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smell this posted:Skyward Sword was pretty good. Skyward Sword was a obvious mix of a good number of really great concepts and ideas that were then rapidly smashed together to make a somewhat cohesive game without anyone understanding that it was a lot of near identical poo poo that was not fun. Everyone loved the massive as gently caress ocean with tons of interesting diversions in WW, but then when they make a massive as gently caress sky to explore there is less then 1/10 of the same optional content to explore.
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Skyward Sword's biggest sin is you can't name your bird. You're supposed to have this really deep special bond with your bird and it doesn't even have a name. I called mine Kazooie.
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Silver Falcon posted:Skyward Sword's biggest sin is you can't name your bird. Not only can you not name your bird. It doesn't even have a name. Oops. I can't read. For all its flaws, I like Skyward Sword and its motion controls. Which, from what I've heard, IS its biggest flaw. So if you can like that, you have a great game, apparently. Is there anything else people didn't like about Skyward Sword? Besides Fi, of course.
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Silver Falcon posted:Skyward Sword's biggest sin is you can't name your bird. A real deep bond, more special than any other... that is completely irrelevant past the first hour of the game.
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Aug 8, 2016 13:02
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Name the horse "my pussy" lololololol jk.
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Theta Zero posted:For all its flaws, I like Skyward Sword and its motion controls. Which, from what I've heard, IS its biggest flaw. So if you can like that, you have a great game, apparently. Is there anything else people didn't like about Skyward Sword? Besides Fi, of course. I disliked that lack of exploration in the game. The best part of a Zelda title is running around an enormous world looking for treasures and running into puzzles and secrets. In Skyward Sword there were really only three areas that you simply returned to each time. In addition, you were directed to those areas at specific times. I prefer a big Hyrule field connected to a bunch of different locations, most of which you can visit in some capacity within the first couple of hours.
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Rexroom posted:I think the day-night cycle in the game has more to do with it. Huh. Okay, fair enough I guess. I kept forgetting that was a thing since it only ever affected the overworld and only seemed to matter when wanting to go to the malomart.
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"You found a monster horn, now hold A to speed up this text and then hit A again so we can load your inventory screen where you have to hit 1 to Exit" Save game. Log out. "You found a monster horn, now hold A to speed up this text and then hit A again so we can load your inventory screen where you have to hit 1 to Exit" Fuuuuuuuck. Keep playing. "You found a monster horn, now hold A to speed up this text and then hit A again so we can load your inventory screen where you have to hit 1 to Exit" "You found a monster horn, now hold A to speed up this text and then hit A again so we can load your inventory screen where you have to hit 1 to Exit" "You found a monster horn, now hold A to speed up this text and then hit A again so we can load your inventory screen where you have to hit 1 to Exit" "You found a monster horn, now hold A to speed up this text and then hit A again so we can load your inventory screen where you have to hit 1 to Exit" The game was not QA'd. These aren't bugs, but they are awful QoL things that should have never made it into the final game. Fi is super annoying, too...but not as bad as the repetition. And the controls are not intuitive. They are forced. Oh, you are running around just fine using the analog stick? TOO BAD! NOW YOU HAVE TO USE THE loving WIIMOTE FOR NO REASON.
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Aug 8, 2016 17:52
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I prefer SS to TP but I also played SS with a ton of QOL enhancements turned on via Ocarina, like instant text display and disabling the majority of Fi's interactions with the player outside of cutscenes.
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Aug 8, 2016 18:02
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Nate RFB posted:I prefer SS to TP but I also played SS with a ton of QOL enhancements turned on via Ocarina, like instant text display and disabling the majority of Fi's interactions with the player outside of cutscenes. Did you also have motion controls off?
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Aug 8, 2016 18:04
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I didn't really mind the motion controls, though I did have to get in the habit of re-calibrating them frequently. I'd take them over the halfassed attempt used in TP Wii at any rate.
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A lot of people don't have issues with the motion controls. It's just that everyone has that moment of why the poo poo isn't this working when you first play the game, and the game doesn't actually help you understand what you're doing wrong. So when you get people who don't figure out that they're the ones loving up, or can't figure out how they're loving it up, the motion controls get played up to a huge degree. The point is though, they are completely justified in bitching about it do to the lack of feedback from the game. They are also completely wrong. Edit: well ok, not completely. The controls were still hosed to a degree. Thankfully this was fixed in the zelda minigame in that one game that launched with the wiiU. It worked perfectly, and I was kinda hoping the next game would have motion controls using the updated mechanics.
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Someone upthread said skyward sword is "Love it or hate it" and I feel like that's completely unfair to a mediocre game, that was at least redeemed by the Groose.
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It had really good dungeon design, and vey well done boss fights except for that one you keep repeating pointlessly. The overworld design, for what little zones there were, were also pretty cool and fun. Though they were essentially mini pre-dungeon , which while was cool kinda kills the total exploration ala ocarina of time. There was still a lot wrong with it. The sky could have been made to be so much more, like windwaker and it's ocean. You found a blue rupee, this is worth 5 rupees! The bird controls were a neat little gimmic, that ultimately kinda sucked and had no real use at all. Fi was horrible. You found a blue rupee, this is worth 5 rupees! The sword controls were very trickey, and if you were too close to the sensor it would constantly think your cursor was pulled off screen. Not to mention that having to reset your wiimote kinda shows how early on the sword controls were, and nintendo should have spent more time trying to fix it like they managed to in that one wiiU minigame collection thing. You found a blue rupee, this is worth 5 rupees! I wouldn't call it mediocre, its meat was in the dungeons and it had the best ones out of the entire series in my opinion. There's just so much still wrong with it though. Still totally worth playing, don't let the nay sayers shoo you away from it.
