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Listening to Juke-Joint Jezebel ... and it's just stupendously awesome.
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Aug 11, 2016 05:18
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Those DEATH TO FALSE EBM shirts are by the I Die: You Die guys, are a joke based on a Manowar shirt, and are an extremely obvious joke.The Cleaner posted:I remember an interview with Skinny Puppy where they said that there was nothing to do back in 1981 other than do drugs, watch horror movies and play with keyboards. For non-musicians, you went to night clubs to watch those people play. And cocaine. The younger crowd is generally notable for having zero cash or free time, let alone cash and free time for hanging out in bars.
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Aug 11, 2016 06:22
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Pope Guilty posted:Those DEATH TO FALSE EBM shirts are by the I Die: You Die guys, are a joke based on a Manowar shirt, and are an extremely obvious joke. It was hilarious when they first posted them online, because a fair amount of folk were unaware of Manowar and completely missed the joke.
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Aug 11, 2016 07:46
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I'm pretty sure I've seen the shirt it's referencing, but I can't for the life of me find it online. Anyone have a link?
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Aug 11, 2016 12:11
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KillHour posted:I'm pretty sure I've seen the shirt it's referencing, but I can't for the life of me find it online. Anyone have a link? 
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Aug 11, 2016 13:51
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divabot posted:Probably around 1979. The big mistakes were: I saw this Dead When I Found Her facebook post today and it made me think of your post 
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Aug 11, 2016 20:56
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Pope Guilty posted:The younger crowd is generally notable for having zero cash or free time, let alone cash and free time for hanging out in bars. Zero cash, I agree. But they have alot of time. It's just that in 2016, they have a million more options than beer at a lovely bar or drugs at a lovely club. Anyway new PIG is... decent. I mean it's beyond a decade too late, but I can't wait to scratch catching Watts live off my bucket list. teethgrinder posted:Do you live in Toronto? Let's get some drinks and talk the genre Woe add me on facebook first, I'm not that kinda girl
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Aug 11, 2016 21:28
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In other news, I am super excited about seeing Dead When I Found Her, Me The Tiger, Tapewyrm and Atari Teenage Riot live at Infest in a fortnight!  Curious about seeing 3Teeth live, PWEI 2.0 or whatever they are, Displacer and a couple of other bands.
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Aug 11, 2016 21:37
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Frankly, fire was a mistake. The Cleaner posted:Zero cash, I agree. But they have alot of time. It's just that in 2016, they have a million more options than beer at a lovely bar or drugs at a lovely club. well yeah. Back in the day, your options were three channels of lovely TV or go out and drink and dance with your friends. Now, it's the whole internet and all your friends, or go out and drink and dance with people you can't click "block" on. And back to music that's new and actually good: I stumbled over Boy Harsher the other day. Yr Body Is Nothing is not quite EBM, but people keep comparing them to EBM. I'd say if you told me this had come out in 1982, I'd believe you.
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Aug 11, 2016 22:13
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The Cleaner posted:Woe add me on facebook first, I'm not that kinda girl 
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Aug 11, 2016 22:19
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teethgrinder posted:I hesitate to call them terrible, but they're mostly pretty samey and forgettable. A stable line-up is the worst thing to happen to KMFDM. Yeah, "terrible" may be a bit strong, but I agree that they were a lot better when there were more talented weirdos cycling in and out, and like CAT rear end said, when their albums each seemed to have a unique character. I'm listening to ADIOS right now and gently caress do I ever like "Full Worm Garden," among others.
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Aug 12, 2016 03:31
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That song and R. U. OK took forever to grow on me. But I love'm now. That album was weirdly a mixed bag to me when it came out, but I really like every track on it now for one reason or another. Today and That's All really stood out for me from the beginning, but I appreciate that not all fans at that time would dig them.
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Aug 12, 2016 03:39
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teethgrinder posted:That song and R. U. OK took forever to grow on me. But I love'm now. I agree 100% and to me it's actually one of the most consistent records they've done. I was always really in to punk and hardcore, along with some more post-punk/gothic rock stuff, so I had no preconceived notions of KMFDM or what it meant to be a "true" fan when I first heard them, so to me ADIOS was always a good record, as was SYMBOLS.
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Aug 12, 2016 03:47
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I think at this point Adios might be my favorite KMFDM album. That's All is such a great song. Years ago when it came up I remember the original track order was posted and it kills me that I didn't write it down. The only thing I remembered was the album opened up with D.I.Y. and ended with Adios. It was kind of cool there were so many of these rotating cast industrial supergroups and side projects in the 90s. I've been on a Pigface kick lately. Fook is so solid.
