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ADINSX
Sep 9, 2003

Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?

My AGV K5 came in today, picked it up at the store and it Feels Good Man. Cheekpads are stiff of course but they'll break in. I think I finally found a helmet/size that fits me, I've never had a helmet that felt so right on the crown of my head.

Now all of my most commonly worn gear is Italian (owned if not made there), along with my bike itself :italy:

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Schroeder91 posted:

$27 a pair for over the calf :gonk:

Just get some football (soccer) socks. Even the fancy ones with wicking material and arch supports and poo poo are like £3 a pair.

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010
Smartwool socks. I have like, ten pairs, and they go with everything.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.
I just wear my normal ankle socks

Coredump
Dec 1, 2002

Chichevache posted:

I just wear my normal ankle socks

heathen.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.
I also wear chinos or sometimes just boxers under my pants. No fancy thermal underboxer with crotch padding and a coccyx hole.

TheFonz
Aug 3, 2002

<3

Chichevache posted:

I also wear chinos or sometimes just boxers under my pants. No fancy thermal underboxer with crotch padding and a coccyx hole.

I always steal a pair of my wife's silkiest panties before I go on a long trip.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

TheFonz posted:

I always steal a pair of my wife's silkiest panties before I go on a long trip.

I steal a pair of hers too. :smugdog:

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

Chichevache posted:

I also wear chinos or sometimes just boxers under my pants. No fancy thermal underboxer with crotch padding and a coccyx hole.

i dont even use a seat, i just grease the post

e: wait, i thought this was the bicycle thread, whoops

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Chichevache posted:

I steal a pair of hers too. :smugdog:

Really? She just gives them to me.

TheFonz
Aug 3, 2002

<3

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Really? She just gives them to me.

Dorothy Mantooth is a saint!

Gay Nudist Dad
Dec 12, 2006

asshole on a scooter

Beach Bum posted:

Smartwool socks. I have like, ten pairs, and they go with everything.

Just watch Sierra Trading Post and grab good merino or wool socks for cheap (even more so with one of their constant 25-35% coupons).

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010

Gay Nudist Dad posted:

Just watch Sierra Trading Post and grab good merino or wool socks for cheap (even more so with one of their constant 25-35% coupons).

Mine were a gift. I joked to my parents that I'd like socks for Christmas, and not only did they make be laugh by doing so but Dad absolutely hit it out of the park with these. I've had them for two years and only a couple are starting to show wear. I'm not easy on my footwear, either.

I like turtles
Aug 6, 2009

I hate my big stupid fat head - I have a Scorpion EXO-R710 and an HJC IS-MAX II both of which are fine when I try them on in the store, or wear them for an hour at home, trying them before going on a ride.
Then I go on a ride and both of them clamp down vice like about an inch over my brow line. On an hour each way ride with the HJC, out I had to stop twice, and once on the way back. This was one of the "ideal fit" helmets from lidpicker too.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
Perhaps you need a long oval?

Here4DaGangBang
Dec 3, 2004

I beat my dick like it owes me money!

BlackMK4 posted:

Perhaps you need a long oval?

Yeah, sounds like what happened to me when I started riding. An hour or so into a highway ride, cue splitting headache originating from a hotspot on my forehead. Presumably from the wind pressing the helmet onto my head; it had been fine at lower speeds.

Bought an Arai long oval helmet, fit like a glove.

I like turtles
Aug 6, 2009

I'll give that a shot, thanks guys

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
If you can fit into a small I have a Bell RS1 I'd send you for shipping...

I like turtles
Aug 6, 2009

I'm 2xl-3xl unfortunately, but thank you

ADINSX
Sep 9, 2003

Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?

Can someone recommend a nice classic looking medium sized (11 inch by 16 inch length/width approximately) bag/luggage intended to go on a small sissy bar luggage rack?

I've been looking on revzilla but unfortunately most of them expect you to have a backrest (which I don't have) so thats where they put their "main" strap (they all include some tie downs but that doesn't seem much easier than cargonetting my duffel bag to the back like I'm doing now)

I'm looking for something where the main fasteners go on the bottom of the bag.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.
Revzilla carries an airbag now. Looks pretty cool.
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/helite-turtle-airbag-vest

Supradog
Sep 1, 2004

A POOOST!?!??! YEEAAAAHHHH
My bother has one of those, never a use for it yet but seems to be working okay. Build quality is good, nothing broken on it in 3 years of use. He got the Hi-viz yellow. It does restrict some airflow though.

