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Twerk from Home posted:Cheaper, faster, uglier: I guess Fiat really does have some Mopar blood running in it's veins now. Still built by Mazda in Japan, so the build quality is the same. Plus, it is so much better looking than the ND 
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Farking Bastage posted:The Abarth ones are *really* sexy in my opinion. It's the headlight proportion to the rest of the front fascia (especially the giant grill) that I really dislike, so the Abarth version makes no difference there. I find the ND way more attractive, especially lowered a bit.
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BloodBag posted:I saw one this past week driving around Houston. Not that trim level, the base one. It's ugly and stupid looking in person. The ND that it shares a platform with looks gorgeous by comparison. It photographs well enough, I guess, but that fiat looks like garbage in person. If mazda would put a turbo in theirs, I wouldn't be having this existential crisis. Also my WRX is showing signs of an impending ringland failure.
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Aug 10, 2016 21:42
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The Abarth looks like poo poo, the standard MX5 looks awesome in comparison and I say this as someone who HATED it initially. The Abarth really looks half arsed, the black bonnet and cheap looking grille, the messy headlights... It's just not a nice looking car at all.
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Aug 10, 2016 21:58
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I love the new MX5. The regular 124 looks cute, but the Abarth looks like it went through Pimp My Ride, Eurotrash edition.
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Infinotize posted:I love the new MX5. The regular 124 looks cute, but the Abarth looks like it went through Pimp My Ride, Eurotrash edition. Agreed, the two-tone kills it for me. I know you get brakes and suspension bits, but for only 5 hp more I'd go with a regular spec 124.
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a primate posted:Agreed, the two-tone kills it for me. I know you get brakes and suspension bits, but for only 5 hp more I'd go with a regular spec 124. you don't have to get the black hood and trunk, in fact is a $1,995 option you have to add.
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kill me now posted:you don't have to get the black hood and trunk, in fact is a $1,995 option you have to add. That's great news 
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Aug 11, 2016 00:05
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If you don't get the matte surfaces you suck and can't appreciate heritage.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:If you don't get the matte surfaces you suck and can't appreciate heritage. If you buy one of those ugly loving things over an MX5 you're a euro trash piece of poo poo anyway. That thing is horrendous.
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Too bad the 124 is apparently more fun to drive, let alone comparing it to the 124 abarth
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Aug 11, 2016 09:09
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If I had to describe the 124 in person, the way the whole body seems to wrap under the car like a sheet around a mattress. In fact, it looks like a box spring sitting on four legged bed frame. It's really quite badly proportioned whereas the ND seems to be somewhat slab-sided all the way to the bottom of the body by comparison. I get that old 60s-70s cars did that wrap-under thing, and the Mopars did it to great effect, but this just apes that style very clumsily.
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Aug 11, 2016 13:45
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Ah, Italian Mopar(io) , what a time to be alive.
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El Scotch posted:Ah, Italian Mopar(io) , what a time to be alive. It's like a double negative.
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coolskillrex remix posted:Too bad the 124 is apparently more fun to drive, let alone comparing it to the 124 abarth Also, the Miata is faster.
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BloodBag posted:If I had to describe the 124 in person, the way the whole body seems to wrap under the car like a sheet around a mattress. In fact, it looks like a box spring sitting on four legged bed frame. It's really quite badly proportioned whereas the ND seems to be somewhat slab-sided all the way to the bottom of the body by comparison. I get that old 60s-70s cars did that wrap-under thing, and the Mopars did it to great effect, but this just apes that style very clumsily. I'll have to see one in person, but I will grant you that the new 124 looks way worse than the original.
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TheGoatTrick posted:Depends on who you ask. The initial press on the 124 was great (as it is with pretty much every car), and then people started to waver a bit when they actually drove them back to back. This goes into some good detail: http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-comparison-tests/a30078/fiat-124-abarth-vs-mazda-miata-club-track-test/. The big thing with the Fiat is that the 1.4 MultiAir turbo has a massive aftermarket for extremely cheap gains. edit: You can get an OEMish Magneti Marelli unit for 700 bucks that will take you over 200hp. KYOON GRIFFEY JR fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Aug 11, 2016 |
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TheGoatTrick posted:Depends on who you ask. The initial press on the 124 was great (as it is with pretty much every car), and then people started to waver a bit when they actually drove them back to back. This goes into some good detail: http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-comparison-tests/a30078/fiat-124-abarth-vs-mazda-miata-club-track-test/. Motortrend is firmly on the side that the 124 is more fun to drive.
