oystertoadfish posted:

i totally forgot that Tennessee had their primaries on Thursday of all days. dejarlais, the gop doctor who had affairs with his patients, smoked weed with them, and pressured one to get an abortion, managed to get another opponent who refused to attack him on any of that poo poo and is going to easily win in November. politics is really gross

edit: it'd be a lot less gross if he campaigned and legislated in favor of drug use, abortions, and the breakdown of the family structure, but he actually doesn't, believe it or not

FAUXTON posted:

I stand corrected, then. I've never worked for Publix (despite having grown up in FL) but I have family who have. Heck, my sister is one of the staff teaching chefs at one of their Aprons schools down there. She likes it enough but I have no idea what her pay is like or how their internal culture operates. She's able to live relatively comfortably in the bay area so it can't be awful.

E: those sandwiches though. Boar's Head for life.

thethreeman posted:

yikes

any primaries you think'll be interesting this week other than WI-1 (for the alt right tears)?

oystertoadfish posted:

VT-Gov is kinda interesting because people think three-time lieutenant governor republican phil scott could win but some rich guy bruce lisman is running to his right (but still moderate by national republican standards), while the democratic candidates don't have scott's resume and are engaged in a weird fight about whether towns should get a NIMBY veto on wind farms or something. sue minter is the least left-wing democrat running and stronger lefter candidate matt dunne might have his voting base split by diplomat peter galbraith. so again its an establishment strength test on the gop side, while you've got a similar question complicated by the spoiler candidate on the democratic side. oh also bill spaceman lee of the red sox is running as an independent

oystertoadfish posted:

looks like there are a few mildly interesting things going on tomorrow

http://rrhelections.com/index.php/2016/08/06/august-9-primary-preview-vt-wi-mn-ct/
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/8/8/1557113/-August-9-primary-preview-Disaster-nominee-awaits-GOP-in-suburban-Minnesota-swing-seat

WI-01 is worth watching because it's paul ryan but if nehlen won it would be the biggest polling failure of the year basically. although house polling is sparse and less reliable, i think. so whatever

in WI-08, where green bay is, democrats think they can take a 51-48 romney open seat (republican reid ribble retired, leaving an open seat) with a guy who apparently has 2018 governor potential, tom nelson. republicans think mike gallagher is the better general election prospect but frank lasee is antiestablishment and apparently viewed as a weak candidate, so i guess democrats will want lasee to win, and if he did it'd be a lil victory for the antiestablishment establishment in the gop civil war

VT-Gov is kinda interesting because people think three-time lieutenant governor republican phil scott could win but some rich guy bruce lisman is running to his right (but still moderate by national republican standards), while the democratic candidates don't have scott's resume and are engaged in a weird fight about whether towns should get a NIMBY veto on wind farms or something. sue minter is the least left-wing democrat running and stronger lefter candidate matt dunne might have his voting base split by diplomat peter galbraith. so again its an establishment strength test on the gop side, while you've got a similar question complicated by the spoiler candidate on the democratic side. oh also bill spaceman lee of the red sox is running as an independent

the gop site i linked above thinks some guy named david zuckerman who's running for VT-LG is just as progressive as all heck so i guess it might be funny/a good test of the bernie revolution or w/e if he won the primary and went on to win the general election, which i guess could be a question if a republican wins the governor's race

the other thing going on that anybody seems to care about is MN-02, a 49.1 obama - 49.0 romney suburban district where a gop incumbent is retiring, leaving an open seat democrats think angie craig, who i don't think invented either craigs or angie's list, can win. apparently there's a 'convention endorsement' before the primary that supposedly is important to voters, and john kline got that on the gop side. this is bad for them because he's a radio talk show person and probably would be a weak candidate with easy attack ads going against him. a businesslady named darlene miller is the establishment and the outgoing rep's candidate so this is another establishment-antiestablishment battle

connecticut apparently is also gonna have primaries. the gop site above says "Owing to the state’s convention system, which serves as a gatekeeper to the primary ballot, Connecticut doesn’t have any major primaries" which sounds delightfully anti-democratic

so congressionally, there are a few gop civil war battles aside from paul-nehlen and looking at the combined record and who may have outperformed might be more interesting and instructive than the WI-01 result in the end. or it might just be boring, this is congress we're talking about

on a state level, the vt ones are kind of interesting because they tell us something about one of the more unique states politically and because maybe they have some relevance to the democratic civil war, if we can call it that,. civil disagreement haw haw

thethreeman posted:

Didn't reply yet, so - this is really helpful, thanks for posting

Minter out in front early. Looking at the big Burlington districts and wondering - has Bernie endorsed? Assume no given the split

thethreeman posted:

Didn't reply yet, so - this is really helpful, thanks for posting

Minter out in front early. Looking at the big Burlington districts and wondering - has Bernie endorsed? Assume no given the split

Joementum posted:

Bill "Spaceman" Lee's platform is: free weed, single payer healthcare, seizure of all federal highways, and letting steroid users into the baseball hall of fame.

