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SubponticatePoster posted:Counterpoint: Each Republican nominee has been worse than the last I mean, and don't get me wrong I was massively opposed to those candidates then and I remain so now, but I never felt that they couldn't execute the requirements of the office. I never worried that a President John McCain couldn't meet with foreign dignitaries without causing an international incident, or a President Romney calling other heads of state names. Like I reject a Trump candidacy based on fitness of office, I don't even have to get to policy differences. He's causing international incidents just through campaign rhetoric already.
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Grouchio posted:Representing and present. N-scale or HO-Scale?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I'd be a little cautious about that. It's a report from a guy who said "Trump will ruin us all. Listen to me!" citing a guy who says "Trump will ruin us all! Listen to me." The point is that people who are staunch Republicans who won't vote Hillary but can't stand trump are getting demoralized and won't turn out. Yeah they would vote for the downticket but who wants to come home from work Tuesday and waste time throwing their vote away on Johnson just to vote for representative so and so?
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In my experience Republican voters tend to take voting a lot more seriously because it's tied up in their appropriated patriotic messaging ("vote, it's your civic duty," etc), but since Trump is running on a platform of "everything is broken and nothing matters" then it might be spreading apathy to a higher degree than usual.
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BitcoinRockefeller posted:The point is that people who are staunch Republicans who won't vote Hillary but can't stand trump are getting demoralized and won't turn out. Yeah they would vote for the downticket but who wants to come home from work Tuesday and waste time throwing their vote away on Johnson just to vote for representative so and so? The thing is, we don't know how those people will behave at all. If the house were just being determined by the presidential vote, we'd see the House flip to the Democrats. How much Trump affects those races is still to be seen, though.
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I mean it seems like a funny slam but really what are 99.whatever% of people going to offer besides that 
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Ciaphas posted:I mean it seems like a funny slam but really what are 99.whatever% of people going to offer besides that Isn't Trump supposed to be one of the 1%?
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Mr Interweb posted:Romney made a birther joke, though. Dude was an absolute shitbag. Romney is a shitbag for the Benghazi press conference alone, but he was still more sane than McCain and especially Trump.
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Ciaphas posted:I mean it seems like a funny slam but really what are 99.whatever% of people going to offer besides that Trump is known to lie about donating to charities and generally not paying people who he owes money. 
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Isn't Trump supposed to be one of the 1%? He wishes really hard.
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Sigh https://twitter.com/danmericaCNN/status/763459152953901057 edit: though I guess it was an animal rights protestor
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Mr Interweb posted:Romney made a birther joke, though. Dude was an absolute shitbag.  Every time I think McCain was worse I think of this image and say 'No, gently caress Romney forever". McCain was a warhawk who made some hosed up bad campaign decisions, but Romney could out-sleaze him any day of the week.
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zoux posted:I remember people in here getting upset at how gerrymandering was going to keep us from retaking the Senate. 
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theblackw0lf posted:Sigh Why do they do this when theres pictures of Uday and Qussay with dead elephants and leopards?
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MariusLecter posted:He wishes really hard. Isn't 1% "only" like 200-300k a year? He's definitely in there.
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2000 McCain is who you're thinking of there. 2008 McCain was a craven shithead who fully embraced the neocon wing of the republican party while also being a massive warhawk who is personally responsible for letting the insane wing of the party have a seat at the table to get more votes. Romney is an out of touch 1% who made some hosed up campaign decisions, notably the one pictured.
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Goatman Sacks posted:Why do they do this when theres pictures of Uday and Qussay with dead elephants and leopards? Cause Trump packs heat
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:Insofar as we drew a line around Wyoming and gave 40 people and 15,000 cows 2 Senators to represent them, it totally is. Contract the Dakotas into one state, same with WY/Montana, and make Puerto Rico and America Samoa full states. American Samoa has a tenth the population of Wyoming.
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Mantis42 posted:Then there are those people who kind of realize that thinks are hosed up and that business and government tend to collude a lot, so they turn to libertarianism as a kind of 'babies first ideology'. Either they stay in a bubble of middle class privilege and are never challenged on the specifics of their beliefs, turning into Penn Jillette style weirdos, or, after getting hosed over by the private sector enough, they either grow out of it or evolve into radical leftists. Jeez, dilute the last 15 years of my life into one paragraph why don't you?
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theblackw0lf posted:Sigh Again? Is there some "Clinton is bad on animal rights" thing I'm not aware of? Or are they just targeting her because they think more left-leaning audiences are more likely to listen, whereas they'd just get beaten up at a Trump rally?