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KozmoNaut posted:Motortrend is firmly on the side that the 124 is more fun to drive. So was Grassroots Motorsports.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Theyre so neck and neck on paper the only way to make sure before getting one is a back to back test drive.
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The abarth 124 looks like a good and fun car and I feel like people would think I am a fun and interesting person while driving it. Also, It avoids any miata  jokes, which I figure would get annoying after a while.
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I liked the look of the 124 until I saw it in person. Maybe it was because it was on a stand but it just didn't seem right.
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TheGoatTrick posted:Depends on who you ask. The initial press on the 124 was great (as it is with pretty much every car), and then people started to waver a bit when they actually drove them back to back. This goes into some good detail: http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-comparison-tests/a30078/fiat-124-abarth-vs-mazda-miata-club-track-test/. The targa top Miata is so good looking that I would never buy a soft top one... I wonder if the brakes still work as well with like an extra 200lbs
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:The big thing with the Fiat is that the 1.4 MultiAir turbo has a massive aftermarket for extremely cheap gains. Cheaper than that soon enougj. Hell, i paid $300 for the ecm that took my Abarth 500C to 195ish HP. The 1.4 is a great little engine.
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coolskillrex remix posted:The targa top Miata is so good looking that I would never buy a soft top one... I wonder if the brakes still work as well with like an extra 200lbs
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Do brakes stop working with a fat passenger in the car?
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I want a fixed-roof MX5-RF in the worst way. Take out all the folding roof mechanicals and I'll buy it.
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I'm waiting for someone to make a DIY kit or guide to do just that.
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Add me to that list but rather a manual retracting roof, cuz ya know......I still want to feel my hair blowing in the wind every now and then.
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travisray2004 posted:Add me to that list but rather a manual retracting roof, cuz ya know......I still want to feel my hair blowing in the wind every now and then. The worst of all possible worlds! Where do I sign?
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Honda civic sport hatchback get exposed exhaust god bless
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:The worst of all possible worlds! Where do I sign? Thank you for voicing your incorrect opinion.
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I just want a Miata I can fit in. I test drove an NC and sat in the new one at the dealer and neither one would be usable as a daily driver. My heart was broken  also is there any chance that the RX-9 rumors are true? http://www.autoblog.com/2016/08/24/mazda-rx-9-coupe-concept-tokyo-report/
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FBS posted:I just want a Miata I can fit in. I test drove an NC and sat in the new one at the dealer and neither one would be usable as a daily driver. My heart was broken I'll believe it when I see a verified MSRP. Not a second before.
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FBS posted:I just want a Miata I can fit in. I test drove an NC and sat in the new one at the dealer and neither one would be usable as a daily driver. My heart was broken I've seen people lower the floor pans on a NA's using thicker gauge metal where the seat mounts so it's just a few millimeters above the bottom of the frame rail.
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:I'll believe it when I see a verified MSRP. Not a second before. If they make this thing before some Mazdaspeed variants I'll be disappointed.
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Is it even possible to make a worthwhile rotary that can meet all the new emissions and mpg requirements?
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KakerMix posted:If they make this thing before some Mazdaspeed variants I'll be disappointed. Yup. They have all the parts in the bin, just do it. Buhbuhj posted:Is it even possible to make a worthwhile rotary that can meet all the new emissions and mpg requirements? Without electrification? They probably can make something that meets what is required today, but probably not something that will stay good for the next ten years and spending a shitload of money re-engineering a motor that's only going to be legal for a short time is really silly. I think rotaries and electrics make a ton of sense to mate together.
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Hydrogen Rotary / other alt-fuel rotary makes the most sense to me.
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I would really like Hydrogen to be viable.
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