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Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



Dias posted:

I disagree there, 30 to 60 is a pretty big gap for comp if you take a gander at the bell curve. If it ends up putting mid-40s against those guys, bleh.

it doesn't tho, 2 60s and a 30 would average out to like 50 so they'd be in that range for matchmaking. the difference between 50 and 60 isn't that big and if that 29 dude is legit, they are basically a man down because that's absurdly low. if he's not, it'd be a problem that you don't fix by screwing a bunch of people out of playing together

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Sancho
Jul 18, 2003

The controversial method is called smurfing or something like that where the rank 29 guys are actually rank 70+ guys on alt accounts. Blizzard gives some sort of underdog bonus or dumb poo poo like that.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



the underdog bonus is for the lower team average dude, the team with the highest ranking player can still be the underdogs

changing the range of play doesn't change that people will lower their rank intentionally. they'll do it anyway

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

pakman posted:

TviQue stream is saying that all comp servers are 60 tick now. Was there a stealth patch?

Is there some evidence? Personally my friend and I always found hit reg a lot smoother and better in comp than QM which felt janky and iffy. Now I doubt they actually had different settings, so w/e

Sancho
Jul 18, 2003

It is just bullshit to get like 1/20 of a rank after beating an 'underdog' team full of level 29 overwatch savants. They need to overhaul that poo poo entirely IMO.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

:siren::supaburn::zenpop::dva::siren:
https://twitter.com/PlayOverwatch/status/763876458066419712
Friendly reminder to cast your vote for who to send to the Overwatch World Cup!

You choose 4, so as predicted by another goon, the last two spots on the roster for each team are likely reserved for a community personality/streamer, and the top regional online leaderboard warrior. I voted for C9 Adam, NRG Seagull, NRG Gods, and Envy Talespin. :allears:

Night Blade
Feb 25, 2013

Is there any way to deal with people who use the prefer player feature to grief people?

A good portion of my games tonight have been with this guy who throws games on purpose. A second prestige level 30ish player who makes deliberately bad picks, plays badly, and griefs with Symmetra by using her teleporter on cliffs.

sleppy
Dec 25, 2008

teagone posted:

You choose 4, so as predicted by another goon, the last two spots on the roster for each team are likely reserved for a community personality/streamer, and the top regional online leaderboard warrior. I voted for C9 Adam, NRG Seagull, NRG Gods, and Envy Talespin. :allears:

Bacontotem is the fifth and sixth on two computers.

Thor-Stryker
Nov 11, 2005

Manatee Cannon posted:

nah that's lame, I shouldn't be barred from playing with my friends because you had one bad game

like yea it sucks that someone tanked their rank to be dicks to people that aren't good, but that's gonna happen either way

The problem is the 55-60 range is filled with these teams since most of the upper range players are 60-70 legit and dropping into lower tier matches to mop.


Most people don't grasp the skill disparity between ranks 50 and 58-59, and 58-59 compared to 65.

A rank 50 Mcree is pretty derpy.
A rank 58 Mcree gets in some good body shots and can kill flying pharahs.
A rank 65+ Mcree is the hand of god and make you fear open spaces more than Widowmaker.

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

Do you think Blizzard could implement a feature where, if your team won't get on the loving payload even though there's 30 seconds left and you're ten feet from the final objective, everyone who wasn't near the payload when you lose the match gets their buttholes electrocuted until they piss steam?

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus
I wish my screenshot hadn't been messed up. We had a map to escort some car. And a bastion went into turret mode on top of the car. Reinhardt jumped up behind and put up a shield and I followed nearby as Mercy using Upgrade on the turret and we just rolled through the whole thing killing everything. I'm surprised the game lets you be "on" the car.

Again this is in the <10 level range. I'm sure some high level team would have cleared us off with ease.

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

teagone posted:

:siren::supaburn::zenpop::dva::siren:
https://twitter.com/PlayOverwatch/status/763876458066419712
Friendly reminder to cast your vote for who to send to the Overwatch World Cup!

