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EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
On the other hand people were going all boo hiss police state when he was first detained because omg thought police he's just shitposting.

This probably wouldn't have happened if our society didn't have its heads completely up its collective rear end when it comes to treating the mentally ill. We seem to only have 2 plays in our playbook; release and cross fingers or shoot until dead.

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Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

DariusLikewise posted:

So the police detained a mentally deranged person, released them to a small Ontario town where they continued to plan their attack and killed him after they got a tip that their inaction resulted in a possible terrorist attack. How is this a win for law enforcement? I hate Canadians.

Right?

If anything this seems like a failure of the whole peace bond process. If the guy was a legitimate terror threat (apparently he was) why wasn't he arrested and held in detention?

velvet milkman
Feb 13, 2012

by R. Guyovich
we should indefinitely detain all people that show signs of mental illness until we can Figure This Thing Out

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
They should have both locked him up and not locked him up at the same time. Obviously.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Indefinitely detain all Canadians until we can set the Canadian Terrorism Threat index to low. It's the only way to prevent terrorism guys.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
He was arrested and released on a peace bond, and later shot whilst trying to violate the terms of that peace bond by blowing things up.

For those whining about this outcome: what should've been done differently? Keeping more people locked up for longer periods of time? That doesn't seem beneficial, or particularly legal before they've committed a crime.

We waited until he posed a real and verifiable risk, so as not to unduly violate his civil liberties, and now a lovely aspiring terrorist is dead. Seems ideal.

upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

You'd figure the evidence used to secure a peace bond would also be sufficient for obtaining a search warrant to find said bomb-making stuff.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

"These are people who are part of the system. It’s entirely different. It’s not attacking innocents, people who are just going about their daily lives. If a country goes to war with another country or another people or another community, I think that they have to be prepared for things like that to happen, and when it does happen, they shouldn’t act surprised. They had it coming to them. They deserved it."

Not a whole lot different from what you might read around here. CBC was reporting they had to set off explosive devices? He already built the bomb I budss?

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

jfood posted:

You'd figure the evidence used to secure a peace bond would also be sufficient for obtaining a search warrant to find said bomb-making stuff.

And then they let him out on a peace bond, which means there isn't much stopping him from going back to the bomb stuff store.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

quote:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/streit-libya-un-1.3711776?cmp=rss

EXCLUSIVE
Canadian firm shipped armoured cars to lawless Libya despite UN warning

According to reports tabled in June in Parliament, Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird signed off on $2.68 million in armoured vehicle export sales to Libya during 2012-13, the same time frame the UN was investigating.

Those pesky Liberals, selling taking credit for selling weapons to the Saudi's :argh:

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

Frosted Flake posted:

Not a whole lot different from what you might read around here.

And it will be equally not shocking when someone from this thread goes nuts and tries to act out their violent mastubatory fantasies.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Jordan7hm posted:

And it will be equally not shocking when someone from this thread goes nuts and tries to act out their violent mastubatory fantasies.

Hey I worked hard on those fuckin pumpkins man

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Well can pol weed mentat Frank's happy place is literally living out his dream in turning Canada into a weed paradise so

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
https://twitter.com/LJKawa/status/763743784983232512?s=09

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock


Who cares about Rob Ford

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
I just really like watching people smoke crack

Fluffy Chainsaw
Jul 6, 2016

I'm likely a pissant middle manager who pisses off IT with worthless requests. There is no content within my posts other than a garbage act akin to a know-it-all, which likely is how I behave in real life. It's really hard for me to comprehend how much I am hated by everyone.

Frosted Flake posted:

Not a whole lot different from what you might read around here. CBC was reporting they had to set off explosive devices? He already built the bomb I budss?

Which speaks volumes about the psyche and mental capacity of posters here. I wonder which LF superstar he was.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks
I'm torn between being highly skeptical of the RCMP's methods in 'terror' cases like this and thinking it's really no great loss that this fuckup got himself shot.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Lisi also got his extortion charges dropped and is being put on a peace bond.

I wonder how many canadians are on peace bond right now.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

:f5h::five:

Constant Hamprince
Oct 24, 2010

by exmarx
College Slice
Investing in peace bonds still seems safer than real estate.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Rob Ford was a shithead and now he's dead stop caring about Rob Ford.