-Inu-
Nov 11, 2008

TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY CUBIC CENTIMETERS

Chichevache posted:

Revzilla carries an airbag now. Looks pretty cool.
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/helite-turtle-airbag-vest
They used to sell the Spidi one. When I worked there we kept one in the back to show people how they work. RS Taichi makes vests and a suit as well.

They're cool, but there's a certain art to getting one on and off again. Also, being tethered, you need to be really aware that thing is there. I've seen guys at the track forget it's there, get off the bike, and usually either A) the bike gets pulled over or B) the bag goes off and scares they everliving gently caress out of the person wearing it (incredibly unlikely though, due to the high pull force required on newer vests).

Lynza
Jun 1, 2000

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
- Robert A. Heinlein
Have been saving up for new overpants. The ones I have had lasted nearly 30k miles, but the zipper's broken, and they're really not waterproof enough for my commute.

Considering getting some Klim Badlands pants. Has anyone had experience with them in heavy rain? My understanding is that they're actually wateproof(ish? mostly?) without using a liner. I just want to be able to get to work and not have to sit with damp pants for 2 hours.

Day Man
Jul 30, 2007

Champion of the Sun!

Master of karate and friendship...
for everyone!


Lynza posted:

Have been saving up for new overpants. The ones I have had lasted nearly 30k miles, but the zipper's broken, and they're really not waterproof enough for my commute.

Considering getting some Klim Badlands pants. Has anyone had experience with them in heavy rain? My understanding is that they're actually wateproof(ish? mostly?) without using a liner. I just want to be able to get to work and not have to sit with damp pants for 2 hours.

I have the badlands suit and have used it in heavy rain successfully multiple times. Admittedly, the trips were only about 20 to 30 minutes on average, so I cannot vouch for longer than that. But they kept me completely dry in total downpours.

Supradog
Sep 1, 2004

A POOOST!?!??! YEEAAAAHHHH
I got the badlands pants, had em for about 20k km, 1 1/2 years and they are really waterproof. Just wash them sometimes so the pores does not get clogged in the gore tex(and remove funk) and use some silicon lube on the zippers when they get "dry".
I run either wool program or 1 hour normal clothes program with wool detergent for first wash, then a second wool program with no soap to get all the soap out.

Get the klim suspenders too while you're at it, the velcro loop thing they use works really well and there is no metal parts to gnav on the pants. I've Invested in different thickness merino base layer pants to go longer between washes. I got some super light for summer use so sweat goes into that and not the pants, but over 23c I just run underpants.

Though I never use them as overpants, I never have a proper jeans or something in it, so you might have to check sizes in person.

Lynza
Jun 1, 2000

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
- Robert A. Heinlein
Thanks, dudes! I think I'm gonna pull the trigger and do it. They have the jacket on sale at Revzilla, but I can't really do $1200 for both at the moment. Pants it is.

DreadLlama
Jul 15, 2005
Not just for breakfast anymore
My gloves have a habit of falling apart. Usually the seams around the fingertips go first. I'm not sure if this is because I usually buy the cheapest I can find or because I use them as workgloves as well. Do you wear the same gloves riding as you wear for stacking cinderblocks? I'm looking for product recommendations.

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002
My product recommendation is to go to Autozone or Lowes or someplace and buy some cheap Mechanix or generic leather work gloves and stop abusing your important protective gear on non-riding bullshit.

Deep Thoreau
Aug 16, 2008

So if I want to use waze or w/e during my ride, is there some blue-tooth thing I can put in my helmet? My helmet's too tight to wear my ear ring, so I'm not sure a hands-free phone headset would fit.

Jazzzzz
May 16, 2002
There are plenty of bluetooth communications units that come with speakers you can install behind the liner in your helmet and pair with your phone for music/nav/whatever. Sena and Cardo have been the big names in the market, but I haven't bought a new one in a few years so I'm a bit behind the times as to who's best at the moment.

its all nice on rice
Nov 12, 2006

Sweet, Salty Goodness.



