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Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
I still have all my VHS tapes in a box, with my old VCR. Sometimes I like to watch B movies on it just for the nostalgia because nothing says nostalgia like film grain and tape overlap.

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doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

My parents had this because they'd tape stuff off the TV, watch it, pop the thing in the rewinder, pop it in the other VCR so it could be ready to record stuff.

If memory serves, you'd also get fined for not rewinding back in the day, but I could be wrong. VCRs at one time were also not very cheap; you could get one for $100 in the 90's, but it would be total poo poo. To get a good one, you'd want to spend at least $200. In 90's money. A $10-15 rewinder was cheap insurance that the VCR investment would last a longer.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
I remember when video stores used to charge you a fee if you didn't rewind a tape when you returned it, too.

I also remember when our video store used to check out the game instruction manuals as separate items from the game itself, but forget to check them back in. Tat was fun being told I needed to come up with $20 for a missing manual because they didn't ring it up when it came back in.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
I no longer own a VCR, but I still have something like 24 hours worth of 9/11 CNN/Fox News/ABC/CBS footage on a handful of long play VHS tapes (I figured it was a pretty major historical moment, and I had a bunch of empty tapes laying around that I used for monthly wrestling PPV's, so I just recorded various channels until I ran out of blank tapes; each tape was a different network.)

I wonder how much that'd cost for digital transfer, for posterity's sake?

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Gonz posted:

I no longer own a VCR, but I still have something like 24 hours worth of 9/11 CNN/Fox News/ABC/CBS footage on a handful of long play VHS tapes (I figured it was a pretty major historical moment, and I had a bunch of empty tapes laying around that I used for monthly wrestling PPV's, so I just recorded various channels until I ran out of blank tapes; each tape was a different network.)

I wonder how much that'd cost for digital transfer, for posterity's sake?

Unless you want to do it yourself, a lot. It would be cheaper to just get the equipment yourself than pay someone to transfer all that poo poo.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

Skoll posted:

Unless you want to do it yourself, a lot. It would be cheaper to just get the equipment yourself than pay someone to transfer all that poo poo.

I've been browsing around online regarding the financial aspect of doing this, and yeah, you're absolutely right. I'd probably just be better off doing it myself. That might be a project I put forth later this year.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
Cool things from the 90s:

a) VHS rewinders shaped like things, a car perhaps

b) grungy small independent rental shops with cool horror movie sections and cardboard cutouts of movie characters, and old sun-bleached posters on the walls

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

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Code Jockey posted:

Cool things from the 90s:

a) VHS rewinders shaped like things, a car perhaps

Speaking of things shaped like things, I had one of these (except the golden retriever model instead of the Dalmatian):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5frM5uQ9xM0

After a while something hosed up with it and the barking ringtone became slow and distorted and almost demonic. The dog phone from hell.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
I had one shaped like Tim Burton's Batmobile. It was boss as hell.

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



Skoll posted:

Odd way of spelling Nokia 1110 5110, the only phone that will survive inevitable nuclear war.

FTFY

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Casimir Radon posted:

I've been helping my grandma move. She has a VHS rewinder that she never took out of the box.

Keep digging! you might find the elusive DVD Rewinder!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guQMShOEchM

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

Why did they stop making weird phones :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brL1TFsaEFs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL9FzUdd_7U

a star war betamax
Sep 17, 2011

by Lowtax
Gary’s Answer

Gonz posted:

That's basically what I used mine for. As soon as I was done with a movie, it went right in the rewinder and then back on the shelf so I didn't have to bother with it next time.

Same except instead of rewinding it in the rewinder right away like we were supposed to, we would just toss the tape back on the rack (usually ignoring dad's very complicated and precise filing system based on genre)

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

Code Jockey posted:

Cool things from the 90s:


b) grungy small independent rental shops with cool horror movie sections and cardboard cutouts of movie characters, and old sun-bleached posters on the walls

I made an entire thread about this. I even tried to emulate the sun bleached poster thing later in the thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3684390

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

I made an entire thread about this. I even tried to emulate the sun bleached poster thing later in the thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3684390

Of course Cool as Ice would be on page one.

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men

Because we stopped having landlines. :(

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
i had completely forgotten about having to rewind VCR tapes before returning them to blockbuster. occasionally we would rent something and it wouldnt be rewound and my dad would get real miffed about it

my turn in the barrel
Dec 31, 2007

And if you were a poor you bought used tapes after the rental store was done with them.

