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prefect posted:Yulia Tymoshenko, right? Yeah the article is this thing, her sending letters of support to Hillary from prison. http://www.unian.info/politics/604949-yulia-tymoshenko-thanks-hillary-clinton-for-support-in-letter.html
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FreakerByTheSpeaker posted:What does the new thread title mean? What did I miss over the last 36 hours? it means donald trump bought na'vis dota team
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I'm going to be charitable and say we only have proof Trump is "owned" by the Russians with all this evidence in the same respect Clinton is "owned" by the EU, Saudi and Israel. Still, that much at least is proven now. Which I don't think is going to fly with any voters except the true alt-right, which (assuming they actually use their burning spirit in November) is maybe a few percent of the electorate. If Trump doesn't have some insane truthbombs built up from stuff Manafort or others know, with evidence, he's got no path.
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What if this is why Trump is deliberately tanking his campaign, so he won't ever have to deliver on favors for Russia?
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it's taken me up to recent weeks, but I'm now sure that if DJT made a secret pact to sabotage the Republicans and get Clinton elected, it wouldn't look like this it's way too unnecessarily damaging to his own reputation. he could absolutely have tanked his own chances just as effectively without making himself look like such a loving wreck, damaging his brand, devaluing everything he owns. he definitely wouldn't have brought in his own children as special advisors, connecting them so visibly and permanently to all this
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Brainy, attractive, and outspoken, McCaughey soon found herself tapped to run as New York Governor George Pataki’s lieutenant. To put it delicately, she did not play well with others. Pataki aides quickly pegged her as self-absorbed and self-promoting to the point of disloyalty. Before she was even sworn in, McCaughey used her own money to hire a personal publicist. Once in office, she issued reports and press releases and gave speeches that contradicted her boss’s positions. She was also notoriously rough on staff. One campaign story had her ordering an aide out of her van on the side of a highway. As lieutenant governor, she was accused of using the troopers assigned to her security detail to run her personal errands, prompting Pataki to pull her detail for a couple of weeks. Party leaders and Pataki staffers alike began publicly slamming McCaughey as “unstable,” “paranoid,” and “too bizarre to describe.” The governor cut her out of meetings. In 1996, Republican leaders refused to make her a delegate to the RNC’s presidential-nominating convention. How did McCaughey handle the pressure? Not so well. She accused Pataki aides of “McCarthyism,” accused the governor of instructing her driver to make her late for official events, and publicly feuded with other members of the administration. When the party refused her credentials to the convention, she tried to go as a member of the media. Word on the street was that she was in talks to become a Democrat and run for Senator Al D’Amato’s seat. When Pataki dropped her from the ticket in 1997, McCaughey did indeed jump to the Democrats and promptly launched a gubernatorial challenge to Pataki, funded by her second husband, Wall Street financier Wilbur Ross. He was, at the time, still her boss. This is when things got really weird. A couple of months in, McCaughey became convinced Pataki was bugging her phones. She hired a counter-surveillance guy to sweep her home and office; when he didn’t find anything, she allegedly stiffed him his $3,000 fee. She continued to hemorrhage staff, and departing aides continued to trash her in the media. As one ex-staffer told the New York Daily News, “A lot of politicians are out for the limelight, but Betsy’s constant need 24 hours a day was something I’d never seen.” Sound like a certain presidential nominee? As it turned out, McCaughey’s husband cut off funding for her campaign just before the 1998 primary election. (The couple split not long after. Two years later, McCaughey sued Ross for $40 million for supposedly breaking his promise to fund her campaign no matter what.)
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Oiled and Ready posted:I'm going to be charitable and say we only have proof Trump is "owned" by the Russians with all this evidence in the same respect Clinton is "owned" by the EU, Saudi and Israel. One major difference is that Trump's finances are (likely) a complete wreck, and that's the kind of thing that makes you very own-able. It's not just the money coming in, it's how badly you need it. There's a part of me that thinks that this presidential bid is Trump's last ditch shell-game attempt to avoid getting whacked by the Russian mafia for debts he's been taking on for years and years.
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Denying the accusations is all well and good, but couldn't he have made a statement that was slightly harder to disprove?
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Long form trump tweets with a pro writer.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/347191326112112640 That's a terrible statement "Yes I totally worked for the Ukrainian president who tried to become a dictator but it was all through my bank account, no cash!" kind of misses the point.
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https://twitter.com/HallieJackson/status/765132701674471424 there is the full statement
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Fun fact: On 11 December 2009, Yanukovych called for his supporters go to Maidan Nezalezhnosti Kiev's Independence Square in case of election fraud.[67] Sound familiar?