Nocturtle
Mar 17, 2007

EvilJoven posted:

Rob Ford was a shithead and now he's dead stop caring about Rob Ford.

Rob Ford was a symptom of amalgamation. As long as degenerate suburbanites can vote there will always be another Rob Ford.

Nocturtle fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Aug 11, 2016

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

EvilJoven posted:

Rob Ford was a shithead and now he's dead stop caring about Rob Ford.

Yeah like I don't even care anymore.

Rather hilariously, BILD has won a reprieve from paying the development charges for the Ford Subway extension to Scarborough because they argued the ridership numbers don't warrant the cost. The OMB agreed.

I imagine we'll find out what the ONCA thinks in 12-18mos. The Ford saga never ends, it just makes lawyers rich.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe

Nocturtle posted:

Rob Ford was a symptom of amalgamation. As long as degenerate suburbanites can vote there will always be another Rob Ford.



Toronto is going to implode in on itself like a supernova of traffic jams and lovely decisions and it's going to be loving hilarious.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Can they bring back Metro Toronto?

Toronto having a special level of government was too perfect.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Nocturtle posted:

Rob Ford was a symptom of amalgamation. As long as degenerate suburbanites can vote there will always be another Rob Ford.



I realize now that being a block into York means that I have to start voting like an rear end in a top hat. :ohdear:

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Sweet, sweet double post.

Nocturtle
Mar 17, 2007

Frosted Flake posted:

Can they bring back Metro Toronto?

Nope, that's gone forever. Mike Harris won and he won completely. Let that wash over you NDP-loving downtown dwellers.

Dallan Invictus
Oct 11, 2007

The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes, look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.

jfood posted:

You'd figure the evidence used to secure a peace bond would also be sufficient for obtaining a search warrant to find said bomb-making stuff.

Seems to me like the point of the peace bond was that he wasn't building bombs yet so he couldn't be convicted of anything (and so there would have been nothing to find) but that they did have evidence it would likely he'd want to start at some point in the near future and managed to convince a judge to that effect.

(in that vein, the ruling from his constitutional challenge to the provision of C-51 that let the Crown peace bond him ishere - this isn't at a level of court that sets any kind of precedent and of course he's not going to be able to appeal anymore, so welp on to the next.)

Dallan Invictus fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Aug 11, 2016

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender

Nocturtle posted:

Nope, that's gone forever. Mike Harris won and he won completely. Let that wash over you NDP-loving downtown dwellers.

It's funny how Metro Toronto had built a new building for itself 5 years prior too.

The Dark One
Aug 19, 2005

I'm your friend and I'm not going to just stand by and let you do this!

https://twitter.com/goldsbie/status/763742541258690562

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich
I was wondering how long it would take for Doug Ford to try and spin this to his advantage.

The answer is about 2 hours.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/doug-ford-critical-of-video-release-1.3716863

quote:

Doug Ford blasted the release of a video showing his brother, the late councillor and former Toronto Mayor Rob Ford, smoking crack cocaine.

The video, which was recorded in 2013 while Ford was serving as mayor, was made public Thursday morning after a Superior Court judge lifted a publication ban on the evidence presented in the extortion case against Rob Ford's friend and former driver, Sandro Lisi.

"All it does is hurt Rob's family, hurts Rob's kids," Doug Ford told CBC News.

"We find it disgusting as a family."


tl;dr: :qq: normal rules of disclosure shouldn't apply to us, we're the Ford family!

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich
Somebody is going to write a really good thinkpiece one day about self-pity and the modern conservative. The Fords, like Trump, are always extremely quick to cast themselves the victim.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



The entire CBC comments section was people crying about how "ITS NOT FAIR TO THE FORDS".

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender
If it were some black kid they'd be going, "parents should have raised him better".

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

The Trudeau government is preparing to loosen the rules of the temporary foreign worker program. They think the Conservatives went too far in their efforts to protect workers.

quote:

The federal government is setting the stage for a loosening of temporary foreign worker rules after vocal complaints from Canadian employers that recent Conservative changes went too far.