Buglord
Sena and Cardo are still the highest quality. Chatterbox is still a brick on your helmet. Cardo's speakers are more slim than Sena's, and they come with a waterproof/dustproof warranty on their products. Sena is only water/dust resistant. Having used both brands, they have their pros and cons, but you an't go wrong either away. I can't think of a smart phone that doesn't transmit voice prompts or audio through bluetooth.
Avoid the cheap poo poo.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Jazzzzz posted:

There are plenty of bluetooth communications units that come with speakers you can install behind the liner in your helmet and pair with your phone for music/nav/whatever. Sena and Cardo have been the big names in the market, but I haven't bought a new one in a few years so I'm a bit behind the times as to who's best at the moment.

Both are good, comes down to the features and form factor you want. I have a Sena SM10HR which is the lowest-profile and most flexible one I've seen but is a pain because of the amount of slack cable you end up with, and you have to leave it on the helmet to charge (although you do have the option to buy a second battery).

The Cardo Scala Rider is much easier to fit, and you can detach it to charge, but it's a bit clunky looks-wise.

They both have excellent noise cancellation for phone use and noise-sensitive earphones so you don't have to fiddle with the volume. Can't talk about their use as intercoms because I have no friends.

Supradog
Sep 1, 2004

A POOOST!?!??! YEEAAAAHHHH
I've run Sena 20s and Scala G9 coms and I'll say the senas are light years better. It may have changed with newer scala products, but they where so slow to connect with no user feedback on what it was doing compared to sena 20s.

Me and my big brother ride together a lot and use coms alot so I'd say we've had about 15k km/ 1 1/2 years on both sets now.

Scala G9 vs Sena 20s

Physical robustness: Scala
Better connection to the dock on scala , sena has multiple pins where the spring in each of the 20 pins can get stuck down and not connect properly, scala has a more slide in connection that is more robust.
We've had one boom mic die on Sena in heavy rain, never had a problem with scala.

Connection speed and input speed: Sena
Much faster speed on input and establishing connection on sena, with user feedback! Scala g9 sucked on that point. You pressed the button and something may connect after 2 minutes of it negotiating talk quality or something(no feedback to user in this face, you just stand there in the sun waiting for the poo poo to do it's job). Very fun with random disconnects on a hot summer day. This point is the main reason we switched to sena. Waiting on electronic gizmos while baking in the sun versus just reconnect in 2 sec and ride on.

Sound Quality & volume: Sena
Sound quality is better on the sena and default speakers can output more sound. Noise cancellation is about equal. You can easily swap speakers on sena, new scalas i think so too, but the g9 had had wired speakers you had to cut to upgrade speakers.

Range and line of sight sensitivity :scala
Scala has abit better range and are less sensitive to line of sight. We've noticed that the sena does not like hard hinders, like a canyon wall on the inside of a turn making it block. Scala would drop down in voice quality and keep the connection better.

Battery: Sena
We've had 16 hours + on sena, vs 8-10 hours on scala with our usage, constant connection, but not 100% talk all the time, no background music.

Both are good units, its just that the older scalas was so drat slow to operate/connect that we wanted to try something else.

-Inu-
Nov 11, 2008

TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY CUBIC CENTIMETERS

DreadLlama posted:

My gloves have a habit of falling apart. Usually the seams around the fingertips go first. I'm not sure if this is because I usually buy the cheapest I can find or because I use them as workgloves as well. Do you wear the same gloves riding as you wear for stacking cinderblocks? I'm looking for product recommendations.
My gloves don't touch anything other than a motorcycle, and get reconditioned every couple of months or any time they get wet. Generally, a well taken care of pair of gloves will last you a long time. I haven't bought new gloves in 6 years. Here are my GP-Pros in 2010 immediately following an 80mph track crash VS the same pair of gloves in 2016 after tens of thousands of miles added, 4 seasons of trackdays and races, and a 120mph crash:





$240 gloves over 6 years comes out to a tad more than $3/month. I'll take that for something that has turned what would have been a broken wrist, into a sprain - and what would have been a shattered hand into a minor hairline fracture.

They look a lot more grungy now, but despite appearances, the palm and thumb are absolutely nowhere near being worn through. These should last me at least a few more seasons or another crash. Take care of your gear and it will take care of you.

DreadLlama
Jul 15, 2005
Not just for breakfast anymore
Those do not look like squid gloves.

Could I get your opinion on any of the following:






I know from reading this article that scaphoid protection is important but I'm not sure how each of these gloves compare. Do any differences stand out at a glance that someone new/inexperienced might overlook?

