't exactly pollsters #1 priority but come on man seeing the crossroads go blue again would be amazing. The problem with this is the time and effort needed to poll the states. With this being such a crazy year, I doubt we'll know which of the more "stable" states are leaning until election night. gently caress, Georgia and Arizona being even remotely in play is huge.
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Crabtree posted:Did one of JEB! Bush's kids really endorse trump? Is Jeb somehow still a mess even after the loving primary?! George(of loving course) P. Bush, hero of the people. EDIT: can't find the tweet so take it with a grain of salt but George P. is also apparently an accelerationist so welp
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Aug 9, 2016 05:23
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On the plus side this probably means there won't be a third George Bush in the White House.
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Aug 9, 2016 05:24
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SC will not flip. But the idea of it warms the cockles of my cold, dead heart. We are the dumbest state in the union. Full stop.
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computer parts posted:On the plus side this probably means there won't be a third George Bush in the White House. True. I'm guessing he sees this as a shrewd political backstab or whatever but it's just an extremely dumb move that does nothing except make Jeb! somehow even more pitiable. I mean he's a terrible person, but there's something delightful about him that makes him hard to hate. Especially when his family seems to regularly poo poo all over him.
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Aug 9, 2016 05:28
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LeeMajors posted:SC will not flip. But the idea of it warms the cockles of my cold, dead heart. Kentucky. As someone from Kentucky, I think I can safely say this to be true.
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Aug 9, 2016 05:34
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LeeMajors posted:SC will not flip. But the idea of it warms the cockles of my cold, dead heart. I bet Trump will win with less of the popular than  did
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Sword of Chomsky posted:I'm waiting to see how they're going to take a Trump loss. We're in California and they are convinced he is going to win the state. Your best play is just to egg them on about it as much as possible beforehand so that when Trump loses, you'll have something to hold over them for a long time to shut them up when they bring up politics. "Oh yeah like that time you thought Trump would win and he got demolished?" The one thing conservatives hate more than anything is losing. Use that as a way to make politics as painful for them to talk about as possible.
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LeeMajors posted:SC will not flip. But the idea of it warms the cockles of my cold, dead heart. Arkansas here. That's our thing. Sword of Chomsky posted:They feel like the media should have talked about it for as much time as they did Kahn, that Kahn was paid off by Hillary, that Trump didn't say anything bad about him and the media is making it up. It's beyond pointless to argue with them, but family is family. Expect the usual: Denial, outrage about "cheating", raging about the downfall or America thanks to dumb voters, then retreating back to the warm cocoon of ultra right wing media as they wait for the fall to come and prove them right any day now.
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Aug 9, 2016 05:42
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Sword of Chomsky posted:I'm waiting to see how they're going to take a Trump loss. We're in California and they are convinced he is going to win the state.  Forget trying to change their minds about trump. If you want to try to influence them at all, try to get them to understand how utterly insane thinking this is.
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Aug 9, 2016 05:42
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Roflan posted:
This is a great way of turning Thanksgiving into an hours long unfiltered hot take about Mexicans
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Aug 9, 2016 05:43
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Sword of Chomsky posted:
Good time to make some money.
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Aug 9, 2016 05:44
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I don't see how talking about trump would be any better. If I had a family like that, I'd just stay as far away from politics as possible.
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Aug 9, 2016 05:45
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Geostomp posted:Expect the usual: Denial, outrage about "cheating", raging about the downfall or America thanks to dumb voters, then retreating back to the warm cocoon of ultra right wing media as they wait for the fall to come and prove them right any day now. Yep, this is all anyone can reasonably expect from Trump's base. If the election is close, Trump truthers will obsess over the closest states. If it's a landslide, they'll declare it suspicious how one-sided the result was. There is no sequence of events that they will interpret as a legitimate loss. Trump's die-hards subscribe to the "silent majority" worldview; they're already doing mental gymnastics to explain why people don't openly agree with them ("they must agree with me in secret!"). Deciding that the election is rigged because it doesn't feel like Hillary won is just a stone's throw from that.
