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StashAugustine posted:serious question: what do evangelicals think they'll get out of trump? do they not realize he's a massive loving conman and they're the easiest goddamn marks? For some, repealing the Johnson Amendment. For most, they don't give a poo poo who the Republican candidate is, they support him.
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Shageletic posted:I think you might want to watch the recent series of documentaries put out by the venerable channel Starz... lmbo rip Andy Whitfield 
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Mirthless posted:seriously there is no reason to do this in 2016 unless you have a serious, serious need to be a doctor or lawyer Sort of. I don't worry too much about college with quality consultants, but when we do data science placements....
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:fullsail is a scam for-profit 'university', getting an undergrad degree is still generally a positive expectation plan if you get it from a real university (yes, even in the humanities) Realistically, though, are those couple of years of college going to weigh more on your resume than two years of relevant job experience? My own experience says no, but I live and work in Oklahoma, so. 
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I'm surprised it's even that clo... Oh, Gravis. NM.
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LBJ took petty revenge on a nonprofit and somehow that's an unimpeachable law to you? What is the logical argument for muzzling the speaking rights of tax-exempt organizations? Don't get me wrong, I usually have a knee-jerk reaction against religion, but I don't see the logic here.
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I can't believe I'm hearing someone advocate for churches to be able to offer political endorsements without losing their tax exempt status.
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StashAugustine posted:serious question: what do evangelicals think they'll get out of trump? do they not realize he's a massive loving conman and they're the easiest goddamn marks? Their hope is that Trump will be a hands-off guy who delegates. Pence is an evangelical young earth creationist. With no strong leadership the FRC and other groups are hoping they can lean on his cabinet, or just outright stuff his cabinet with crazies.
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Wikkheiser posted:The assorted evangelical preachers and pastors endorsing Trump are also conmen and they want in on it. Yeah, this is the important thing to remember.
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i am taking out loans so i can be a public school teacher so i mean really i'm the dumbest
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Oiled and Ready posted:Did you really just threaten 18 an hour as the worst possible scenario, if so, lol good The best part about your character is economics degree. It's the masterstroke that makes your evaluation of acceptable debt joke really hit. Pray tell, what's the 5 year employment rate for your bargain school?
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Oiled and Ready posted:LBJ took petty revenge on a nonprofit and somehow that's an unimpeachable law to you? What is the logical argument for muzzling the speaking rights of tax-exempt organizations? If you want to mix politics and religions, that's fine, but you don't get to be tax exempt. Put your money where your mouth is. Yet, surprisingly, almost no church actually has the balls to do this. They aren't "muzzled" they're just cowards.
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Schnorkles posted:Sort of. I don't worry too much about college with quality consultants, but when we do data science placements.... Well there is always going to be jobs you absolutely need an education for! Just, for the run of the mill unskilled-skilled jobs that dominate the white collar fields these days, I don't really see the point. We're way, way past the days where an accountant or technician can only learn the skills they need through an intense degree program (just like we're way, way past the days where an accountant or technician could ever pay for their degree on the money they make from their job)
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StashAugustine posted:serious question: what do evangelicals think they'll get out of trump? do they not realize he's a massive loving conman and they're the easiest goddamn marks?  of it all. And as noted:Wikkheiser posted:The assorted evangelical preachers and pastors endorsing Trump are also conmen and they want in on it. thrawn527 posted:For some, repealing the Johnson Amendment. For most, they don't give a poo poo who the Republican candidate is, they support him.
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cams posted:i am taking out loans so i can be a public school teacher so i mean really i'm the dumbest At least your loans will be forgiven after 10 years and you won't owe tax on the forgiven amount.
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cams posted:i am taking out loans so i can be a public school teacher so i mean really i'm the dumbest Are you loving serious after calling me dumb are you serious right now
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StashAugustine posted:serious question: what do evangelicals think they'll get out of trump? do they not realize he's a massive loving conman and they're the easiest goddamn marks? Money Gospel enthusiasts are ATMs for hucksters both political and spiritual.
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Mirthless posted:Realistically, though, are those couple of years of college going to weigh more on your resume than two years of relevant job experience? My own experience says no, but I live and work in Oklahoma, so. For some jobs it can take the place of experience, though. As in, it can solve the paradox of "I need experience to get experience" when finding your first real job. I know I wouldn't have gotten my first job in Software Development without my degree in Computer Engineering. Sure, there are other ways to get your foot in the door. But a college degree proves that you can complete a college program. As in, it shows you can dedicate yourself to something longterm, and are trainable. From there, they can train you to do what they want you to do. No idea how true this is outside of software development, and yes like I said there are other ways to get in (get a job with someone you know, have them train you, etc.). But it's a "I can hire you for our entry level stuff" sign on a resume for my field, I've found.
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cams posted:i am taking out loans so i can be a public school teacher so i mean really i'm the dumbest Don't be a schoolteacher, schoolteachers are going to be poo poo on by every politician and pundit from here to Christmas for not producing miracles out of nothing. Go into corporate training or something like that, make some real money and deal with 1/10th the poo poo.