HotCanadianChick posted:

My product recommendation is to go to Autozone or Lowes or someplace and buy some cheap Mechanix or generic leather work gloves and stop abusing your important protective gear on non-riding bullshit.

This is legit good advice and I'll follow it once I move out of the $20/pair-of-gloves price range.

M42
Nov 12, 2012


lovely ebay brands, I would avoid them - stitching is likely garbage and will blow out the moment it hits the ground. You really aren't gonna do well limiting yourself to $50 gloves

cursedshitbox
May 20, 2012

Your rear-end wont survive my hammering.



Fun Shoe
imo gear is worth spending a good chunk of coin on. Injuries suck. Recoveries suck even more. I use Taichi gp-evo gloves for DD use. in a year and a half they're holding up quite well, the cost will sting a little though. (I wanted scaphoid protection and not handroids)

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.
I would rather ride without a jacket than without my gloves. Don't be loving stupid.


Edit
Here is a graphic description of a man losing his hands while riding.

quote:

EXTREME RANT WARNING, sorry, I blame meds. I haven't been on since sep 28... here's why;

Around 1:30 am, on September 30th last year, while heading home to my girlfriends after work, I had just gotten on the interstate 101, northbound from mcdowell, and after a quick spool up to cruising speed (@70 indicated) -I realized it was too cold to be out in without leathers, especially to make a 25+ mile trek north especially with plans to return later still (I was glad the temp gave call for them.) So, I stayed in the on/off lane but noted headlights closing rapidly from the ramp behind me and figured it must be a cop enroute to a scene. Having decided to roll down to the next exit, take a cruise to my home (about 3 miles away) to suit up and get back on the road, I stayed in about the rightmost third of the far right lane and took the Thomas exit as while rolling off the gas, I noticed that the vehicle closing on me was coming across 2 or 3 lanes and attempting to exit as well, looking over my left shoulder I saw it was no cop car. I was hit when a brown, beat-to-poo poo, early '80's Nissan screamed by me, passing me on a one-lane interstate offramp and clipping my left barend. The bike leapt to the right about a foot, landed in a path parallel to my chosen and the front end went nuts, my hands were thrown off the controls and I scrambled desperately to get ahold of the bars. The rear brake affect was weak but I managed not to skid. In less than an instant, my life was forever changed. The exit veered left and I was airborne as the gravel-covered embankment built up for the roadway sloped away towards a concrete lined drainage canal 30+ feet wide and 10+ feet deep. Thankfully, I don't recall the next two seconds, but Highway Patrol recreationalists say the bikes front dug into the embankment and I was catapulted over 250ft bouncing through gravel and finally into the empty canal. Upon being shot over the bars, the right mirror; like a mellon-baller, took a 5"+ diameter, 3/4" deep super scoop out of my right leg, just outside the knee, gouging and exposing the cap and knuckle of both bones. My clothes were tattered, as was the flesh beneath. My boot sole was separated. Both wrists were shattered as were most fingers, some partially amputated, my ankles were disjointed and my backside deeply gouged. Numerous other open injuries occured and I came to rest in a half inch or so of fertilizer/waste/mud with a tiny trickle of farm field run off water where I lay unconscious for a brief time. Upon awakening, I stood and staggered about briefly, looking for the bike before discovering the mangled remains of my hands and seeing fingers broken off sideways and hanging by tendons. Looking down my left forearm, 8+ inches of the ulna were exposed, I could see through my left palm, and the right hand was about the same, tendons and bones visible up and down the length of the arm. My right hand was 90 degrees out of line with the wrist and arm bones, blood flowed everywhere. I muttered, then yelled; "you gotta be kidding me!! YOU'VE GOT TO BE loving KIDDING ME!!!" unable to exit the canal I began yelling for help. An older, mexican-looking fellow appeared after a few minutes and shouted down at me to "get the hell outta there!!" I yelled at him to call for help. He left, I tried to cop a squat on my helmet, missed, and lapsed in and out of consciousness a few times before an ambulance crew showed up. The crew reported my condition to the pd enroute to St Joes and DPS (Highway) sent a fatality specialist to the scene. They tried to get my name and such, but I wouldn't shut up about the brown nissan p/u. I remember wanting someone to make a note of it, and became angy when being asked other, insignificant (to me) questions instead of making that point. DPS sent a cop to do a dui/drug check on me and see how