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Aug 12, 2016 12:20
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Hah. One of the dumber decisions I made at 19 was following Pigface around with a group of friends to various shows -- traveling way too far in the process -- and annoying (not intentionally, I swear) the poo poo out of En Esch. He's performing with Watts and it would be extremely self-absorbed to think he'll recognize me in the crowd 12 years later, but if he does, RIP me. Dude is a beast. He once jumped out of a burning building from the fourth floor and hit concrete ... and lived. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 12:53 on Aug 12, 2016 |
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Aug 12, 2016 12:49
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Zyklon B Zombie posted:I think at this point Adios might be my favorite KMFDM album. That's All is such a great song. Years ago when it came up I remember the original track order was posted and it kills me that I didn't write it down. The only thing I remembered was the album opened up with D.I.Y. and ended with Adios. Adios is one of those albums where the actual order of the tracks works to make the album worse. Adios is a great opener, but why would you immediately suck out all the viciousness of the album with a lame turd like Sycophant? Why on earth would you end the album with Bereit when you have That's All (or D.I.Y which would also be a great way to end the album after That's All since it sticks out so much from the rest of the album)? What were they thinking? I'm a firm believer in albums having a beginning and an end and a logical progression of songs. Adios has some great material but it really suffers from the way it's presented because it just feels like a bunch of disjointed stuff thrown together with no consideration of how it flows. a cyborg mug fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Aug 12, 2016 |
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Aug 12, 2016 13:45
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It would be rad if someone could dig up the fixed track order for Adios. Track order is something I never mess with on my own or even think about that much, but I'm sure it can have a significant impact. On a similar note, Covenant's Leaving Babylon was apparently released with a draft song order. I'll post the supposedly correct one when I'm not on my phone. I can't remember which forum I got it from; either this one or Mindphaser before it died and was reborn as whatever it currently is (is it an official site now??).
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Aug 12, 2016 14:22
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david_a posted:It would be rad if someone could dig up the fixed track order for Adios. Track order is something I never mess with on my own or even think about that much, but I'm sure it can have a significant impact. I think track order is a fascinating, often overlooked element that can really have an impact on what kind of an effect a music recording has. It's something I've started thinking about a lot ever since I started making music myself and when playing live. I want all of my live sets, no matter how long, to have a flow much like an album to them as well. Some tracks belong in the first half whereas some can only ever be played among the last because they would be out of place anywhere else etc. Especially in cases where it's obvious the artist wasn't sure what order to put the tracks in it's an interesting exercise to think about if it could've been better otherwise. This mostly applies to albums that are just "a bunch of new songs" instead of a carefully planned, conceptual whole (eg. DWIFH's latest album).
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Aug 12, 2016 14:47
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Prop Wash posted:I saw this Dead When I Found Her facebook post today and it made me think of your post Man now I want a shirt that says DRUM MACHINE MUST BE STOPPED
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Aug 12, 2016 15:54
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Here is the alternate track order for Covenant - Leaving Babylon before I forget: 1) Leaving Babylon 2) Prime Movers 3) For Our Time 4) They Kingdom Come 5) I Walk Slow 6) Ignorance & Bliss 7) Last Dance 8) Auto (Circulation) 9) Not to Be Here 10) Leaving Babylon II
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Aug 12, 2016 18:17
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teethgrinder posted:Ha ... I actually did buy a drink for your bandmate at the Artoffact showcase however many years ago Oh at Neutral? that was you?? You made his night. We felt awkward (always do) but you totally upped his mood and if anything gave him a rock-star complex which I'm still dealing with.
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Aug 12, 2016 20:59
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david_a posted:Here is the alternate track order for Covenant - Leaving Babylon before I forget: It's not much of an alternate track order since it's the exact same as what was released 
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Aug 12, 2016 21:09
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I know Trent Reznor called in Bob Ezrin and worked for like 2 weeks to get the track order of the Fragile correct.
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Aug 12, 2016 21:20
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Zyklon B Zombie posted:Fook is so solid. Word! It's such an amazing thing and it pretty much blew the mind of early 20's me. Easily my favorite studio LP from them, and it's not just because I'm biased toward Ogre and Connelly, for which I think their best output in that project is on this record. "I Can Do No Wrong" is killer, and that dark magic of Atkins drums plus Ogre doing his thing on "Insemination" is godly. Seeing Esch and Ogre sing "Go" on that tour whilst on some illicit substances is one of my favorite blurry memories. Also. Lesley. loving. Rankine.
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Aug 12, 2016 21:46
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CAT rear end now!!! posted:It's not much of an alternate track order since it's the exact same as what was released
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Aug 12, 2016 22:42
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david_a posted:Not according to Amazon and Metropolis. Was there another release with this order? Oh, that's actually quite interesting - it looks like there are two different track orders for the European and US releases. The alternative one you posted is the one found in the European versions.
