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general anime posted:phreak loving owns
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never forget jungle sivir
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Aug 9, 2016 01:48
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KirbyKhan posted:Phreak IS Riot Games.
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Aug 9, 2016 02:00
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rabidsquid posted:do those pro analysts tell their players what to build, because evidence doesnt support that these people exist i mean every team in the lcs has a coach at the least and most of them have an analyst, i know clg has like two and tsm has who knows how many. however these analysts cannot force their players to buy the poo poo they tell them to in game so sometimes the analysts can say as much as they want to a player and it just wont matter.
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Aug 9, 2016 06:16
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why did they let boxxy write all the champion voice lines!!!!! why!!!!!!!!!!!
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Aug 9, 2016 08:10
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More important than phreakhate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfVr61aKUG0
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Aug 9, 2016 08:15
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Going back to Aatrox for a moment. http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/2788937377/40898001?tab=overview I can't tell if it's my opponents having an aneurysm from seeing an Aatrox for the first time in years or if this crit build actually works.
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Aug 9, 2016 08:51
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that is a very bad aatrox build deadmans is extremely bad as his defensive item too
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Aug 9, 2016 09:12
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RealFoxy posted:The worst part about Phreak is that I saw the new class spotlight on the Demon Hunters in WoW and they were trying so hard to emulate the champion spotlight style. It's pretty much become the standard for games that have characters with unique abilities. The DC Comics MOBA (that died in the crib) and Heroes of the Storm copied it blatantly. I'm sure they are not the only ones.
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Aug 9, 2016 09:58
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Mierenneuker posted:It's pretty much become the standard for games that have characters with unique abilities. The DC Comics MOBA (that died in the crib) This still makes me sad. It had an incredibly rough closed beta, but by the end of its life had finally found a unique identity and was releasing a ton of really fun heroes. Krypto is like a Rework Shen that isn't incredibly lame, Lex Luthor had Gangplanks barrel gimmick before Gangplank had it (on top of being heimerdonger with a global ult), and Sinestro is still one of my favorite moba designs.
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Aug 9, 2016 10:40
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Infinite Crisis had the issue of having their first available game mode being dominion
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Aug 9, 2016 13:36
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I really don't think there's room for more than two big traditional MOBAs. League and DOTA will be king until the genre is dead.
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Aug 9, 2016 13:47
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Sexpansion posted:I really don't think there's room for more than two big traditional MOBAs. League and DOTA will be king until the genre is dead. Smite's apparently doing pretty fine; I imagine its gimmick of being a console MOBA with intuitive controls (for a controller) will help it last a good while too.
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Aug 9, 2016 13:50
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i think someone could release a game that goes a little harder for what league has tried to do (individual player skill, probably less than 5v5) that could cut into both league and dota's player base a decent amount. stuff like dawngate was well made but was basically just "league but we added actual roles you pick" from what i can remember, they're not really setting themselves up for success with a model like that. like i was sure smite would be a huge failure because it was just "league with rotated camera" at launch but it seems like theres a demand for a more action-oriented, 3rd person camera kinda moba that smite has filled, but im sure someone could just do that better and totally kill that game.
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Aug 9, 2016 13:54
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Neurolimal posted:Smite's apparently doing pretty fine; I imagine its gimmick of being a console MOBA with intuitive controls (for a controller) will help it last a good while too. Yeah, I mean Overwatch has MOBA-esque mechanics. But in terms of top down, bog-standard MOBAs, there can only be two.
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Aug 9, 2016 13:58
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it's difficult to compete in the moba market with the sheer amount of resources riot have available to them. some games do quite well though, for instance - awesomenauts had a french chameleon who called you a smelly imbecile
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Aug 9, 2016 14:01
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i havent been playing a ton lately so the game is dying, actually, and will be replaced with what i am playing: Tokyo Mirage Sessions. all hail our new anime single player moba on the nintendo
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Aug 9, 2016 14:20
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if they add chrom to league, well, im okay with that
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Aug 9, 2016 14:21
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i like it when touma says easy easy
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Aug 9, 2016 14:22
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league needs to start learning from superior japanese rpgs and add dating sims elements.
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Aug 9, 2016 14:24
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rabidsquid posted:i havent been playing a ton lately so the game is dying, actually, and will be replaced with what i am playing: Tokyo Mirage Sessions. all hail our new anime single player moba on the nintendo More music vidoes is just what league needs I agree.
