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filthychimp
Jan 2, 2006
Damned dirty ape
Yeah, there's a reason why no one ever recommends the Maoyuusha novels. Maybe you can justify it by saying it's written like a play, but it still takes genuine work to read it and visualize what's going on.

Though I love how no one in the series has an actual name. Everyone's running around introducing themselves as Merchant, Crimson Scholar, Hero, etc.

The Maoyuu Maou Yuusha - "Be mine, Hero" "I refuse!" manga version is definitely the best one.

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Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

filthychimp posted:

Yeah, there's a reason why no one ever recommends the Maoyuusha novels. Maybe you can justify it by saying it's written like a play, but it still takes genuine work to read it and visualize what's going on.

Though I love how no one in the series has an actual name. Everyone's running around introducing themselves as Merchant, Crimson Scholar, Hero, etc.

The Maoyuu Maou Yuusha - "Be mine, Hero" "I refuse!" manga version is definitely the best one.

Though in a sense that does justify it to be more like a play, I guess, more like the author really did not care for making names and instead used JRPG titles. I could say that he's much better in Log Horizon, if not for the fact that practically no one is translating the Light Novels, his current legal status is shrouded in mystery and the whole fandom seems dead.

100% recommend this version. Mostly because it's the one that's the furthest in the story. But bear in mind, the last issue that was translated, was last year December 7th. Good luck finding the raws if you can read japanese.

Annointed fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Aug 6, 2016

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Personally, I felt that by the point the translations dropped off the story had kind of gotten silly.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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I had no clue there was a manga, and I am extremely excited about reading This translation that I found on Kissmanga. Seriously, thank you guys!

Edit: Oh my god, this is so much better it's almost impossible to compare the two. I'm talking apples and oranges here, folks.



vs.

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The Demon King: “Would this Lab Coat and Robe do?”

The Hero: “Doesn’t look like it.”

The Chief Maid: “No way.”

The Demon King: “But it’s so comfortable…”

The Hero: “Noble daughters don’t choose their clothes based on comfort.”

The Chief Maid: “That’s true. You should probably wear some clothes that draw attention and provoke nervousness.”

The Demon King: “Are you saying I don’t provoke nervousness?”

The Chief Maid: “That is not what I was saying. However…”

The Demon King: “What?”

The Chief Maid: “Please lend me your ear for a moment.”

The Demon King: *whispers*

The Demon King: “Hero, Hero.”

The Hero: “What is it?”

The Demon King: “Meat which does not provoke nervousness is useless meat, right?”

The Hero: “What’s this all of a sudden?”

The Demon King: “It’s as I said.”

The Hero: “Ah—”

The Demon King: “Is it useless meat? Is it not?!”

Edit:
Getting back to the point of the thread, I gave the first three chapters of Everyone Else is a Returnee a read, and while it's way too early to make a judgement call on the series I like what I've seen so far. Basic plot is that Earth is about to evolve into a planet that can support magic and monsters and all those good fantasy elements, but it'd be dangerous as hell for humans to have all that dropped on them, so god teleports all of humanity to safer, mana-using planets to learn the basics of fantasy survival from the other world inhabitants.

All of humanity except for one unlucky korean dude, who suddenly finds himself alone in the world. An angel appears, describes the situation, and says basically "You're not gonna die, time is semi-stopped so you won't age, but since we can't send you to another world you're going to need to train yourself here to survive." Since there's no mana yet, he can't learn any magic, so he has to do things the hard way. After ten years, he learns enough martial arts to defend himself. After 50 years, he's basically unstoppable. After hundreds of years, a trip around the world, learning every language, hunting down every species on the planet, he's running out of things to do to keep himself sane.

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“When! I! Read! Fantasy! Novels! They! All! Learn! Skills! Easily! But! Why! Can! I! Not! Do! Anything! Easily!?”


Yu IlHan spat out each word each time he hammered the piece of metal on the anvil and ground his teeth. ‘Then don’t do it’ – these words came up to Rita’s throat but as she knew that Yu IlHan wouldn’t stop even if she said so, she just called wind and cooled the sweat on his head.


“Just! Teach! Me! The! Skill! To! Call! Wind!”


[I said you need to handle mana?]


“ARRGH!”