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God I just realized he talks like Jimmy from South Park doing standup. "Did ya see this... did you hear about this..."
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Why are churches tax exempt?
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Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world... but for Trump?
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evangelicals like the the founders of isis line more than the home builders meeting earlier
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mango sentinel posted:Why are churches tax exempt? Ostensibly because they provide a public service.
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mango sentinel posted:Why are churches tax exempt? Those are donations, friend, not highly incentivized and incredibly expensive salvation and feel good programs.
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mango sentinel posted:Why are churches tax exempt? you would tax God? blasphemy.... *counts wad of cash under cleric robes* 
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Oiled and Ready posted:Are you loving serious after calling me dumb are you serious right now More public school teachers benefits society
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Oiled and Ready posted:LBJ took petty revenge on a nonprofit and somehow that's an unimpeachable law to you? What is the logical argument for muzzling the speaking rights of tax-exempt organizations? The Catholic Church is the biggest land-owner in America. I don't have a problem with them exercising their free speech. I have a problem with the very concept of tax-exempt status for religious organizations.
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Mirthless posted:Realistically, though, are those couple of years of college going to weigh more on your resume than two years of relevant job experience? My own experience says no, but I live and work in Oklahoma, so. empirical data says yes, though (at least for 4-year degrees, idk about associate's). there are a lot of jobs that simply will not hire anyone without a BA (or experience that's hard to get without the BA), and this is more true for higher-paying jobs (and most of these jobs don't require any *specific* BA) this is on average, so it doesn't mean that you personally would have done better if you'd gotten a degree or anything. it's not a good idea to over-rely on personal experience when answering questions like these
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mango sentinel posted:Like an hour ago Rush was talking about how Trump's 2nd amendment comment was taken out of context, but Hillary's rhetoric is actually gonna get Trump killed. He repeatedly cited Scott Adams through this segment. He's died a thousand deaths over the last decade or so but this is the one I like best. Edit; now I'm having an internal debate over this or the time when his producer had to save him from himself when he started talking about his love for the Lords Resistance Army. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Aug 11, 2016 |
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Apparently today is Double Down Day. https://twitter.com/JDiamond1/status/763815314261962753
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mango sentinel posted:Why are churches tax exempt? The power to tax is the power to destroy. It's a grand bargain of separation of church and state. We don't tax churches and churches
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Mirthless posted:Well there is always going to be jobs you absolutely need an education for! Just, for the run of the mill unskilled-skilled jobs that dominate the white collar fields these days, I don't really see the point. We're way, way past the days where an accountant or technician can only learn the skills they need through an intense degree program (just like we're way, way past the days where an accountant or technician could ever pay for their degree on the money they make from their job) And with the aforementioned law profession, there are a lot of degree fields that are too saturated. And then there's the issue that not everyone is cut out for taking on loads of debt and going to college and working in those fields. A lot of people just plain ain't. Not everyone can be a software engineer. Higher education is caught in a contradiction because it's trying to appeal to the broad masses of people, which it isn't really cut out to do. And while the Democrats are clearly the better of the two parties, the emphasis on ("egalitarian") higher education for all (while sound in theory) isn't going to lead to a sustainable middle-class life for all when most of the growth industries -- according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics -- do not require higher education. For instance retail jobs far and away exceed software in growth. But those jobs pay poo poo and usually don't provide anything in the way of benefits or profit sharing. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Aug 11, 2016 |
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"I really haven't started yet."
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Slate Action posted:Apparently today is Double Down Day. reince: no
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Slate Action posted:Apparently today is Double Down Day. lmao
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Subterfrugal posted:The best part about your character is economics degree. It's the masterstroke that makes your evaluation of acceptable debt joke really hit. Pray tell, what's the 5 year employment rate for your bargain school? Full time long term (BAR passage) listed at 61.7%. This does include paid clerkships that last at least one year, but that appears to be only 7% of that 61.7%. An additional 12% underemployed, the rest either failed the BAR or got hosed I guess.
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What I've learned from this thread: Don't go to law school Don't be a public school teacher Short Soybean Futures Profit.
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So much for my post linking presidential voting and down-ballot races (I posted that here, right?): https://twitter.com/PoliticoScott/status/763792785057148928
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Oiled and Ready posted:Are you loving serious after calling me dumb are you serious right now Nitrousoxide posted:At least your loans will be forgiven after 10 years and you won't owe tax on the forgiven amount. Zeroisanumber posted:Don't be a schoolteacher, schoolteachers are going to be poo poo on by every politician and pundit from here to Christmas for not producing miracles out of nothing. Go into corporate training or something like that, make some real money and deal with 1/10th the poo poo. plus these days when you tell people you want to teach public school, they act like you just volunteered to go back in time and fight for the union in the civil war. i like that.
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