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Aug 9, 2016 05:48
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The 'silent majority' is the voices the people who believe in the silent majority hear in their heads.
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LeeMajors posted:SC will not flip. But the idea of it warms the cockles of my cold, dead heart. I don' t know... has your legislature ever poisoned themselves with raw milk?
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Aug 9, 2016 06:22
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What gets me excited is the idea that the RNC is going to have to put money into what should be safe states. Arizona should be a state where the Republican candidate can show up, do a photo op with Sheriff Joe and sells shirts at a giant rally. Now it's a battleground and there'll be BLM protestors outside stealing his thunder. This is the best election.
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Aug 9, 2016 06:22
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Trump is already complaining that the election is rigged.
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Aug 9, 2016 06:24
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The fact we're even talking about Arizona and Georgia flipping blue is bonkers and just shows how disastrous Trump's run has been.
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What Republicans are going through grasping at straws believing that the "silent majority" is still out there is similar to Democrats in the 70's and 80's who believed the New Deal Coalition could be brought back together. It took a series of humiliatingly huge presidential losses and a shift of the party to the center to deliver the presidency to them again in 1992.
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Aug 9, 2016 06:28
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Susan Collins announced in a op ed that she won't vote for Trump.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Susan Collins announced in a op ed that she won't vote for Trump. 
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Can we just like burn the "cuck" half of twitter and keep the cool half oh hey word filter, ehn i'm leaving it
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Aug 9, 2016 06:43
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do they even know what that word means
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Wonder why Trump polls so low with women.
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LeeMajors posted:SC will not flip. But the idea of it warms the cockles of my cold, dead heart. Texas here -- actually we're pretty cool nvm
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Pakled posted:What Republicans are going through grasping at straws believing that the "silent majority" is still out there is similar to Democrats in the 70's and 80's who believed the New Deal Coalition could be brought back together. It took a series of humiliatingly huge presidential losses and a shift of the party to the center to deliver the presidency to them again in 1992. I get the sense this shift will happen later rather than sooner. Downing double seems to be the only move Republicans know how to play atm.
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Yinlock posted:do they even know what that word means I wondered that too. Feels like old people trying to be cool.
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OhFunny posted:I get the sense this shift will happen later rather than sooner. This probably won't happen til 2020-2024 as assuming Dems tie or take the senate and Hillary's Supreme court can kill/weaken Gerrymandering.
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There was some pretty funny Trumpeter on CNN yesterday. He offered some of the most interesting spin I've seen in a while. The guy was arguing that the fact that Hillary was easily leading Trump by 7-8 points, was actually a bad thing because with the lovely week Trump's been having, she should easily be beating him by double digits, and thus she's a failure. Granted, that's hilarious enough, but fast forward to today, and a new CNN poll DOES in fact have her up by double digits. 
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Aug 9, 2016 06:54
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I have an old classmate who is hyper cynical and possibly depressed that I recently reconnected with, only to find out he hates Trump but buys into the Shillary narrative. But engaging with him on any halfway serious topic is a pain in the rear end so he, the type of person who told me to look up the TPP when I asked him what problems he has with it, will never change his mind. I hope there are not too many of these types out there.
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Yinlock posted:do they even know what that word means I honestly don't think they do, but I can't figure out based on context what they might actually believe it means. Something like 'bitch' as used toward a male?
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Yinlock posted:do they even know what that word means It doesn't mean anything. It's just a word you use in order to indicate your membership in a certain group.
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Dexo posted:This probably won't happen til 2020-2024 as assuming Dems tie or take the senate and Hillary's Supreme court can kill/weaken Gerrymandering. One can hope. In the short term I expect the Republican held House to try to block everything Clinton puts forward as hard as they have with Obama since 2010. My biggest fear is the Freedom Caucus actually driving the car over the cliff and defaulting the US Debt.
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