This is all pretty much introductory, the story doesn't really start until chapter 4, which isn't translated yet, when supposedly everyone will return to the planet and life will start back up. Who knows where the story will go, but I like the author's writing style and I have great expectations towards how a character who has been basically alone for a millennia will deal with the return of all of humanity. If anyone can read Korean, Munpia has up to Chapter 5 available untranslated for free. Like I said, almost certainly too early to tell, but I like what little I've seen and I'm hoping I'm not hyping up a horrible flop.

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Captain_duck
Dec 3, 2005

I swear nice bushes!
I had some boring time at my parents this weekend, so i read some more Reincarnated as a monster novels because thats apparently totally my thing.

The best of what i read was Semi Datte Tensei Sureba Ryuu Ni Naru

It's a bittersweet story about Cicada that reincarnates as Dragon. It's a bittersweet story about making friends. It seemed in the beginning that it would turn into furry smut but it didn't, so keep reading. The whole story has this great childrens book feeling, i feel like it could be ghibli movie.

I've also been reading Goblin Kingdom

Which starts out a bit like Slime tensei does with the main char (in this case a goblin) starting his own village, but while Slime is horrendously overpowered straight from the start, this goblin is only a tad OP, bringing the story a tad more suspense.

Captain_duck fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Aug 8, 2016

Sesquiculus
Aug 15, 2002

Annointed posted:

A manga series that no one is translating and a one cour anime that hardly covers any significant portion of the work. Though I do recommend reading the manga series if you want less narration, the visualization that comes with being a manga comic cuts a poo poo ton of narration needed. Visualizations can just be drawn and and tones can be expressed by fonts, framing of the panel and their facial expressions.

The manga series isn't being translated because there are already legal, official translations on Bookwalker: https://global.bookwalker.jp/series/21530/

I've been hoping they would show up on some other service, I don't really want to sign up for Bookwalker just for that, but they do exist.

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Sesquiculus posted:

The manga series isn't being translated because there are already legal, official translations on Bookwalker: https://global.bookwalker.jp/series/21530/

I've been hoping they would show up on some other service, I don't really want to sign up for Bookwalker just for that, but they do exist.

Thanks for pointing this out to me! The mangacow pages went all the way to the end of Volume 14, and I was worried I'd never get a chance to read volumes 15 and 16. 13 bucks is a small price to pay to finish such a goddamned incredible series like this.

Captain Bravo fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Aug 8, 2016

The Lord of Hats
Aug 22, 2010

Hello, yes! Is being very good day for posting, no?
ISSTH needs to update again already, I don't want to have to wait to find out what ridiculous conning-centric Divine Ability Meng Hao creates when he probably discovers the super secret 100th Ancient Ruin :negative:

Seriously though, Meng Hao is the best protagonist.

Algid
Oct 10, 2007


ISSTH spoilers if you want them: He makes 2 techniques, one is a karma based technique that extracts promissory notes from people, the other is (I'm translating this according to the words DB have used) an 'exalted paragon art' based off the paramita bridge. There is no 100th location, the pavilion is a storage room that reveals itself to give him a reward because he made an 'exalted paragon art' (he then cons the pavilion).

jwang
Mar 31, 2013
Truly, Meng Hao is the epitome of Chinese spirit, as he gets to the root of every Chinese methodology: scams and cons. Truly the One True Dao.

ConanThe3rd
Mar 27, 2009

BlitzBlast posted:

Personally, I felt that by the point the translations dropped off the story had kind of gotten silly.

Did it get any better with the introduction of a) The Gamelon and b) The Guns? Because the anime did that story no favors and bored me half to death.

Studio Arms should not quit its day job of animating smut

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I've not seen the anime, but I looked up the episode synopsis, and it seems like it just kind of... dead-ends? It looks like they cram 12 volumes worth of plot into 12 episodes, but since there's 16 volums worth of story it looks like it just kind of stops right after the Kulurtai which is a really weird place to end things.

It still seems like it might be worth watching, though. :v: It looks like Crunchyroll has subbed episodes.

Edit: I've been giving 21st Century Archmage a shot, and while it's kind of a little bland I do really like some of the recurring gags.

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"Wait! Please wait!" I called out to Bumdalf, who had frighteningly raised a staff while wearing a wicked smile. "This went through a safety inspection, right?"

Glowing with a number of opaque colors, this existence that was called a magic circle didn't seem like it had been properly made, considering Aidal's condition.