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Ron Jeremy posted:American Samoa has a tenth the population of Wyoming. We are trying to do the 3/5ths compromise right this time.
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Mantis42 posted:Then there are those people who kind of realize that thinks are hosed up and that business and government tend to collude a lot, so they turn to libertarianism as a kind of 'babies first ideology'. Either they stay in a bubble of middle class privilege and are never challenged on the specifics of their beliefs, turning into Penn Jillette style weirdos, or, after getting hosed over by the private sector enough, they either grow out of it or evolve into radical leftists. my life story.txt
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What is this photo from again? The 47% speech?
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Harrow posted:Again? Is there some "Clinton is bad on animal rights" thing I'm not aware of? Or are they just targeting her because they think more left-leaning audiences are more likely to listen, whereas they'd just get beaten up at a Trump rally? PETA is more about exposure than any kind of cohesive, directed or effective activist campaign. They are Dicks Out For Harambe incarnate. Pastrymancy posted:What is this photo from again? The 47% speech? Benghazi
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American Samoa has been so hosed over by lack of representation that they probably deserve to hit a bit above their weight class for a while if they eventually get it.
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Pastrymancy posted:What is this photo from again? The 47% speech? no that's romney talking about benghazi and smirking because he thinks it's the october suprise that will turn things in his favor he's smiling because dead americans help him achieve his goals, you see
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Harrow posted:Again? Is there some "Clinton is bad on animal rights" thing I'm not aware of? Or are they just targeting her because they think more left-leaning audiences are more likely to listen, whereas they'd just get beaten up at a Trump rally? It's probably the same as the Black Lives Matter activists protesting Bernie's speech in Seattle. It's readily available, and easy exposure. The amount of whitesplaining of "Why protest Bernie's rally? He's the best hope for black people!" was hilarious. A Winner is Jew posted:2000 McCain is who you're thinking of there. Maybe... both are bad?? seiferguy fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Aug 10, 2016 |
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Harrow posted:Again? Is there some "Clinton is bad on animal rights" thing I'm not aware of? Or are they just targeting her because they think more left-leaning audiences are more likely to listen, whereas they'd just get beaten up at a Trump rally? They know they won't get punched in the face by attendees at a Clinton rally.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:no that's romney talking about benghazi and smirking because he thinks it's the october suprise that will turn things in his favor I honestly don't think that's what happened, I think he just walks around with a vacant genial smile on his face 24/7 like every Mormon missionary I've ever seen.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:no that's romney talking about benghazi and smirking because he thinks it's the october suprise that will turn things in his favor Charitable take was he was realizing what a mistake it was and smirking out of awkwardness.
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seiferguy posted:Maybe... both are bad?? No argument there, all I'm saying is that 2008 McCain > Romney > 2000 McCain as far as who would win the shithead olympics between them.
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zoux posted:I honestly don't think that's what happened, I think he just walks around with a vacant genial smile on his face 24/7 like every Mormon missionary I've ever seen. maybe so but the photo doesn't help in that half his face is in shadow, ike he's about to walk through that blue curtain onto the set of a daytime soap and start dropping bombs about the protagonist's true parentage
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Mantis42 posted:Then there are those people who kind of realize that thinks are hosed up and that business and government tend to collude a lot, so they turn to libertarianism as a kind of 'babies first ideology'. Either they stay in a bubble of middle class privilege and are never challenged on the specifics of their beliefs, turning into Penn Jillette style weirdos, or, after getting hosed over by the private sector enough, they either grow out of it or evolve into radical leftists. Yeah this describes my fortunately very brief libertarian streak. It falls apart pretty much immediately the moment you realize we don't live in the simple universe filled with perfectly spherical rational actors that libertarian requires to make any sense.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:maybe so but the photo doesn't help in that half his face is in shadow, ike he's about to walk through that blue curtain onto the set of a daytime soap and start dropping bombs about the protagonist's true parentage Oh yeah, terrible optics but I don't think that he was like "Hell yeah, Arab Death"
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Romney: "“I think it’s a terrible course for America to stand in apology for our values, that instead when our grounds are being attacked and being breached, that the first response of the United States must be outrage at the breach of the sovereignty of our nation, An apology for America’s values is never the right course.” *walks away from podium* Romney [Internal Monologue]: "Oh hey, today is taco tuesday! Alright!"
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zoux posted:I honestly don't think that's what happened, I think he just walks around with a vacant genial smile on his face 24/7 like every Mormon missionary I've ever seen. He got asked a question after his dumb press statement, turned on his heel and walked away while smirking. There is no charitable light to shine on this particular moment. The spectrum goes from bad to worse depending on how favorable you are with R-Money.
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