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Instant Sunrise posted:because this: well neither is the n64 pad, but the point is "analog sticks" is not an innovation. been around since the 80s. its more like a cross between the snes and mega drive pads, taking the shape of MD pads and extending it out with th ebutton layout of a snes pad. fact is tho before the dualshock console controllers were a lot less standard than now and beyond the four button layout (which itself was from arcade titles anyway) modern pads are mainly derived from the dualshock or the saturn/dreamcast pad. probably the biggest nintendo impact is the addition of shoulder buttons. other than that... theyre poo poo bad lol
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Stux posted:well neither is the n64 pad, but the point is "analog sticks" is not an innovation. been around since the 80s. There are so many weird stand-alone arcade cabinets and third party controllers out there (especially for PC) I think you could make this argument for just about anything except the earliest arcade games. In my mind the innovation was Nintendo being the first to decide that analog would be the primary control method for their console and making it successful in a much larger market.
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BattleHamster posted:There are so many weird stand-alone arcade cabinets and third party controllers out there (especially for PC) I think you could make this argument for just about anything except the earliest arcade games. they didnt do that tho, that was the dual shock. the n64 style analog stick was not adopted and out of the two consoles the one that made a market impact was undeniably the ps1 over the n64. we're talking a console that sold 30 million vs one that sold 100 million. the n64 analog stick is resigned to the same place as those "weird stand-alone cabinets and 3rd party controllers" as a failed implementation of an idea then made popular by another company. even their own controlelrs now use analog sticks fashioned after the dual shock etc rather than the n64.
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now you're just splitting hairs. the n64 was the first console to:
the dual stick layout from the psx dual analog/dual shock was picked up i don't deny that, but the n64 was the first console to standardize on the analog stick as the primary input method.
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s.i.r.e. posted:Nintendoland is the only thing I can think of that did something other than a menu/map/2d-interface on the screen, but that's because it was asymmetrical multiplayer. I'd love some examples where having the gamepad was absolutely necessary and it did something that standard controllers couldn't. The developers surely didn't see the need for it. Still waiting on some examples of this.
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Everyone knows the PlayStations are great, Stux, PS1 & PS2 are the two best-selling home consoles ever.
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Instant Sunrise posted:now you're just splitting hairs. the n64 was the first console to: if the analog stick was meant to be the primary input method why is it stuck on a middle prong in a less comfortable postion than the regular side by side design which is where the dpad lives? it became the primary input method but it wasnt designed around it. thats why its on a third prong instead of by the dpad in the first place, so it wouldnt get in the way. its literally a snes pad in shape with extended handles, and a new one put in the middle for an alternate control scheme which accidentally became the main one. also the stick is digital
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also the 5200 had an analog stick as its primary control way before anything else lol
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Ugh, why is this poo poo in the NINTENDO NX thread?
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Nierbo posted:Ugh, why is this poo poo in the NINTENDO NX thread? cause its august
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s.i.r.e. posted:Still waiting on some examples of this. I mean let's be real, Mario Maker would be trash on a regular controller
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Kashuno posted:I mean let's be real, Mario Maker would be trash on a regular controller well yeah something thats trash in general would also be trash still even if u changed the controller
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Gorgolflox posted:Why the gently caress would Sony release another Vita? It'll play your digital PS3 games and everyone will get one
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Nierbo posted:Ugh, why is this poo poo in the NINTENDO NX thread? because there's been next to no new information about the nx beyond the reports that it's going to use some kind of tegra soc, and because there's no catch-all nintendo thread in games anymore. Instant Sunrise fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Aug 10, 2016 |
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Stux posted:well yeah something thats trash in general would also be trash still even if u changed the controller if you dont like good games you could have just said that at the start of this
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Stux posted:well yeah something thats trash in general would also be trash still even if u changed the controller whoa there don't cut yourself on the edginess
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Dr Cheeto posted:NX thread is dead
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BillmasterCozb posted:if you dont like good games you could have just said that at the start of this i frickin love mario but mario maker is poo poo and bad and a cash in and its poo poo. thanks. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Kashuno posted:I mean let's be real, Mario Maker would be trash on a regular controller It would still be 100% doable, considering you're not "playing" anything when you're using the screen, just making the levels. This really isn't the best example.
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Jonas Albrecht posted:Its almost like responding to the Sony gremlin that haunts Games is a bad idea. u r talking 2 a vet of the old "ps3 is bad and brown" threads. do not label me with ur slander.
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Stux posted:u r talking 2 a vet of the old "ps3 is bad and brown" threads. do not label me with ur slander. lol it was reallly fricking brown
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s.i.r.e. posted:It would still be 100% doable, considering you're not "playing" anything when you're using the screen, just making the levels. This really isn't the best example. making the levels is a pretty essential part of Mario maker I think
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Real hurthling! posted:lol it was reallly fricking brown i remember motorstorm... these plebs think they can step 2 me?? Raserys posted:making the levels is a pretty essential part of Mario maker I think theyre saying u could do that without the big tablet pad, specifically. its not impossible without it or even particularly hard.
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This thread is about pockets what the gently caress are you people doing?
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PBS Newshour posted:This thread is about pockets what the gently caress are you people doing?
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Stux posted:u r talking 2 a vet of the old "ps3 is bad and brown" threads. do not label me with ur slander. It's only slander if its not true.
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PBS Newshour posted:This thread is about pockets what the gently caress are you people doing? whatever that persons name was post the pockets Jonas Albrecht posted:It's only slander if its not true. its not my fualt the only company being competent this gen is the one that was hosed at the start of last gen and the two that did well then are now losing their minds.
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They called the seventh Nintendo console the NX. They called ten jagoffs in Mass Effect N7. Wires crossed or Stux ghostwriting. Can't believe the ram tho.
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NX gonna give it to ya was a better title
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Square NX
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i still think "NintendoGO" is unironically going to be the console's name and I'd be fine with it e: Or maybe even NintenGO
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It won't. It shouldn't. If you have it on the go they should just tether it to your phone.
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Instant Sunrise posted:Over-under on the NX having a SIM card slot? under, though if they do adding an nx to my plan better be a fuckin tmobile tuesday
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