"Dunno. Some of the magic crystals were made in China so there's no guarantee. Then, here we go! Power up!"

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"Um, Master..."

Before I positioned myself in the middle of the magic circle, I earnestly called my master.

"What?"

Master was picking his nose without knowing my feelings of being dragged to the slaughterhouse. He apathetically answered without even dislodging his finger.

"Th-this one doesn't use Chinese-made crystals, right?"

Chinese-made crystals, which had made me decisively hostile to the magic circle's reliability last time!

"Hyuk, let me ask you one thing."

"Yes?"

Master suddenly asked a question.

"Do you think it's possible to live without Chinese-made goods these days?"

"..."

There was nothing more for me to say.

I went to the middle of the magic circle and sighed deeply as I sat down cross-legged.

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jwang
Mar 31, 2013
Ugh, the MC of Release that witch obviously hasn't done enough science experiments. "I can't show magnetic fields, they're invisible!" Dude, iron fillings! :science:

Bakanogami
Dec 31, 2004


Grimey Drawer
I haven't been much into the web/light novel thing lately, but I stumbled upon Kumo Desu Ga, Nani Ka the other day and wound up binging it for two days straight. Loved it (even if I think it gets weaker after a while), and was wondering if anybody had any similar recommendations?

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
unfortunately the other reincarnated as a monster wn's are all pretty bad

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Serious Frolicking posted:

unfortunately the other reincarnated as a monster wn's are all pretty bad

Truth to this. Slime started off ok, but gets real weird real fast. Re:Monster goes full-throttle rape really loving fast. Dragon Egg is kind of ok for a bit, but suffers from the author writing the protag as either incredibly clever, or mind-numbingly stupid depending on what the plot requires, and it descends into pseudo misery porn eventually. Bones and Vampire (both being translated on Shinsori.com) are kind of ok, they're just really shallow and... I guess fluffy would be the word? They're also both barely translated, maybe two dozen chapters between the two. Shinsori also translated Undead Seeks Warmth which is alright, but not great. I like Demon Girl but it suffers from the same problem as Bones, in that it only has like 9 chapters translated so far.

Your best bet is gonna be Captain Duck's recommendations. I haven't read Cicada, so I can't speak to it, but Goblin Kingdom is pretty alright and so far seems blessedly rape-free.

If you want to consider demon reincarnation the same as monsters, there's a few good options there. We've talked about Dungeon Defense, with it's sociopathic MC before. There's also Reincarnated into Werewolf, which is at 18 chapters so far. It's not a deep story, but it's readable. And my personal recommendation, Yuusha Party, which is drat good. Main character reincarnates as an incredibly overpowered demon lord, but doesn't want to do anything, so he just apathetically swats away the hero party until he falls in love with the party's healer.

And if you really want to stretch, there's always I was a sword when I reincarnated and Reincarnated as a vending machine. They should need no explanation.

Mygna
Sep 12, 2011
Taint is your best bet, imo.

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Feb 16, 2011

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Taint isn't a reincarnation novel, though.

Edit: In other news, I appear to have been reincarnated as a love interest in an otome game is starting to git gud. The story kicked off pretty basic, prince realizes he's a reincarnated person inside a dating game, and he actually kind of hates the heroine and is in love with the bad guy, his fiance. He resolves to not let the heroine steal him away. Then poo poo gets real, and it turns out the game actually had spinoffs, and they're all kind of blending together. Including one where everyone is gay. Now the psycho dude that everyone is scared of has revealed he wants a taste of that sweet prince rear end. :v:

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Mygna
Sep 12, 2011

Captain Bravo posted:

Taint isn't a reincarnation novel, though.

Well, she does technically die and wakes up as a monster, just in her own modified body (not spoilering this, because it happens early enough to be mentioned in the official synopsis). But it's really more the tone of her internal monologues, and generally being about a girl turning into an antisocial, overpowered murderhobo, that's very similar to Kumo.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
kumoko has a lot of disparate parts which come together well. there is the monster thing, the rpg stuff, kumoko's endearingly insane personality, the mysterious setting that was very slowly revealed, and finally the overarching plot about the end of the world. most of the imitators just take the first two and then add in a bunch of creepy poo poo they are into.

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer
ISSTH can't update fast enough.