A Liberal-dominated House of Commons committee has completed a report on options for altering the controversial program and will make the recommendations public next month when Parliament resumes.

The report is expected to acknowledge the need for temporary foreign workers in specific sectors and will stress the importance of providing foreign workers with options to become permanent Canadian residents. The number of foreign-worker approvals has been on the decline in recent years in light of a softer jobs market in some regions and tighter rules brought in by the Conservatives after high-profile allegations of abuse in the program.

The report by the human-resources committee was completed in June but wasn’t made public in time for the summer recess. The government has said it is waiting on those recommendations before moving ahead later this year with changes to the program. However, Immigration Minister John McCallum tipped the government’s hand this week in an interview with The Globe and Mail in China when he said the Liberal government will make it easier for companies to bring in foreign workers.

“We’re also going to reduce some of the barriers and the silly rules … in order to give companies freedom to bring in the best and the brightest,” said Mr. McCallum. “We’ll get rid of many of these [required] labour-market impact assessments which slow things down enormously.”

A spokesperson in Mr. McCallum’s office said the minister’s reference to silly rules relates to some of the restrictions that apply to visiting professors. The spokesperson also noted that the minister has said the government is looking at waving labour-market impact assessments in certain cases where that would help attract top talent to come to Canada.

“What the minister wants to do is just find a middle ground,” said the spokesperson.

A labour-market impact assessment is a government screening process designed to ensure there is a legitimate need for a temporary foreign worker and that no Canadian is available to do the job. The minister said the Conservative changes went too far and the Liberals are trying to strike an “intermediate” position. Government officials stressed Wednesday that no final decisions have been made.

Opposition MPs on the committee said Wednesday that the minister’s comments reflect the view of the Liberal majority that worked on the report.

Conservative MP Bob Zimmer, the committee vice-chair, said Mr. McCallum’s comments are “absolutely” in line with the conclusions of the yet-to-be-released study.

“The government was wanting to go in one specific direction and wanted the report to back them up,” he said. Mr. Zimmer said he agrees with the Liberals that there are some legitimate industry needs for foreign workers, but that requests need to be constantly weighed against economic realities.

“The conditions in our economy simply have changed,” he said. “He can’t just say broadly that we need them absolutely. We always need to be looking at what our economy is doing.”

From Atlantic fish processors to Vancouver-based yoga-wear retailer Lululemon Athletica Inc., committee members got an earful from industry groups complaining that the federal crackdown on the program in recent years was excessive.

“There is a critical talent shortage for key head-office positions,” Lululemon officials told MPs in a brief to the committee, pointing to design, product development and digital work as examples of skills shortages in the apparel industry. “The temporary foreign worker program is currently our primary recourse to address structural labour-market needs, yet the program is bureaucratic, sluggish and ill-equipped to meet the needs of high-skill, high-speed, globally competitive sectors.”

Liberals are the best choice for a true progressive government you guys. Real change for Canadians struggling to get ahead.

Juul-Whip fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Aug 11, 2016

Homeroom Fingering
Apr 25, 2009

The secret history (((they))) don't want you to know
It's probably the first time I agreed with anything that collection of Ford retards have said or done. He admitted it, and he's dead. I'm sure those that who were his political opponents don't care being he's dead and all. All releasing the video does is give hard ons to his Internet critics.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

tetsul posted:

It's probably the first time I agreed with anything that collection of Ford retards have said or done. He admitted it, and he's dead. I'm sure those that who were his political opponents don't care being he's dead and all. All releasing the video does is give hard ons to his Internet critics.

The video was evidence in court and we live in a country with open courts, ergo that information is available to the public.

Are you taking issue with having an open court system? Because I assure you the alternative is much worse.

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peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

THC posted:

The Trudeau government is preparing to loosen the rules of the temporary foreign worker program. They think the Conservatives went too far in their efforts to protect workers.


Liberals are the best choice for a true progressive government you guys. Real change for Canadians struggling to get ahead.

IDK, if it means agricultural workers who come here and pick our food, (because its genuinely a job Canadians won't do for any feasible pay) can become permanent residents, it's not as bad as you might think it is.

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