You choose 4, so as predicted by another goon, the last two spots on the roster for each team are likely reserved for a community personality/streamer, and the top regional online leaderboard warrior. I voted for C9 Adam, NRG Seagull, NRG Gods, and Envy Talespin. :allears:

IIRC MoonMoon confirmed he was one of the 2 "personalities" invited to go but was unable due to some family poo poo

Voted for Seagull/Lassiz/Adam/Debett

Bolow fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Aug 12, 2016

2MB
Feb 3, 2009

"No need to speak. Your fists told me everything I need to know about you."
I have gotten Zarya's and Tracer's summer skins about 4 times each now. I don't need them anymore game thanks just give me genji and mcree fffffffff

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

Got the D.Va skin finally. Hard choice between that White Rabbi or Carbon Fiber

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

2MB posted:

I have gotten Zarya's and Tracer's summer skins about 4 times each now. I don't need them anymore game thanks just give me genji and mcree fffffffff

I got Mercy's, a character who is not only dumpster tier but also boring as poo poo. And I don't even really like her Rio skin.

But I got Dva White Rabbit in the same box so it's all good.

Today a gold popped out of a box but it was one of Ana's young skins. I had already bought her Merciful skin cause it owns.

Oh also Ana is fun as poo poo to play as even if she's not as good as Zen/Lucio

Roundup Ready
Mar 10, 2004

ACCIDENTAL SHIT POSTER


I propose a new rule. Anyone who bitches about their teammates holding them back has to 1v1 someone of the rank they think they deserve. Like q3 or ut so they can't blame ults like every pissbaby seems to do.

Schneider Inside Her
Aug 6, 2009

Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman
You guys have to understand that a character being 'dumpster tier' does not apply to you. Literally play whatever character you want. You are not good enough for it to matter.

Minorkos
Feb 20, 2010

redweird posted:

You guys have to understand that a character being 'dumpster tier' does not apply to you. Literally play whatever character you want. You are not good enough for it to matter.

unless you're above rank 55

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Minorkos posted:

unless you're above rank 55

You are going to be just fine with 'dumpster tier' heroes in 60-70 rank games.

Minorkos
Feb 20, 2010

try picking bastion or hanjo in rank 70 games and see where that takes u lmao

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

Now I know I'm crap, I'm probably the reason some of my comp games have been lost.

I'd like to get better, I think I need to have more situational awareness and logistical thinking about counters instead of running on all guns blazing.

The problem is that's what I enjoy most. It's kind of fun in the 30's

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Minorkos posted:

try picking bastion or hanjo in rank 70 games and see where that takes u lmao

I see Bastions and Hanzos in those games (relatively) often. The players who play 'bad' heroes tend to be really good with them.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
I knocked five people off a cliff to their demise in a single Lucio boop. :c00l:

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
I find it hard to believe a Mercy pick will consistently lose you games in the 50s, even in the 60s.

LCL-Dead
Apr 22, 2014

Grimey Drawer

Papercut posted:

In the first 20 minutes you're playing a bunch of classes that I'm terrible with, so I can't really comment on that. But at about 19:20 your whole team (and you) are trickling into King's Row A to save a point that you've already lost, and even burn TWO support ults to try to save it. That's not necessarily your fault, but if the offense wins that first push and has 4+ people on the point and you're all coming back from spawn, it's time to fall back and setup your defense for the next checkpoint. And you especially shouldn't be burning ults in a desperate attempt to save it. What ended up happening is your entire team was then in a staggered spawn for the next point, and you were down 2 support ults for no reason. The other team wasn't good enough to capitalize, but that's the sort of thing that will get you steamrolled by good players.

At the 24:00 mark in that same defense, your team pushes way too far forward for no reason. The Rein is practically in the tunnel. Setting up that far forward just shortens the attackers' trip back from spawn without giving you any defensive advantage. That alone almost cost you the point.

e: I just watched your offense on that match. Ouch. Don't waste Roadhog's hook on Rein's shield. After you failed to kill Tracer, you came out of the point and had Junkrat 1 shot from death, but instead of finishing the kill you changed focus to S76 and they both ended up surviving. Your team was just kind of a mess, even when you guys would get 2 picks, everyone just sort of stood around doing nothing; when you get a numbers advantage tell people and push in. You charged into S76's ult instead of just backing into cover. With 30 seconds left, you switched off to Torbjorn for the final push for some reason, didn't stay with your team, and immediately died (twice). That whole round wasn't your fault, but your team was basically running around like a chicken with its head cut off. :(

Yeah, that Kings Row run was probably the worst I've ever played. Thanks for the advice though.

Papercut posted:

When you played Zen, you were really slow with your discord/harmony orbs. They're basically instantaneous now, so you should pretty much always discord first then fire, no matter who you're firing at. If you see the red cross icon on a teammate, stop firing and toss them a harmony.

I rarely ever play Zen, but someone had asked for him that round so I figured "Why the hell not?" and decided to give him a go. I think I'm going to need to rebind some keys if I really want to get good with him, since the constant shifting to "E" to drop discord on people really fucks with my finger placement on wasd. Thanks for the tips.

Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames

Jastiger posted:

Verranicus when you were silenced did group chat still work for you?

I literally never used it so I have no idea, sorry.

Thor-Stryker
Nov 11, 2005
Edit: f:wrong thread, phone app corruption is bad mmkay.

Thor-Stryker fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Aug 12, 2016

Mystic Stylez
Dec 19, 2009

Thor-Stryker posted:

All I know is I'm tired of the "Elves were super OP but their ways let Humans take over." Trope that every game with elves uses.

Who started that poo poo, the Nordic Saga's don't detail Alf society and it annoys me that people are basically repeating fiction of a fiction aka Fan fiction.

Yeah Overwatch could use less elves

Kerrzhe
Nov 5, 2008

Thor-Stryker posted:

All I know is I'm tired of the "Elves were super OP but their ways let Humans take over." Trope that every game with elves uses.

Who started that poo poo, the Nordic Saga's don't detail Alf society and it annoys me that people are basically repeating fiction of a fiction aka Fan fiction.

this is an elf free zone, friend. you're safe here.

Mystic Stylez
Dec 19, 2009

Alf society hasn't been the same after Michu Meszaros died

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



Dias posted:

I find it hard to believe a Mercy pick will consistently lose you games in the 50s, even in the 60s.

mercy won't lose you games, 50/60 isn't so high that you have to worry about her getting shut down all the time

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Thor-Stryker posted:

All I know is I'm tired of the "Elves were super OP but their ways let Humans take over." Trope that every game with elves uses.

Who started that poo poo, the Nordic Saga's don't detail Alf society and it annoys me that people are basically repeating fiction of a fiction aka Fan fiction.

The answer is always Tolkien. Most fantasy writers have problems doing anything that isn't straight up aping Tolkien.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Sancho posted:

It is just bullshit to get like 1/20 of a rank after beating an 'underdog' team full of level 29 overwatch savants. They need to overhaul that poo poo entirely IMO.

If a rank 29 wins games against rank 50+ he's not going to be rank 29 for very long. If you win then who gives a poo poo, play more games

Night Blade posted:

Is there any way to deal with people who use the prefer player feature to grief people?

A good portion of my games tonight have been with this guy who throws games on purpose. A second prestige level 30ish player who makes deliberately bad picks, plays badly, and griefs with Symmetra by using her teleporter on cliffs.

Report them, then after the game ends, wait a couple minutes before you queue again so they get matched into a different game?

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Am I the only one who likes to prefer people who get really angry during games? I find them hilarious and really fun to troll.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

Andrast posted:

Am I the only one who likes to prefer people who get really angry during games? I find them hilarious and really fun to troll.

Not when it is every game.

tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005



LCL-Dead posted:

I rarely ever play Zen, but someone had asked for him that round so I figured "Why the hell not?" and decided to give him a go. I think I'm going to need to rebind some keys if I really want to get good with him, since the constant shifting to "E" to drop discord on people really fucks with my finger placement on wasd. Thanks for the tips.

Bind Discord to RMB. Move Zen's charge attack to something like MMB Hold Down. Leave Harmony on shift.

LCL-Dead
Apr 22, 2014

Grimey Drawer

Totally TWISTED posted:

Bind Discord to RMB. Move Zen's charge attack to something like MMB Hold Down. Leave Harmony on shift.

Can you rebind for individual characters or will I be looking at E being on RMB for all character use?

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

LCL-Dead posted:

Can you rebind for individual characters or will I be looking at E being on RMB for all character use?

When looking at the controls there's a drop-down menu in the top-right corner for character specific controls. Those will not overwrite your general controls, they'll just apply when you play that character.

I have Zenyatta's discord on RMB, harmony on E and the alt/charge attack on shift. Works wonders for me, especially since they buffed the travel speed of his orbs.

LCL-Dead
Apr 22, 2014

Grimey Drawer
Thanks for the info!

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Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
The more I play the more convinced I am that they went too far with DVa's buff. Her shield should scoop up everything, but it shouldn't be able to be constantly spammed. It should have to hit a minimum threshold before it can be used again once its depleted, or even has to recharge to max again, OR it should go down based on the intensity of the fire its taking. Its just too strong in that it can eat EVERYTHING with minimal effort on the part of the dva. Eats CCs, damage, etc, it shouldn't be just a one way ticket to shutting down the entire defensive/offensive push.

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