SerSpook
Feb 13, 2012




Never change Meng Hao. Never change.

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drat it, I'm really frustrated. I was not aware of the fact that Maoyu is actually a currently-running series, and not in fact a completed one. Turns out there are only 16 volumes so far, and so after purchasing the last two on Bookwalker I got manga blueballs. It's the climax of the series, and I wanna finish it drat it! :argh:

Cynic Jester
Apr 11, 2009

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Twinkling like the night sky

SerSpook posted:

Never change Meng Hao. Never change.

Klepto Meng is the best.

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I found an adorable little one-shot short story called It's because you said there would be candy. The author is listed as "Yuuki-san to" and I can't seem to find anything else by them on Novel Updates, have they written anything else?

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Captain Bravo posted:

Taint isn't a reincarnation novel, though.

Edit: In other news, I appear to have been reincarnated as a love interest in an otome game is starting to git gud. The story kicked off pretty basic, prince realizes he's a reincarnated person inside a dating game, and he actually kind of hates the heroine and is in love with the bad guy, his fiance. He resolves to not let the heroine steal him away. Then poo poo gets real, and it turns out the game actually had spinoffs, and they're all kind of blending together. Including one where everyone is gay. Now the psycho dude that everyone is scared of has revealed he wants a taste of that sweet prince rear end. :v:

I like how this portrays the heroine as this dense girl that is ruining the families of all the men she "captures."

darkgray
Dec 20, 2005

My best pose facing the morning sun!

Captain Bravo posted:

I found an adorable little one-shot short story called It's because you said there would be candy. The author is listed as "Yuuki-san to" and I can't seem to find anything else by them on Novel Updates, have they written anything else?

The author has thirteen titles listed on Narou, so a bunch of other things, yep. Mostly short stories, though.

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darkgray posted:

The author has thirteen titles listed on Narou, so a bunch of other things, yep. Mostly short stories, though.

While I thank you for the information, I was angling towards someone linking me to finished translations, lol. :negative:

Edit: Gonna give a shout-out here for a series I would never have expected to actually like, How to Kill Reincarnators from Earth. The description on NovelUpdates does not do it justice, it's basically a straight-up send-up of reincarnated harem novels. It's clever, it's fun, and despite being a pervert the main character isn't nearly as annoying as most MC's. Plus the translation is pretty drat good.

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“But um … I really have to go …”

“No, you’ll be alright. No matter how late you go home I’m sure your parents will understand. Because there’s nothing more important in this world than Lady Quira’s teachings. Curfews are a trifle matter”

I tried to leave but Miria pulled my arm back.

… oh poo poo, this chick’s cray-cray.

I highly recommend giving it a shot. The hooks don't take long, the story reveals its cards within the first few chapters so it doesn't take long to figure out if you're going to like it or not.

Edit: Let me revise that, the translation is goddamned fantastic. If not for the fact that NovelUpdates explicitly says it is translated from Japanese I would think this is a completely english novel.

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” … you know the thing is, Motoki, I made light of you, I thought you won’t be able to go all the way with another woman since you’re a chicken, wahahaha. Something like that. Then you went ahead and gave Ruby a tumble or three. Now you’re starting to lay your hands on the next girl and so I thought, crap, isn’t this going to be the one where the first girl, that’s me, gets hosed and chucked away? So you see, I thought, maaaybe I should give you a bit of a freebie”

Edit again: Oh my god I love this story.

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Well, there’s no use trying to smooth things over so I wrote them down as-is.

[Stole the reincarnator Yuutarou’s harem member Ruby and had wanton sex. Meanwhile also had sex with fellow traveler Liu. Incidentally, no intent to go steady with either. Planning to treat them as sex friends]

Rania saw the paper I wrote my exploits on and her face cramped.

“… y’know, even though Lady Euva’s that kind of goddess there’s no way she’s gonna get these sorts of exploits appro… — WHOAH SHE TOTALLY APPROVED!?”

The moment Rania lit the paper up, golden particles danced around it.

The golden particles revolved around my head.

Even though I wasn’t a priest, I knew the goddess was happy.

I vaguely sensed the image of the goddess raising her thumb at me saying “Good job, you, really good job”

Even more edit: Guys, seriously, it's really good

quote:

I know, if it’s all right with you why don’t we talk about what your dreams are? Since I’m an old person I like talking about dreams”

“In that case,” Kirisha cheerfully began talking.