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Aug 9, 2016 14:24
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Tired Moritz posted:league needs to start learning from superior japanese rpgs and add dating sims elements. if u want to get enchanted crystal arrow u better rub ur ashe
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Aug 9, 2016 14:26
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Honestly, they could integrate Krypto's gimmick into League and not lose much in the process. That gimmick being that Krypto could throw his bone and dash to it for an empowered ability, but allies could pick the bone up and he could dash to them, and allies could throw the bone farther than Krypto could. So you had incredibly satisfying plays where you'd pass your bone to your jungler, he would throw it behind the enemy, and suddenly the enemy is slowed, rooted, and his escape is cut off. Just replace bone with sword, obviously. I mean dotes ripped off Nightmare Superman's passive wholesale for Vengeful Spirit 
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Aug 9, 2016 14:28
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also, I just want to say that dang it League of legends, what's the point of buffing Sona so you can just nerf her till she's trash? why do you keep doing this
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Aug 9, 2016 14:29
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instead of buying normal items with your gold you can also buy pizzicato five cds and lipstick. keep gifting them to the enemy ahri, then after being charmed 6+ times she will become your gf
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Aug 9, 2016 14:32
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Remember this being discussed a lot back when IC's failure was in the news: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2015-06-04-the-persistent-myth-of-the-moba-market quote is from mid 2015 around the times of HOTS launch: quote:To put it in context; this is a genre which Blizzard is entering now, and we find ourselves asking serious questions about whether they've got what it takes to succeed. Blizzard, creators of the world's most successful MMO by an order of magnitude, progenitors of the world's dominant RTS and its associated pro gaming leagues, oh, and by the by, creators of Warcraft 3, the game that spawned the whole MOBA genre to begin with; we're not sure they have the chops. Valve is in the fray already, but while their MOBA title, DOTA 2, is doing okay, it's not taken the world by storm either and gets by on a relatively small but very devoted fanbase. That's Valve, creators of Half-Life, owners of the Steam platform that basically resuscitated PC gaming from its deathbed; that Valve. They're getting by in the MOBA market thanks to a devoted following. There's similar articles about MMOs/WOW and I agree with those too largely. Every post-WOW MMO I've ever seen has basically not last more than 1-3 months as a popular game and then becomes extremely niche with diehard fans. Meanwhile, WOW (which is now what, 12 years old?) and has like 4x the playerbase of any of the other MMOs or probably the equivalent of all of them put together not even including when the new expansion comes out next month. Most places where people discuss MMOs they constantly lament any good new ones, and it's probably because a real market for them has never existed beyond the apex of Everquest and WOW. A real market for MOBAs has never really existed beyond DOTA / League / DOTA 2. Smite and HotS get by on extremely passionate niche followings. Mechanically I really like both of those games but I can never convince anyone to play either of them with me so I mostly don't.
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i feel like "imitation mobas/mmos don't do well" isn't a particularly hot take in 2016 because i dont remember any other DOOM clones setting the world on fire, ditto for GTA clones and COD or Gears ripoffs. No one really looks at Uncharted as a Gears ripoff even though it is also a third person shooter the same way no one thought Gears was a Resident Evil 4 ripoff, but when anyone looks at elder scrolls online or infinite crisis they just feel too similar to the original thing and instead of people caring about whatever that game is doing its just a mental comparison to the thing they already have and only the most direhard fans that are burned out on game prime would really care. i think hots was the only moba that had potential to really do well but they forgot to make the game interesting so it just felt like extremely lovely league of legends instead of how most blizzard games tend to feel. like compare overwatch and hots, i dont even think a single person at blizzard working on hots gave a poo poo and frankly i suspect the reason they didn't have a moba in development when there was an obvious demand for a successor to dota was because no one at blizzard cared about making one.
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FF11 and FF14 have both done decently. (14 after a huge relaunch, but the relaunch was because the game was just broken). also dota 2 has something like a million people playing it at any given time. I wouldn't really call that a 'small but very devoted fanbase.' I can get that compared to LoL it's smaller, but that's like saying the meteor that killed the dinosaurs was small compared to the sun. I think there's space for smaller games in the market for both genres, but they have to go in with the knowledge that they'll be alternatives, smaller, more niche experiences, that won't be able to compete with LoL/WoW. I don't think a million players, or a million subscribers, is a failure. It's just not the most.
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Endorph posted:FF11 and FF14 have both done decently. (14 after a huge relaunch, but the relaunch was because the game was just broken). Endorph posted:if they add chrom to league, well, im okay with that 
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Not gonna lie, logged in this morning just to get the golden chest. I got a zed skin shard. Honestly, the whole thing was not as exciting as I expected. You also get two thirds of a chest. I randomly got 1/3rd of a chest on my alt and together that opened into dunkmaster darius and mecha sion. I got project yi on that account, but like I don't even care especially with the other two drops. At least yi scraps for more than zed.
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Aug 9, 2016 16:21
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Speaking of shards, I got another chest yesterday, opened to get a Pulsefire Ezreal shard, and now I'm lamenting if I will ever get anything I actually want to disenchant. I'm about 100 orange essence from Dark Star Thresh.
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Aug 9, 2016 16:47
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I got project: Fiora but I accidentally forged an icon instead of the skin, oops.
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Aug 9, 2016 17:00
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Ignite Memories posted:What golden chest? Buy one of each of the Red, Green, Blue chests with IP. Then buy the yellow chest with IP. Open all of them. The yellow one contains a project skin shard. All of them give you project cores that you can use to make the project shard a full skin.
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Oh, ok, I see them now. My yellow box had a project zed shard, which is a cool looking skin for a champ i'm really not into. Is there any way to get another yellow chest, or do I just hope for project ashe in red boxes?
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Endorph posted:I think there's space for smaller games in the market for both genres, but they have to go in with the knowledge that they'll be alternatives, smaller, more niche experiences, that won't be able to compete with LoL/WoW. I don't think a million players, or a million subscribers, is a failure. It's just not the most. In fairness, this is the situation in a whole lot of industries. Wikipedia's got a veritable graveyard of WWE competitors.
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Tired Moritz posted:dark star thresh looks terrible A lot of Thresh's skins are silly, but I love the hero these dumb things are attached to. Infinite scaling, a hook, scaling for every variety of item build, and One Punch gimmick? Yes please. E: speaking of weird skins, why does Thresh have a Blood Moon skin? Is Lucian from Psychic Samurai Island? Neurolimal fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Aug 9, 2016 |
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Vermain posted:In fairness, this is the situation in a whole lot of industries. Wikipedia's got a veritable graveyard of WWE competitors.
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Riot said you'll be able to disenchant all the extra poo poo after the event is over. Does anyone know if you'll get orange or blue essence out of it?
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