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Nonexistence posted:Just curious, and I know it varies wildly person to person, but what do people view as "bad grades in law school?" Outside the top third? Bottom 50%? Bottom 10%? depends on the school, grades that are considered good at a top school will get your resume instantly binned at a lower school
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Aug 11, 2016 13:44
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Nonexistence posted:Just curious, and I know it varies wildly person to person, but what do people view as "bad grades in law school?" Outside the top third? Bottom 50%? Bottom 10%? Bottom 90% for most schools.
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Aug 11, 2016 15:29
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anything lower than what you got.
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Aug 11, 2016 15:49
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Any GPA that prevents you from getting a job.
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Aug 11, 2016 16:18
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I'd consider a "bad" grade to be anything outside the top half of the class. Depending on the curve that could be a C (a resume killer) or a B (congrats on skating by!)
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Aug 11, 2016 16:38
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The loving administrative side of this job is killing me. For real, if I have an email correspondence with the court coordinator and I say this date and the other side says ok, I shouldn't have to submit a loving notice of hearing.
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Aug 11, 2016 20:02
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CaptainScraps posted:The loving administrative side of this job is killing me. Just automate it
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Aug 11, 2016 20:31
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CaptainScraps posted:The loving administrative side of this job is killing me. Just put an informational entry into the court's docket with no corresponding document. as if
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Aug 11, 2016 20:38
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New career opportunity for law school graduates: Pokémon Go player! https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1495920/teacher-quits-her-job-to-become-britains-first-full-time-pokemon-go-player/ joat mon fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Aug 11, 2016 |
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Aug 11, 2016 21:19
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CaptainScraps posted:The loving administrative side of this job is killing me. Today I had a scheduling conference to set deadlines. It was pouring rain this morning but I checked and the order setting the conference specifically said that all counsel must appear in person. So I called and talked to the clerk, asked if we all agree could we do the conference by phone or all agree on deadlines and submit a proposed scheduling order, and she said "no, the judge wants everyone here in person." So I got my rear end to the court in the pouring rain, we pulled another lawyer out of trial for this conference, and the three of us go in there. Naturally our judge herself was actually in trial too, so the clerk hands us a form with blank dates and says "you guys fill out the dates you want and bring it back, and the judge will sign it later and send you a copy." Definitely necessary for three lawyers to bill their clients for coming to court in the rain.
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Aug 11, 2016 23:39
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I had a trial today against a pro se corporation. Except corporations cannot appear pro se. Boy, offering those exhibits sure was easy.
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Aug 11, 2016 23:44
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:I had a trial today against a pro se corporation. Except corporations cannot appear pro se. How were you unable to default them before it got to trial?
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Aug 11, 2016 23:48
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Weird procedural rule, expedited trial setting. Basically, it was an appeal from justice court, where corporations can appear pro se, to a real court, where they can't. Answer from the justice court stands in real court, so I cannot default. And the judge set it within 10 days of appeal, so no time to default.
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Aug 11, 2016 23:52
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I'm listening to a lawyer who owns "the largest bankruptcy firm in Texas" bragging about how much he works while we sit at the gate waiting for the plane to board. Oh god its awful.
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Aug 12, 2016 02:54
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Lote posted:I'm listening to a lawyer who owns "the largest bankruptcy firm in Texas" bragging about how much he works while we sit at the gate waiting for the plane to board. Oh god its awful. If it's the guy I think it is, I walked out of an interview with that guy as a 3L because he was chugging two different monster energy drinks at the same time while calling me a liar.
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Aug 12, 2016 13:54
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CaptainScraps posted:The loving administrative side of this job is killing me. An admin can be had for $10-12 an hour. Bill him/her at $100.00 = profit and less headaches. Edit: except when your partner fucks you and you have to scramble for payroll. Roger_Mudd fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Aug 12, 2016 |
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Aug 12, 2016 13:57
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Roger_Mudd posted:If it's the guy I think it is, I walked out of an interview with that guy as a 3L because he was chugging two different monster energy drinks at the same time while calling me a liar. He was bragging and complaining at the same time about how much work there was. Kinda like how finance associates bragplain about having to work 80-100 hr weeks. I wanted to reenact the scene from Airplane.
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Aug 12, 2016 19:09
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Lote posted:He was bragging and complaining at the same time about how much work there was. Kinda like how finance associates bragplain about having to work 80-100 hr weeks. I wanted to reenact the scene from Airplane. Sniff glue?
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Aug 12, 2016 19:25
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Lote posted:He was bragging and complaining at the same time about how much work there was. Kinda like how finance associates bragplain about having to work 80-100 hr weeks. I wanted to reenact the scene from Airplane. Surely you can't be serious?
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Aug 12, 2016 20:26
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Lote posted:He was bragging and complaining at the same time about how much work there was. Kinda like how finance associates bragplain about having to work 80-100 hr weeks. I wanted to reenact the scene from Airplane. So... Do you watch gladiators?
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Aug 12, 2016 21:14
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Roger_Mudd posted:If it's the guy I think it is, I walked out of an interview with that guy as a 3L because he was chugging two different monster energy drinks at the same time while calling me a liar. I tried to envision how someone would chug two different monster energy drinks at the same time, and I decided to believe that he was wearing a beer helmet.
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Aug 12, 2016 21:31
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echopapa posted:I tried to envision how someone would chug two different monster energy drinks at the same time, and I decided to believe that he was wearing a beer helmet. HAHAHAHA, that would have been better. No, more accurately, this man would alternate swigs of two different Monsters (different flavors).