“Kirisha will one day, become an adventurer and go to ‘Fahra Valley’ nodesu. Then Kirisha will tame the giant dragons at the bottom of the valley nodesu! Kirisha will be the first ever Dragon Tamer desuyo!”

“Ooh, amazing! Having dreams is good!”

“Then when Kirisha gets a dragon Kirisha will start a safe and comfortable high speed transport business! Kirisha will use it to gather capital and this time get involved in the spice trade, and Kirisha will turn over the company headship at the young age of 40 and retire early nodesu! Secure stocks ahead of time and set up a cloistered rule desuyo!”

“That’s realistic …”

“Kirisha’s assets will of course be in the form of non-depreciating ores!”

“Really realistic …”

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Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

One thing I find funny about the "reincarnated into an otome game" stories is that otome games have drawn characters yet the protagonists are supposedly from the real world, so basically they're not only reincarnated into an alternate world, but an alternate 2D world (or else it wouldn't make sense for them to recognize the characters). It's especially jarring when the characters rarely seem to care about people having blue/pink/etc hair (though it is sometimes mentioned; I think Ascendance of a Bookworm comments on it).

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
they are in a different world which is identical to dumb japanese dating sims. in other words, people who design dating sims are extradimensional prophets.

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I'm just going to keep posting quotes from How to Kill... because they're so good ya'll.

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“I’ll come over to you now, Sir Ron …!”

Illya had made up her mind.
She would jump into the water that took Ron’s life.

However —

“Uuh … I … can’t die today, either …”

Illya couldn’t die.
Not because she hesitated.

It was because she didn’t have the arm strength to lift herself up over the railings.

Today was her fourth try, but it seems she still failed.
She properly exercised herself but her arm muscles were still not adequate.

“God … why are you so cruel desuno … are you telling me to stay alive … here in this world without Sir Ron …”

Shifting the blame on her own lack of strength to god, Illya sighed. She’s at that age where she’d blame anything and everything on god.

She could simply jump down from where there’s no railing, but she felt like she’d be running from the difficulty then. Illya was a suicide applicant with a high self-consciousness.

“I have to go home and do some more push-ups …”

Also, get some protein intake

booksnake
May 4, 2009

we who are crowned with the crest of wisdom

Captain Bravo posted:

I'm just going to keep posting quotes from How to Kill... because they're so good ya'll.
Gave it a shot.

The translation's good, agreed, but the pervert side of the weird conman-cheerleader premise keeps breaking my immersion

dipple
Oct 22, 2008

Captain Bravo posted:

I'm just going to keep posting quotes from How to Kill... because they're so good ya'll.

your quotes seem to have skipped the part where he's an unrepentant rapist child molester.

Cynic Jester
Apr 11, 2009

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dipple posted:

your quotes seem to have skipped the part where he's an unrepentant rapist child molester.

Hey, at least

A jargogle
Feb 22, 2011
Oh my god Meng Hao is the best (This is the only appropriate reaction to the latest chapter)

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Feb 16, 2011

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dipple posted:

your quotes seem to have skipped the part where he's an unrepentant rapist child molester.

I had not yet gotten to the lolicon chapters, which were very much a disappointment. I was kind of hoping the story would have him pawn the little girl off on her fiancee, but... :negative:

The Lord of Hats
Aug 22, 2010

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You know, as much as Xu Qing isn't an interesting character to me, I can really appreciate that Meng Hao is faithfully married and that children basically never show up in ISSTH, so I can enjoy my protagonist risk-free.

Well, okay, I say he's faithfully married, but I have to admit that he'll always have time on the side for his other true love, money. I love that his biggest regret right now is that he wasn't able to steal building supplies from the pavilion.

Paracelsus
Apr 6, 2009

bless this post ~kya
When was the last time he actually needed to spend money? When he purchased the chariot/destabilized the local economy?

Avulsion
Feb 12, 2006
I never knew what hit me

Paracelsus posted:

When was the last time he actually needed to spend money? When he purchased the chariot/destabilized the local economy?

As long as he has the copper mirror he will always need more money.

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Paracelsus
Apr 6, 2009

bless this post ~kya

Avulsion posted:

As long as he has the copper mirror he will always need more money.

Seems like it's been a while since he did any duplicating either.

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