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RZA Encryption posted:Ok, I'm starting to buy the "Trump's being forced to run against his will and wants to sabotage it" theory. Putin called in some of his debts. Is my second favorite conspiracy theory. My Favorite is still Hillary and Bill cooked this up to ensure she gets voted in.
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Demon Of The Fall posted:Me too. Nothing else makes sense. I was still of the "This was a publicity stunt that went waaaay too far and now he has no idea what to do" camp.
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Aug 9, 2016 21:00
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Oh look "he meant their vote"
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Aug 9, 2016 21:01
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BonoMan posted:I don't think he's arguing against you dude. He's just saying in an ideal world you'd do both. He's not saying if you can't do both don't do either. Exactly. I'm not disagreeing with him.
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Doccers posted:I was still of the "This was a publicity stunt that went waaaay too far and now he has no idea what to do" camp. It would probably help if he actually listened to his advisers. But if Trump's appearance on any reality show has shown us, he doesn't listen to anyone.
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Doccers posted:I was still of the "This was a publicity stunt that went waaaay too far and now he has no idea what to do" camp. This campaign is what happens when you have a candidate that knows nothing about politics, is very used to edited Apprentice episodes and wants to personally control their message and campaign. It is a disaster, but there is no conspiracy required.
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kaleedity posted:this is an interesting case for the secret service I'm sure This feels like the Gifford's lead-up with Palin.
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zoux posted:Oh look "he meant their vote" lol, and that shows how they can stop her from appointing justices if she's elected...how?
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Mr Hootington posted:It isn't a "Big Lie." It is "The Hard Truth About How It Really Is." For some people yes. For other people like this relative, Trump doesn't really intend to build a wall. That's just political rhetoric. No, he REALLY means e-Verify, which just so happens to be what this relative really wants. Nevermind the fact that Trump has given hyperbolic facts about the size of the wall, its cost, and how it will be paid for. That's all just pandering to voters and anyone who believe it will happen is stupid and doesn't know how campaigning is based on lies to attract voters. It's so ridiculous, how could that possibly be what Trump means? No, no. He really just means an electronic wall, I assure you.
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Doccers posted:I was still of the "This was a publicity stunt that went waaaay too far and now he has no idea what to do" camp. This is Season 3 of Black Mirror playing out before our eyes.
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zoux posted:Oh look "he meant their vote" Hahahaahahahahahaahas'lkja'dksja2!
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theflyingorc posted:lol, and that shows how they can stop her from appointing justices if she's elected...how? Because the NRA has lobbying power in the senate duh!  Although calling the media dishonest liars will surely make them give you fair coverage.
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theflyingorc posted:lol, and that shows how they can stop her from appointing justices if she's elected...how? Like I said, bad spin.
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Aug 9, 2016 21:04
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I didn't mean my political opponent should be murdered, I meant... something unification of spirit?
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Demon Of The Fall posted:Me too. Nothing else makes sense. The other explanation that makes sense is that Trump has lost his desire to actually become president and is trying to get out of it in a way that doesn't involve backpedaling or losing fair and square.
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It's great that they are treating "2nd amendment people" as a term that is common and widely used. "You have GREAT political POWER.."
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Next week he will say something like: "Some folks might have interpreted my statement as a command to attack Crooked Hillary. That was just a distortion by the media. Seriously though, it would be quiet convenient and good for our formerly strong nation if she had a bullet in, say, her head. Fight against the establishment, with their regulations on murder and stuff. Once I'm president I can pardon whoever I want!"
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haveblue posted:The other explanation that makes sense is that Trump has lost his desire to actually become president and is trying to get out of it in a way that doesn't involve backpedaling or losing fair and square. Huh, so it's more of a "please oh please let it be rigged against me" sort of thing? Makes just as much sense as anything else going on.
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Clearly theyre spinning this that he's using the words "second amendment" in the same way that musicians use "Hello <city_name>!" in between songs at a concert.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:For some people yes. For other people like this relative, Trump doesn't really intend to build a wall. That's just political rhetoric. No, he REALLY means e-Verify, which just so happens to be what this relative really wants. Wait. Are you my cousin because this is my grandpa you are describing. I do get you though. The trump camp is either full blown believers or deniers who are so willfully ignorant. They are the same folks who do not understand dog whistles or that the world doesn't work like "back in their day" anymore.
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climboutonalimb posted:Clearly theyre spinning this that he's using the words "second amendment" in the same way that musicians use "Hello <city_name>!" in between songs at a concert. Hello two corinthians
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Doccers posted:I was still of the "This was a publicity stunt that went waaaay too far and now he has no idea what to do" camp. A former aide said she was hired to get Trump 10% of the primary vote. "It was a protest campaign".
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Shes Not Impressed posted:All citizens are 2nd Amendment people Stop oppressing my first amendment with your second!
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Shes Not Impressed posted:All citizens are 2nd Amendment people My 14A protects your 2A!
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zoux posted:Oh look "he meant their vote" Worst possible spin you could put on this
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After of few days of this baking in, it would be an excellent time to poll. So, come help us make a poll http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3785972
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So what's the future for Trump after his loss? I can't imagine all this poo poo is going to make doing business any easier for him in the near future. Or is the loop already closing around his fraudulent activities (Trump University, other lawsuits) and this is his last ditch effort to save himself?
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Shes Not Impressed posted:All citizens are 2nd Amendment people nah only those with pale skin Also, people keep making this big deal about how Trump needs to moderate his message and stop with the attacks and blah blah but all the poo poo he says is stuff that the base that got him selected as the GOP nominee all love. It's just a continuation of the Republican party not realizing they can't control the far right of the party and their hatred that they cultivated for votes. Trump got nominated by these people and he's still just pandering to them because of that and the GOP is wringing their hands because they still don't understand how that happened, while running around saying "that's not my party!" when they've previously benefited from the fringe hatred they cultivated for years and years
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Lotka Volterra posted:Worst possible spin you could put on this I look forward to Trump proving you wrong in a few days.
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oddjobs posted:So what's the future for Trump after his loss? His own show on a conservative news network where everyone tells him how great he is.
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Lotka Volterra posted:Worst possible spin you could put on this "Donald Trump is right. Hillary Clinton and/or her potential choice for SCOTUS needs to, (and deserves to) be shot. We, along with the rest of the GOP, have a great unity since we stand firmly behind him and if you are a true American you should to. Do what's necessary for a republican future."
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RZA Encryption posted:Ok, I'm starting to buy the "Trump's being forced to run against his will and wants to sabotage it" theory. It's easier to believe that he doesn't think there's anything wrong with what he says. He's not the type to allow constructive criticism.
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This might help Trump win an election... if it were being held in the Philippines.
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Every time my inner Arzy goes "what if this pivot is real  "That guy never learns!!
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If the Trump campaign has shown one thing, it's that if you don't like their current spin on the latest awful thing he said, just wait a day for another. Can't wait to see which children's cartoon gets used as an excuse this time.
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Valentin posted:Don't think I've seen this here: someone scrapes device data from Twitter to develop a fairly convincing case that Trump tweets from an Android and his staff tweets from an iPhone (and you can therefore tell whether a given tweet is authentic Donald or not). This is literally how L tracked down Kira from Death Note.
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Lord Hydronium posted:If the Trump campaign has shown one thing, it's that if you don't like their current spin on the latest awful thing he said, just wait a day for another. Can't wait to see which children's cartoon gets used as an excuse this time. Luckily for them, they only have to wait for his next campaign event in a couple of hours.
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