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Beginning to think I'm the only fucker that liked Fi. Really liked Skyward Sword but it's still the "worst" of the 3D Zeldas in my opinion...or maybe tied with Twilight Princess. I think they're all good games so it's really splitting hairs in my eyes, but the criticisms are all accurate. The overworld for SS sucks and is super limiting, but the dungeons were pretty great and the boss fights were fun. Never had problems with the motion controls myself, hell I finished the last boss off without a shield. Sort of hoping BotW is taking notes from SS when it comes to dungeons and bosses (save for Demise ad nauseam), couple that with what we've already seen from the new overworld and I can see this easily being the best 3D Zelda game.
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Aug 9, 2016 14:42
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I think Fi's worst was when she doing tutorials and interrupting you. Otherwise she's pretty cool.
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It took me too long to realize that SS's lovely controls were made worse not by how I was swinging the remote but because I was playing in a room with bay windows and the light was coming in and interfering with the sensor. I got really good at killing things with everything but the sword and I wish you got the bow far sooner than you do in SS.
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Golden Goat posted:I think Fi's worst was when she doing tutorials and interrupting you. Otherwise she's pretty cool. Giving away puzzles even in cool late-game dungeons "hey look up THERE, nerd!" and constantly interrupting the action is annoying. It should have just been "Hey! Listen!" 2.0 and press this button if you want to call Fi out of the sword. Fi as a character was fine.
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Aug 9, 2016 15:25
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Skyward Sword was barely even a Zelda game and it was still better than loving Twilight Princess.
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Mandrel posted:Skyward Sword was barely even a Zelda game and it was still better than loving Twilight Princess. I don't understand how it can be barely a Zelda but better than the best 3d Zelda game.
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Aug 9, 2016 15:57
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Trent posted:Fi as a character was fine. Fi had a character?
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Aug 9, 2016 16:00
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All Zelda games (except the CD-i abominations) are good to amazing. Fi the character is cool. Fi the Navi is not.
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Aug 9, 2016 16:14
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Midna is featured in an amiibo. Fi is not. QED.
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Aug 9, 2016 16:16
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The Amiibo is literally the only good thing to come out of Twilight Princess. (Just kidding, the arbiter grounds and yeti mansion were dope, but nothing else)
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Aug 9, 2016 16:22
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Rexroom posted:Midna is featured in an amiibo. Fi is not. QED. No one, no one, was saying Fi was better than Midna. I might by a Navi amiibo though.
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RBA Starblade posted:It took me too long to realize that SS's lovely controls were made worse not by how I was swinging the remote but because I was playing in a room with bay windows and the light was coming in and interfering with the sensor. Skyward Sword doesn't use the sensor bar, just the gyros.
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greatn posted:Skyward Sword doesn't use the sensor bar, just the gyros. Oh, I guess it was confirmation bias then.
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I thought it uses the sensor bar when aiming weapons In other news, Carbon dioxide posted:This is the only Nintendo-related thread in Games that I got bookmarked, so I'll post this here. Feel free to spread the news. Welp, Nintendo DMCA'd them and it was taken offline. Only a few days after they DMCA'd the Metroid fangame.
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RBA Starblade posted:Oh, I guess it was confirmation bias then. No, you're right. Skyward Sword uses the sensor bar to calibrate wiimotion plus on the fly, so sunlight could definitely affect your calibration. The controls made a lot more sense to me once I realized that I should actually be using the sensor bar as a neutral point. Of course, you can play without the sensor bar past initial calibration but you're going to eventually need to recalibrate. So it's best to point the controller at the sensor bar anyway.
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Aug 9, 2016 17:09
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Playing through the TP remake, I've found out that I do not like midna.
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Aug 9, 2016 23:31
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She improves after the sex scene
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greatn posted:She improves after the sex scene But enough about your tumblr
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She's cool but not really that interesting. She just stands out from everyone else being nothing.
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I can't beat the big goron guy in Death Mountain. I put the iron boots on as he charges at me, i press A to grab when it says "Grab", and yet i still get knocked into the lava. Am I missing something?
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BillmasterCozb posted:I can't beat the big goron guy in Death Mountain. I put the iron boots on as he charges at me, i press A to grab when it says "Grab", and yet i still get knocked into the lava. Am I missing something? I believe you need to be standing on a magnetized section.
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BillmasterCozb posted:I can't beat the big goron guy in Death Mountain. I put the iron boots on as he charges at me, i press A to grab when it says "Grab", and yet i still get knocked into the lava. Am I missing something? Are you just pressing or are you holding A? It's kind of the same principle as goat wrangling. Edit: Wait, which Goron guy? the mid-boss Goron with the iron plating or the boss-boss?
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 Oh, I wasn't aware of my surroundings..Problem solved, then, thank youZuzie posted:Are you just pressing or are you holding A? It's kind of the same principle as goat wrangling. The mid-boss, and yeah I was holding A
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Don't you need to hold up on the thumbstick as well?
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Rexroom posted:Midna is featured in an amiibo. Fi is not. QED. Actually, she's featured in the Link amiibo.
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I know I'm obviously late to the party on this, but I just started playing Link to the Past, anything I should know?
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