In a normal year I'd vote for that all day, but the Democrats are abnormally weak because everyone assumed Speaker of the House Shap Smith (yes, that's really his name) was going to run, but then his wife was diagnosed with cancer and he dropped out. Happily, her cancer was cured, but by the time she'd recovered Minter and Dunne had already jumped into the race, so Smith is running for Lt. Gov instead.

axeil posted:

caveat that it's an internal leak, but Evan Bayh is up 26 points in IN-SEN.

https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/763104351997001729

Joementum posted:

Adding some of the unofficial results from the Champlain Valley to the stuff the AP's already posted, Minter's going to win this race and Galbraith won't even have been a spoiler.

Phil Scott's going to easily win his primary too.

The surprise of the night looks to be the Dem. Lt. Gov. race with Zuckerman and Smith neck-and-neck. Bernie endorsed Zuckerman, who's also the VT Progressive party's nominee for the post. Smith isn't a controversial figure in state politics, but was blamed for holding up and then killing the weed bill in the House. Zuckerman campaigned on the issue.

Joementum posted:

Norm was suspended from the legislature earlier this year because he's facing a rape charge in court. Not looking good for him tonight, but still 12 precincts left!

Gorilla Desperado posted:

Is that the guy Maddow spent some time on due to the rape case? If so, good riddance.

Epic High Five posted:

Bayh has name recognition as a not tremendous, hated fuckup whereas everybody currently in power is tied to Pence, who is a tremendous, hated fuckup.

That said it seems like a lot. Who has that Bayh cartoon edit where he's surfing out of a biplane?

FlamingLiberal posted:

The X-man cometh posted:

Isn't Vermont small enough that you and 3 neighbors could make it a campaign issue?

Cliff Racer posted:

No one seems to be mentioning Minnesota, the unelectable "outsider" looks like he's won there, so the seat should flip in November.

oystertoadfish posted:

looking at the ap results page by county it seems like lewis, the radio show guy, is doing strongest in the part of the district closest to the twin cities, taking 56% in scott with 100% reporting, 54% in almost all of washington, and 50% with ~20% reporting in dakota

his opponents are splitting the southeastern part of the district's vote, 34-36 in half of wabasha's in-district precincts, 45-22 in most of goodhue's, and i think there're more votes where lewis is winning anyway

and while i was typing this the check mark appeared. probably the congressional prognosticators will shift that one a category or two

axeil posted:

What's the deal with this unelectable outsider guy?

quote:

I never thought in my lifetime where’d you have so many single, or I should say, yeah single women who would vote on the issue of somebody else buying their diaphragm. This is a country in crisis. Those women are ignorant in, I mean, the most generic way. I don’t mean that to be a pejorative. They are simply ignorant of the important issues in life. Somebody’s got to educate them. [Audio here]

There's something about young, single women where they’re behaving like Stepford wives. They walk in lock step – is that really the most important thing to a 25-year old unmarried woman – uh getting me to pay for her pills? Seriously?! Is that what we’ve been reduced to? You can be bought off for that? [Audio here]

You’ve got a vast majority of young single women who couldn’t explain to you what GDP means. You know what they care about? They care about abortion. They care about abortion and gay marriage. They care about 'The View.' They are non-thinking. [Audio here]

quote:

'a bunch of whiners down there - they don't think we did too little, in katrina, they think people did not help themselves', 'the average kentuckian says 'we did plenty, it was their fault''

quote:

In his book, "Power Divided is Power Checked: The Argument for States' Rights" Lewis also wrote that President Abraham Lincoln "exploited the issue" of slavery, adding the Civil War, or what Lewis called the "War Between the States," had "more to do with secession" than slavery.

When asked if the Civil War was worth fighting during an interview in 2011 about his book, Lewis did not respond with a clear answer and eventually said it was "kinda hard to say."

...

In his criticism of the court's ruling which legalized same-sex marriage, Lewis questions the federal government's role in defining marriage and also in outlawing slavery:

In fact, if you really want to be quite frank about it, how does somebody else owning a slave affect me? It doesn’t. If I don’t think it is right, I won’t own one, and people always say ‘well if you don’t want to marry somebody of the same sex, you don’t have to, but why tell somebody else they can’t. Uh, you know if you don’t want to own a slave, don’t. But don’t tell other people they can’t.

Joementum posted:

Bill "Spaceman" Lee's platform is: free weed, single payer healthcare, seizure of all federal highways, and letting steroid users into the baseball hall of fame.

axeil posted:

What's the deal with this unelectable outsider guy?

DivineCoffeeBinge posted:

He also wants (wanted?) baseball to return to Montreal, though I have no idea how Vermont is supposed to make that happen.

quote:

Uh, you know if you don’t want to own a slave, don’t. But don’t tell other people they can’t.