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Aug 12, 2016 22:51
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The Cleaner posted:Oh at Neutral? that was you?? You made his night. We felt awkward (always do) but you totally upped his mood and if anything gave him a rock-star complex which I'm still dealing with. Weirdly no electro-industrial festival in Toronto this year, though we're getting VNV, A23 and 3Teeth shows (going to miss 3Teeth unfortunately due to TURF). hatelull posted:Word! It's such an amazing thing and it pretty much blew the mind of early 20's me. Easily my favorite studio LP from them, and it's not just because I'm biased toward Ogre and Connelly, for which I think their best output in that project is on this record. "I Can Do No Wrong" is killer, and that dark magic of Atkins drums plus Ogre doing his thing on "Insemination" is godly. Seeing Esch and Ogre sing "Go" on that tour whilst on some illicit substances is one of my favorite blurry memories. My first experience with Lesley loving Rankine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8b3MOtw-4E
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Aug 12, 2016 23:00
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CAT rear end now!!! posted:Oh, that's actually quite interesting - it looks like there are two different track orders for the European and US releases. The alternative one you posted is the one found in the European versions. Wasn't Cleopatra the old record label that was notorious for loving up track listings?
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Aug 13, 2016 00:14
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david_a posted:I didn't realize people still bothered doing that. I think the implication from where I got the list from was that Metropolis screwed up and used a draft order, but I don't know how likely that is. And loving up the idea of compilations, and tribute albums, and covers and.... Hey, did anybody else know that motherfucking Clock DVA is touring?! They're coming to Denver! 
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Aug 13, 2016 03:55
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CAT rear end now!!! posted:Adios is one of those albums where the actual order of the tracks works to make the album worse. Adios is a great opener, but why would you immediately suck out all the viciousness of the album with a lame turd like Sycophant? Why on earth would you end the album with Bereit when you have That's All (or D.I.Y which would also be a great way to end the album after That's All since it sticks out so much from the rest of the album)? What were they thinking? I agree with this, too, even though I think it's a collection of very strong songs the sequencing is pretty bad. This is pretty nerdy but off the top of my head, the album would run this way: DIY Today Sycophant Full Worm Garden Witness That's All Bereit R U OK? Rubicon Adios This is a tough album to sequence, though. Witness and Sycophant are particularly tough to place. PinkoBastard fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Aug 13, 2016 |
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Prop Wash posted:I saw this Dead When I Found Her facebook post today and it made me think of your post
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Aug 13, 2016 06:47
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The Singing Chav posted:Man now I want a shirt that says DRUM MACHINE MUST BE STOPPED There is no way that the person who did this is not here in this room right now.
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Aug 13, 2016 14:49
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teethgrinder posted:My first experience with Lesley loving Rankine: That's funny, mine was this one! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYvYk972hac (Yeah I'm showing my age)
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Aug 13, 2016 17:00
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Wow sellout! I have never really been aware of Silverfish or Ruby ... need to find their albums somewhere. Only Ruby's Short-Staffed At The Gene Pool is on Spotify. New A23 is out to backers. It's ... an A23 album! It started sounding a bit more unique to me by track 4, 'Salt the Earth'. It's not bad by any means, and I'm sure I'll come to really enjoy it a lot after more listens.
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Aug 15, 2016 14:20
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This is hilarious, and clicking thru to its creators tumblr they are apparently a Seattle dwelling Transbian. Sounds about right.
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Aug 16, 2016 05:59
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We should merge the goth rock and industrial threads in a great act of thread unity. So I stumbled across this French retrowave-ish band that actually makes me kinda like retrowave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5rus7Dhpzs That artwork is killer. It's like goth David Hasselhoff. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Aug 17, 2016 |
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Aug 17, 2016 17:57
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New 3Teeth sounds absolutely identical to 90 industrial rock. Like, identical to me. If you didn't know who this was, you'd expect to find it on a late 90s/early 00s film soundtrack or compilation along with Gravity Kills, Chemlab, 16Volt and Devotion Records acts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uabChNfWAcM I would have been all over this in the late 90s. (I am not objecting to anything about a band deliberately adopting a retro style, I'd note - I like way too much old school EBM to do that)
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I have been an on UNGODLY massive retro Skinny Puppy kick lately. It's like I got shoved into a time warp back into 1989 or something. Help me  I'm also pretty out of the loop on modern industrial, so if anyone's got stuff I haven't heard before that captures that same flavour, I'd totally appreciate it. In the meantime I'm listening to The Choke for like the 7th time this week, and that's after I listened to Too Dark Park twice already in full today.
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Fenrir posted:I have been an on UNGODLY massive retro Skinny Puppy kick lately. It's like I got shoved into a time warp back into 1989 or something. Help me Youth Code. Dead When I Found Her. They both have a strong Skuppy influence.
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