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paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
But yeah like 99% of that list is mad racist, and the rest is almost always done for racist reasons.

Edit: preaching to the choir here obviously.

paragon1 fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Aug 9, 2016

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8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
I wanna know what race is

I want you to show me

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Literally The Worst posted:

Literally yes to all oft he above

Yeah, this.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

8-Bit Scholar posted:

I wanna know what race is

I want you to show me

It's all in your head so I'd have to crack open your skull first. Unfortunately, yours appears to have been fashioned in an incredibly dense and heretofore unknown material so that may not be possible. We're all really quite excited by the potential applications.

Please donate yourself to a material science lab, for the good of humanity.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

8-Bit Scholar posted:

I wanna know what race is

I want you to show me

Tell us what you think and then we'll correct your mistakes.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Who What Now posted:

Tell us what you think and then we'll correct your mistakes.

He needs to take a little time, a little time to think it over.

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

With the list that long and that blatant, I just want to clarify that I didn't add anything to make fun of it. The bit about wanting his kids to only marry within your race, the bit about "certain ethnic groups" having lower IQs, all original to the piece.

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Goon Danton posted:

the bit about "certain ethnic groups" having lower IQs,

People from West Virginia deserve to be told the truth.


paragon1 posted:

It's all in your head so I'd have to crack open your skull first. Unfortunately, yours appears to have been fashioned in an incredibly dense and heretofore unknown material so that may not be possible. We're all really quite excited by the potential applications.

wowee

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Goon Danton posted:

With the list that long and that blatant, I just want to clarify that I didn't add anything to make fun of it. The bit about wanting his kids to only marry within your race, the bit about "certain ethnic groups" having lower IQs, all original to the piece.

Interesting fact: the amount of time you need to be exposed to libertarianism to easily believe this statement is four minutes twenty seconds. This number is widely considered to be skewed due to a few idiots who never catch on.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

paragon1 posted:

Interesting fact: the amount of time you need to be exposed to libertarianism to easily believe this statement is four minutes twenty seconds. This number is widely considered to be skewed due to a few idiots who never catch on.

Really? I could have sworn it was sixteen minutes and twenty eight seconds?

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

8-Bit Scholar posted:

People from West Virginia deserve to be told the truth.


wowee

West Virginian is not an ethnicity no matter how much they gently caress their cousins.

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

paragon1 posted:

West Virginian is not an ethnicity no matter how much they gently caress their cousins.

Race is a social construct, cousins doubly so

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Really? I could have sworn it was sixteen minutes and twenty eight seconds?

It depends on the population you're testing. When you do it on whites exclusively it comes out to fourteen minutes eighty eight seconds.

Curvature of Earth
Sep 9, 2011

Projected cost of
invading Canada:
$900

8-Bit Scholar posted:

I wanna know what race is

I want you to show me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raNGeq3_DtM&t=94s
Was that deliberate?

Historically, race has been defined by racists using arbitrary, inconsistently-applied and constantly-shifting standards. The current scientific consensus is that "race", as imagined by racists, doesn't actually exist. So, in practice, race is a social construct, something you both identify yourself as but also an identity others force upon you (this is why you can feel alienated from your racial identity, and you can try and distance yourself from it, but you can't really opt out of it, since others will keep classifying you based on various factors).

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!
I am bad at math, apparently. :(

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

8-Bit Scholar posted:

Race is a social construct, cousins doubly so

Hello reasonless non-sequiter, meet my friend casual dismissal.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Captain_Maclaine posted:

I am bad at math, apparently. :(

No I'm just not good enough at it to get the joke right away.

Sloppy Milkshake
Nov 9, 2004

I MAKE YOU HUMBLE

Curvature of Earth posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raNGeq3_DtM&t=94s
Was that deliberate?