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Aug 12, 2016 22:00
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Any TX lawyers know anything about Bickerstaff Heath Delgado Acosta as far as compensation/hours/culture/etc? I'm having trouble tracking down any information. I've talked to one person about them and he gave me some info basically implying that they don't pay market but everyone generally leaves at 5pm every day.
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Aug 13, 2016 00:14
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Apparently they do alot of municipal work. Thats all I know. edit: I have hot sports opinions about full-time municipal attorneys. blarzgh fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Aug 13, 2016 |
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Aug 13, 2016 02:09
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muni law is my dream job. I did a little work once in that field and had to write an ordinance banning swingers clubs.
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Aug 13, 2016 02:37
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mastershakeman posted:muni law is my dream job. I did a little work once in that field and had to write an ordinance banning swingers clubs. You monster.
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Aug 13, 2016 07:19
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i've found the greatest job ever. i am part of the top level technical team for the australian taxation office. tax may sound boring, however, nearly all the issues i deal with only have tax as a backdrop; the real issues i'm grappling with are things like 'what is real property?' and 'what are rights?' i get to spend weeks at a time researching arcane legal issues, have to make strategic decisions with wide implications which have to be thoroughly analysed from a policy perspective, and on top of that get to basically set my own hours as long as i'm working at least 35 hours a week (including working form home, which i can do pretty much at my whim). on top of that i'm dealing with decisions worth billions on a daily basis, padding my cv for whatever the gently caress i want to do. the only downside is i'm only on about 100k including superannuation, whereas in private I could conceivably be making 20k more or so for twice the work and half the work quality. basic message: government work can be insanely, insanely good. also i only have to meet with the other side if the office needs a technical legal person to be menacing. tearing to pieces a guy on 1.5m a year because unlike him i've had a month to get to know a case back to front and know every potential argument is amazing.
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Aug 13, 2016 20:20
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mastershakeman posted:muni law is my dream job. I did a little work once in that field and had to write an ordinance banning swingers clubs. look at what government overreach has wrought
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Aug 13, 2016 20:36
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1. during oci callbacks, what are some secret things i should be looking for? like everyone says "oh, look at the interactions between lawyers" and "oh, does the office setup seem your speed" but what else? 2. during one oci interview, i spent half the time talking about abortion. i haven't heard from them
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Aug 13, 2016 23:51
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2fast2furious posted:1. during oci callbacks, what are some secret things i should be looking for? like everyone says "oh, look at the interactions between lawyers" and "oh, does the office setup seem your speed" but what else? When they take you out to lunch, are they miserable or are they at least suppressing the dread of going back to work?
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Aug 14, 2016 00:23
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2fast2furious posted:2. during one oci interview, i spent half the time talking about abortion. i haven't heard from them What made you think that was even remotely a good idea? P.S. interviews are not secret or mysterious things. They're literally about whether or not you seem like someone I'd like to work with. Your resume has already made 80% of the decision for you before you walk in the door. (Yes, that means even if I'm interviewing 5 people I already have a favorite and 4 lovely second-tier candidates I'm interviewing in case the best one is a toolbucket or takes an offer from another place.)
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Aug 14, 2016 00:43
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Arcturas posted:What made you think that was even remotely a good idea? To be fair, sometimes interviewers drag you into uncomfortable topics for no reason. I was drug into Israel/Palestine. I did get a callback and didn't care, because I would never go to the firm after that.
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Aug 14, 2016 01:08
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I think the idea is to bait you and see how you respond. Sometimes clients will bring up off-the-wall, controversial poo poo where the only winning move for you is to not engage and change the subject.
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Aug 14, 2016 01:42
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If you dread your job, find another job friends. I actually look forward to worth every day. Beats my otherwise drab existence.
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Aug 14, 2016 05:35
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Neurosis posted:i've found the greatest job ever. i am part of the top level technical team for the australian taxation office. tax may sound boring, however, nearly all the issues i deal with only have tax as a backdrop; the real issues i'm grappling with are things like 'what is real property?' and 'what are rights?' i get to spend weeks at a time researching arcane legal issues, have to make strategic decisions with wide implications which have to be thoroughly analysed from a policy perspective, and on top of that get to basically set my own hours as long as i'm working at least 35 hours a week (including working form home, which i can do pretty much at my whim). on top of that i'm dealing with decisions worth billions on a daily basis, padding my cv for whatever the gently caress i want to do. Because you're one of like, the 4 other Ausgoons itt i'm glad you're story has gone from "gently caress my life" to "I love my work" 
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Aug 14, 2016 06:34
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:If you dread your job, find another job friends. I actually look forward to worth every day. Beats my otherwise drab existence. Hay everyone, look at this special snow flake! Booooooooo
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Aug 14, 2016 13:27
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Any other tips for OCI callbacks? I have a few this week. Was planning on spending time researching the firms more, looking at their news/blog etc. Beyond that I can't think of much. I think they are series of 30 min interviews so it's not like you can get super in depth.
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Aug 14, 2016 19:56
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Fuzzie Dunlop posted:Any other tips for OCI callbacks? I have a few this week. Was planning on spending time researching the firms more, looking at their news/blog etc. Beyond that I can't think of much. I think they are series of 30 min interviews so it's not like you can get super in depth. Now that I am the one doing the interviews, I am impressed by people who can articulate why they want to join my firm--rather than any firm that gave them a callback--and why. That requires a certain knowledge of the market that goes well beyond "read firm's website." Also the website probably is not helpful anyway.
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Aug 14, 2016 21:30
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Went to a CLE today where judges advised young lawyers on how to conduct a trial. Judge's advice? "When you're defending a criminal case, you should always call your client to testify."
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Aug 15, 2016 07:43
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