high I was, (not) then, finally, they gave me a shot of something that made everything below my neck disapear. Apparently, the cop then took a statement from me (now high as a kite) but somehow missed the reference to, the brown nissan, instead concentrating on anything else in the roadway. A few hours later, my name still unknown, I lapsed into a coma, after a few days my identity was found and my sister (from FL) was contacted for permission to amputate my hands, she declined and got ahold of my girlfriend after recovering my cell phone. G/f is a nurse and had been mad that I hadn't called over a week, but sis filled her in and she saw me through the bulk of the following; coming out of a weeklong coma, coming off a ventilator, 17 or so hand surgeries; (whatever $1.3M buys) donor muscles/tendons bloodvessels transplanted from left leg, 2+ square feet of skin grafted from both legs to other sites, numerous debriedments, 8 or 9 transfusions, 3 times hearing; "he may not survive the next hour", weeks of seeing me shaking under a pile of blankets lapsing a month where I could keep nothing down, nightmares of penguins with bills like scissoring steak knives tearing apart my hands, hours of crying, screaming moaning in pain. I finally remembered the accident in early November. The bike is totalled, flipped through gravel, stopped on canals lip. My "hands" are a sick joke. Social security and welfare want me to fill out forms. Mortage is months behind, ditto bills, one creditor calls daily, even after I explained that I have no money for them, but they come right after the roof over my head, my sons stomach, the lights gas phone, the jeep, aol and the rest of $2700+ monthly bills short term disability (teamsters, disapointing) put $544 per month (not week) toward. Whats gonna be comical is the half-handed guy trying to move his poo poo to storage via Uhaul when I get foreclosed/sellout. Over 17 years, I've dropped bikes, I've dumped, wiped out, been flung hiside and crushed under this and that. Never like this. I've heard numerous times that I'm lucky to be alive, but while I suppose I'm glad I'm not looking out of a vegetable, this isn't "luck" -quite the contrary, "lucky" is seeing me from the outside as perfectly healthy nurses have. Hell, "luck" would've been passing painlessly and in midair from this earth, before the combined forces of gravity and inertia deformed me and ground me to shreds. I just knew I had my gloves on, I always wore them... but, nope. Every day and night I pray and beg God for another chance, to live forward from Sept 29th, 2003, in this body and with all else as it was then, but knowing what I know now. I don't wanna win lotto, I don't need 3 wishes, I'd feel better if I could even have a few minutes to appear at the on ramp the minute before I shot up it, wave myself down if I have to scream at "me" and holding the helmet as it is now, briefly explain 100 reasons I should ease onto the highway... ..as that little nissan sings by... I'll likely never ride again. I have gained some insight regarding why some guys won't wear a helmet, they know they couldn't live like this... if it weren't for hoping I can still be there for and raise my son grows to be a smarter, healthier, happier man than me; I would've made myself some rat poison pancakes by now. My life isn't special, maybe I wasn't grateful when I was truly blessed, or maybe God is like a kid with a magnifying glass on an anthill on a sunny day, and if thats the case I hope he saw what he wanted happen. If there is a heaven, it will be like living forth from the day before, preventing the accident, and maybe kicking Gods rear end in a boxing match because I couldn't see anyone in a position/condition praying to me and not getting my help asap... I wish all you who ride the best, I pray for you, and am grateful for any prayers you could find in your hearts for me. Maybe someday I'll get at least my sense of humor back. Sincerely, 03wadofZ1Rmetal.crybaby.comADMINS NOTE: Eric took his life on Friday, June 4, 2004 due to depression and hopelessness brought on by this accident. If you would like to contribute to his 7 year old son's trust fund, please see the details here: http://www.zrxoa.org/forums/showthre...threadid=57567

Chichevache fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Aug 11, 2016

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Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
He must have been riding a Ulysses, because that sure was a stream of consciousness.


I'm making a joke because JESUS CHICHE WHY WOULD YOU NOT PUT A TRIGGER WARNING ON THAT poo poo. :gonk:

Related: I already couldn't ride without gloves because my naked hands feel wrong on the controls and I can't help picturing them hitting the ground and this squicks me out enough to make me ride badly. That feeling is now doubled, so uh thanks I guess.

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