Historically, race has been defined by racists using arbitrary, inconsistently-applied and constantly-shifting standards. The current scientific consensus is that "race", as imagined by racists, doesn't actually exist. So, in practice, race is a social construct, something you both identify yourself as but also an identity others force upon you (this is why you can feel alienated from your racial identity, and you can try and distance yourself from it, but you can't really opt out of it, since others will keep classifying you based on various factors).

hmmmm

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
We're never going to get another funny libertarian, are we? :sigh:

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Curvature of Earth posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raNGeq3_DtM&t=94s
Was that deliberate?

Historically, race has been defined by racists using arbitrary, inconsistently-applied and constantly-shifting standards. The current scientific consensus is that "race", as imagined by racists, doesn't actually exist. So, in practice, race is a social construct, something you both identify yourself as but also an identity others force upon you (this is why you can feel alienated from your racial identity, and you can try and distance yourself from it, but you can't really opt out of it, since others will keep classifying you based on various factors).

I believe you are responding to what is called a "joke."

paragon1 posted:

Hello reasonless non-sequiter, meet my friend casual dismissal.

You too.

"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so."

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

nnnnnooooooooo


paragon1 posted:

Hello reasonless non-sequiter, meet my friend casual dismissal.

So you deny that race is a social construct?

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Goon Danton posted:

I believe you are responding to what is called a "joke."

To be fair 8-Bit has a history of people not getting his jokes.

Golbez
Oct 9, 2002

1 2 3!
If you want to take a shot at me get in line, line
1 2 3!
Baby, I've had all my shots and I'm fine
Just throwing darts at the biggest targets...

Goon Danton posted:

Is it racist to only want your children to marry someone of their own race?

Is it racist to oppose busing children to distant schools to achieve racial integration?

Is it racist to not want interracial grandchildren?

Is it racist to oppose the removal of the Confederate flag from state capitols?

Is it racist to say that the extent of racism in American society is exaggerated?

Is it racist to be weary of all the streets named after Martin Luther King Jr.?

Is it racist to point out that certain ethnic groups have higher high school drop-out rates than others?

Is it racist to point out that certain ethnic groups have lower IQs than others?

Is it racist to point out that certain ethnic groups have lower test scores than others?

Is it racist to say that all lives matter?

Is it racist to notice the income disparities that exist among racial groups?

Is it racist to criticize certain ethnic groups for looting, destroying, and burning down their own neighborhoods?

Is it racist to be concerned about the changing demographics of certain areas of the country?

Is it racist to not want your grandchildren to live in a country where people of their race are in the minority?

yes, you loving massive honkey

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Goon Danton posted:

I believe you are responding to what is called a "joke."


You too.

"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so."

It would help if he was at all funny.

8-Bit Scholar posted:

So you deny that race is a social construct?

No, but I am starting to think you might not be literate, and that your posts seeming to form any sort of coherent thought at all is a massive coincidence.

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

paragon1 posted:

No, but I am starting to think you might not be literate, and that your posts seeming to form any sort of coherent thought at all is a massive coincidence.

oh word?


Golbez posted:

yes, you loving massive honkey

don't be racist

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

8-Bit Scholar posted:

don't be racist

Not hard to do when it wasn't racist.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Goon Danton posted:

Does saying one of these things, holding one of these opinions, making one of these observations, or espousing one of these viewpoints mean that one hates, wishes ill will toward, or intends to commit violence against some racial, ethnic, or national group? Not at all. They may, in fact, be based on common sense, historical fact, or personal preference. Racism has nothing to do with it.

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless


Mods please change my name to "Covert White Supremacy" thx

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Who What Now posted:

We're never going to get another funny libertarian, are we? :sigh:

Not with a debby downer attitude like that we're not

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

QuarkJets posted:

Not with a debby downer attitude like that we're not

It would have made my birthday perfect if jrod had tried to reg an alt today.

Twerkteam Pizza
Sep 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

Who What Now posted:

It would have made my birthday perfect if jrod had tried to reg an alt today.