Scenes like the tits in fast times at Ridgemont high would be static from everyone who rented it pausing it. You might be missing snippets where the tape broke in someone's lovely VCR. But that poo poo was cheaper and you got a beat to poo poo box and a Be Kind Please Rewind sticker.

Mr-Spain
Aug 27, 2003

Bullshit... you can be mine.

Gonz posted:

That's basically what I used mine for. As soon as I was done with a movie, it went right in the rewinder and then back on the shelf so I didn't have to bother with it next time.

Oh yea popping in a movie that you wanted to watch already halfway through sucked.

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men
And pausing usually had lines or something distorted over what you wanted to see anyways. I remember the first DVD I ever watched at a friend's house was Wild Things and we paused on some boobs and the image was crystal clear and it totally blew my mind. Bought a DVD player that very week.

SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


Code Jockey posted:

Cool things from the 90s:

a) VHS rewinders shaped like things, a car perhaps

b) grungy small independent rental shops with cool horror movie sections and cardboard cutouts of movie characters, and old sun-bleached posters on the walls
I worked at a video rental store in the 90s. You are missing one:

c) A room full of VHS porn behind a curtain in the back of the store

and bonus:

d) people who rent porn at a video store


We didn't charge for not rewinding or anything. There was a bank of rewinders under the N64 demo station.

SLOSifl has a new favorite as of 14:12 on Aug 11, 2016

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

SLOSifl posted:

There was a bank of rewinders under the N64 demo station.

Thread title please.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS
Every early (pre-1986 or so) VCR that I ever saw had a broken rewind feature, those early mechanisms were utterly terrible. So if you were poor, people would give you perfectly good VCR's and all you had to do was buy a $15 rewinder and you were good to go.

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

CubanMissile posted:

And pausing usually had lines or something distorted over what you wanted to see anyways. I remember the first DVD I ever watched at a friend's house was Wild Things and we paused on some boobs and the image was crystal clear and it totally blew my mind. Bought a DVD player that very week.

The first movie I remember using pause and frame advance in a DVD player was Final Destination for the scene with the bus.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Cojawfee posted:

Thread title please.

yaaaaaay thank you mystery moderator :bravo:

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

GutBomb posted:

Wait... It isn't like this with other providers? I've always used t-mobile so I've always just assumed it's like that with all of them.

sprint, yeah

but sprint is so bad that like you legitimately shouldn't compare it. sprint doesn't have 3g. or lte.

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax
when i switched to tmobile i did a speed test expecting like slightly better than sprint (300 kbps? 400kbps maybe) and when i looked down it said "8400 kbps" and that was when i realized that there is a reason sprint does unlimited data with no strings attached

Alan_Shore
Dec 2, 2004

You'll never see VHS make a comeback like vinyl or even cassette tapes have, right? They have no advantages, and a lot of them even cut off the picture for pan and scan. I just don't see it happening, not even for retro fun times.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Alan_Shore posted:

You'll never see VHS make a comeback like vinyl or even cassette tapes have, right? They have no advantages, and a lot of them even cut off the picture for pan and scan. I just don't see it happening, not even for retro fun times.

It's probably limited to obscure titles that never made it to dvd, though nowadays it's so easy to rip a digital copy of a VHS that you don't even see that very much anymore.
Really it's more of a cheapness thing. A few of my old crust punk friends liked 'em because they were able to amass a huge collection of solid movies for next to nothing.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

Alan_Shore posted:

You'll never see VHS make a comeback like vinyl or even cassette tapes have, right? They have no advantages, and a lot of them even cut off the picture for pan and scan. I just don't see it happening, not even for retro fun times.

yeah i cant really think of an avenue for them to make a comeback. it's much less likely to find somebody who still has a vcr versus people that still have turntables or even cassette decks.

it's not like people ever went gaga over vcr packaging and extras like they do with vinyl and tapes even. the vhs tapes have 0 aesthetic value.

if you wanna retro nerd out over video formats it seems to me LaserDisc is king

Gaz2k21
Sep 1, 2006

MEGALA---WHO??!!??
There is a small community of VHS collectors but it seems to be mostly horror movies as theirs a shitload that will likely never see a digital release, some really obscure titles have a pretty impressive value.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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8 track betamax posted:

Same except instead of rewinding it in the rewinder right away like we were supposed to, we would just toss the tape back on the rack (usually ignoring dad's very complicated and precise filing system based on genre)

What's it like having Gregg Turkington for a dad

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Even audio cassettes are worthless as they degrade over time.

SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


Cojawfee posted:

Even audio cassettes are worthless as they degrade over time.
There was a difference between rental tapes and straight-to-consumer tapes. The store I worked at paid roughly $70 per rental tape (IIRC). They were more durable than the MSRP $9.99-29.99 consumer tapes. I occasionally had to cut out kinks or tears in the tapes and splice them together, but otherwise they lasted forever.

Quality would still fade over time, but not as quickly as a tape you'd have at home. It was pretty rare that I had to retire a rental tape. Those shits were tough.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

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Humphreys posted:

Keep digging! you might find the elusive DVD Rewinder!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guQMShOEchM

I used to chat with a guy on MSN who kept telling me to go to Radio Shack and ask for a DVD rewinder and some gold-plated ethernet cables. I never did it of course because I'm not dumb and also because the nearest Shack was a three hour drive away.

Alan_Shore posted:

You'll never see VHS make a comeback like vinyl or even cassette tapes have, right? They have no advantages, and a lot of them even cut off the picture for pan and scan. I just don't see it happening, not even for retro fun times.

Some VHS cover art was pretty dope. Like Jurassic Park was just a black case with the park logo on it and its sequel had the holographic T. rex. I'm pretty sure the DVD releases weren't as cool.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Gaz2k21 posted:

There is a small community of VHS collectors but it seems to be mostly horror movies as theirs a shitload that will likely never see a digital release, some really obscure titles have a pretty impressive value.

There are quite a few cult hits that never made it to DVD. The Decline of Western Civilization movies are a good example. They finally were released on Blu-Ray last year but before that your only hope was a Torrent of the film form when it aired on IFC or a copy of the VHS. Some movies were also slightly modified when they were put on DVD with scenes missing or dialogue changed. Goodfellas used to show the airline name on the ticket the babysitter held while she was on the phone. Casino used not have the sub titles when Pesci and De Niro were talking code on the phone.

I helped run my friend's video store from 1993 to 1995 and it's amazing how things changed over night. I wish eBay was around back then because the amount of promo posters, cardboard stands, cups, hats, jackets, etc. that the distributors handed out was pretty cool and I'm sure collectible. You would also get screeners for just about any movie you would imagine. The bigger titles were sometimes hard to come by but every single B horror movie or soft porn (LOTS of Shannon Tweed movies) I got a copy of. Full Moon (makers of the Puppet Master movies) sent us a copy of everything.

I don't remember us really charging people who didn't rewind. Our store was part of a local chain who didn't really care and it was easier for us to just use the rewind machines and not hassle and argue with a customer over $1.

Our chain was the only one in town that rented porn and that pretty much kept our lights on. These tapes were never rewound and when they came back you'd see that only 1/4 of the movie had been watched before it was ejected.

Back then if you wanted a copy of a movie on VHS you paid $100 retail. This was done to prevent the consumers form buying their own copy and thus keep the rental stores in business. I don't remember the year but soon companies would release movies for sale to the public after a few months after they had been for rent, allowing the stores to make their money back.

I've only see video rental stores in rural areas now or in places like cottage country in Ontario. Most of the cottages have DVD players and if it's a rainy day you're gonna want something to do.

EDIT: Some movies took up two tapes so you would definitely want to switch them out right away. Stuff like Ben Hurr or The Godfather.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


LaserDisc really was where it was at, bonus-wise. I think someone posted this already, but yeah, you wasn't getting stuff like this with videotapes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOrn2hBsYKE

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I never planned to get into Laserdisc in tyool 2016 but then I found sealed copies of Space Jam and Robin Hood: Men in Tights for $.50 each and it's all been downhill from there

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
I may have talked about these in earlier in the thread.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitance_Electronic_Disc

Basically a record LP in a cart that you insert into a machine. Playback is done with a stylus.

The same guy that owns the PC Museum in Ontario also has the largest collection of CEDs in Canada.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqMtjv6WcAU&t=20s

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


drunk asian neighbor posted:

I never planned to get into Laserdisc in tyool 2016 but then I found sealed copies of Space Jam and Robin Hood: Men in Tights for $.50 each and it's all been downhill from there

Did you open them?

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