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Oiled and Ready posted:Fun fact: Fun fact: Trump is owned by the Russians lol
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Traitorous Trump
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TBeats posted:Fun fact: guess hes not gonna turn into a corncob after all hes gonna turn into a lovely eastern europ potatoe just like how his wife will look in 20 years
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Trump's new SC shortlist: - Vladimir Putin with a fake nose and mustache - Vladimir Putin wearing a wig and a dress
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i miss the cult of personality  fuckin russia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0
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The EU, the Saudis, and Israel are the US's main allies in foreign policy, whereas Russia is probably the biggest rival in terms of foreign interest. Russia recently invaded and annexed the territory of a key regional US ally and is sabre rattling today, while the EU the Saudis and Israel aren't. Russia is widely acknowledged to be deploying cyberattacks on US institutions, including and not limited to these recent DNC hacks, whereas those other countries are not. The next US administration would be charged with coordinating the US's security from these attacks, and Trump seems terribly relaxed by this. Clinton, together with most of the US economic system, does have connections to yes, the EU, Israel and the Saudis, but they have all been above the board business dealings relating to the fact that they are massive trading partners. Meanwhile the Trump campaign's dealings are the stuff of off the books ledgers, for services rendered in undermining US policy interests, that Trump works very freaking hard to avoid disclosing. Clinton's business dealings are diluted by the fact that she gives speeches and collected donations from a ton of organisations and people, all with diverse and conflicting interests. Thus individual deals might sound like a lot but are but small drops in the bucket of her overall finances. Manafort's dealings with Putin form the majority of his recent income and he is doing his Trump work 'for free'. Clinton's foreign policy is consistent with the general arc of US foreign policy for fifty years. Trump's policy overturns all of that. So, no, it does not seem like these things are equivalent at all.
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the yemenity of my yemenity is my friend
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I take one night off from keeping up with this dumpster sharkplosion of a campaign, and I wake up to Trump being lead by the nose by a literal Russian agent who's received unreported millions in literal black book money. There's no bottom to this well. MadJackal fucked around with this message at 13:22 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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saudi scum are engaged in a retarded cold war slash genocide with iran
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Fangz posted:Russia is probably the biggest rival in terms of foreign interest. I'm old enough to remember when the Democratic candidate made fun of this silly idea.
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I just got real giddy at the thought of Trump trying to spin and clean up Manafort's mess
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breaklaw posted:https://twitter.com/JoePrich/status/765141731771682816 Oh my god. Nothing matters.
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Seems like this might not be all of it. https://twitter.com/AdamWeinstein/status/764992807236808704
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Fangz posted:Clinton's foreign policy is consistent with the general arc of US foreign policy for fifty years. Trump's policy overturns all of that. Yeah that's why I said once people know this picture more clearly it will only appeal to the actual alt-right, not people who picked up the word "globalist" as a brick to lob at Hillary. A few % of the electorate. The more Trump appeals to my ilk at this point the less likely he will be to win. He hit a nice midpoint between standard GOP and "Bush knew Iraq was predicated on a lie, our wars are for the globalists and the petrodollar not for our own citizens' wealth" way back in like June. At this point my best hope is that he's a kamikaze redpill but he isnt even focused or articulate enough to make me feel like he's doing more good than harm in that regard.
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Joementum posted:I'm old enough to remember when the Democratic candidate made fun of this silly idea. What a difference four years makes.
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fart blood posted:Oh my god. Nothing matters. Yeah this is exactly the alt-right few % I was talking about.
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How many long distance calls do you think Manafort made to hide his Russian mob money before releasing that statement this morning.
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Antti posted:What a difference four years makes. Putin's third presidency has been kinda nuts in terms of how far Russia has gone off the rails.
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Corey was just on CNN and said he retweeted the story to make Hillary and the media look bad. He really made no sense at all with his backpedal.
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Fushin posted:Corey was just on CNN and said he retweeted the story to make Hillary and the media look bad. He really made no sense at all with his backpedal. Where we're going we don't need making sense!
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fart blood posted:Oh my god. Nothing matters. If someone had video of Trump chanting towards Mecca at sunrise and sunset, that might matter, but everything else is okay.
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So do you think it will be Ivanka or Don Jr who gets the campaign manager job next?
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Siena polls New York! Clinton: 50 Trump: 25 Johnson: 9 Stein: 6 
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castille posted:Trump chanting towards Mecca at sunrise and sunset Oh that Trump and his sarcastic sense of humor! 
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Franco Potente posted:Siena polls New York! Trump's gonna take New York and California for sure.
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