I have stored up enough Hbomberguy videos to last me until winter

Then I'm screwed

Stinky_Pete
Aug 16, 2015

Stinkier than your average bear
Lipstick Apathy
I'm gonna do my best to be nice here. Finding a comfortable intellectual position on race can be a long and difficult journey for some people, especially those of us who just don't see a lot of the systemic effects that prompt and prioritize the racial conversation.

It's easy to feel unfairly blamed for something that you never asked for and rarely see for yourself. With that in mind, I'd like to make a sincere effort at answering 8-bit Scholar's question, "What is race?" I want 8-bit Scholar to acknowledge that it's a nebulous concept and in some ways it's like asking, "What is art?"

A race is a pigeonhole according to physical attributes which separates members of a society, in ways directed by societal forces such as wealth, politics, academia, and art. The white/black distinction was used in early America and other colonies to keep serf-like white laborers in cooperation with a system which oppressed them to a lesser degree than black people. In the early 20th century, the "Iberian" race was evoked in order to exclude large populations of Irish and Italian immigrants from the White pigeonhole. In Britain the Romani and Eastern Europeans are excluded.



As Curvature said, the boundaries of the pigeonholes have changed over the centuries, but our culture has imbued our heads with these pigeonholes, and it's what we do about it that counts.

Stinky_Pete fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Aug 10, 2016

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Stinky_Pete posted:

It's easy to feel unfairly blamed for something that you never asked for and rarely see for yourself. With that in mind, I'd like to make a sincere effort at answering 8-bit Scholar's question, "What is race?" I want 8-bit Scholar to acknowledge that it's a nebulous concept and in some ways it's like asking, "What is art?"

ha ha you don't say?

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
You are just aggressively worthless, aren't you?

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

8-Bit Scholar posted:

ha ha you don't say?

In a world dominated by the Progressive Left and a rapidly increasing trend toward socialism, the case for capitalist anarchism should easily fall under the umbrella of conservative “limited government” principles. It is worth mentioning, though, that the Mises Institute is not an anarchist organization; it is an economic one. The namesake of the institute, Ludwig von Mises, was certainly not an anarchist. He was, as the title of Jörg Guido Hülsmann’s great book on Mises asserts, a liberal, in the classical sense.

The Institute is a welcome place for ideologues of all stripes, from the left to the right and those who fall outside the political spectrum, as many of its faculty do. But as the world moves increasingly in a socialist and totalitarian direction, there is no building on the planet that at any given time holds as many intellectual powerhouses making an argument in favor of virtues that most conservatives hold dear: free market capitalism and its corollary of a limited government. Now more than ever, friends of these ideas need to arm ourselves with the intellectual ammunition to combat the destructive ideas of socialism, and there is no better place for young (or old) conservatives to do this than the Mises Institute and its annual Mises University.

Sloppy Milkshake
Nov 9, 2004

I MAKE YOU HUMBLE

Golbez posted:

Is it racist to point out that certain ethnic groups have higher high school drop-out rates than others?

Is it racist to point out that certain ethnic groups have lower IQs than others?

Is it racist to point out that certain ethnic groups have lower test scores than others?

Is it racist to notice the income disparities that exist among racial groups?

Is it racist to be concerned about the changing demographics of certain areas of the country?

Is it racist to not want your grandchildren to live in a country where people of their race are in the minority?

actually all of those are not racist to say and in fact are extremely necessary to say if you're at all interested in dealing racism

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Sloppy Milkshake posted:

actually all of those are not racist to say and in fact are extremely necessary to say if you're at all interested in dealing racism

yes but let's be real he's not doing it in that way

Sloppy Milkshake
Nov 9, 2004

I MAKE YOU HUMBLE

gently caress i meant to say "dealing WITH racism" please do not deal racism

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

I just bought a whole new deck of race cards though

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Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Sloppy Milkshake posted:

gently caress i meant to say "dealing WITH racism" please do not deal racism

Too late.

*opens up trench coat* "Hey kids, wanna buy some privilege? First hits always free..."

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