USPOL August: Quoth The Donald, "Arzy more."

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iospace: Jan 19, 2038

Built 4 Cuban Linux posted:

Giuliani was clearly talking about the 8 years since the PATRIOT act was passed (a month after 9/11). Which is a really stupid point in my opinion, but I think people need to look at the context on this one.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/jan/08/rudy-giuliani/giuliani-says-there-were-no-domestic-attacks-durin/

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:11

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# ? Jun 13, 2024 05:11

i am the bird: Mar 2, 2005; I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS

ReidRansom posted:

https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/765285492711682048

Some numbers from PPP's Texas poll over the weekend?

Johnson's numbers looking not so great leads me to believe Trump isn't as weak here as I'm hoping. Guess we'll find out tomorrow or Wednesday

I get evil glee out of seeing the Green Party tied with Harambe.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:12

foobardog: Apr 19, 2007; There, now I can tell when you're posting.

-- A friend

I think the "Clinton is too old" stuff is just residual saltiness/Rovian tactics to make up for questions around Reagan, McCain, and W. There was actually an interesting video of W. during his gubernatorial campaign looking all the much brighter than he did during his presidency.

One of the going rumors was that he was back on the sauce/suffering from withdrawal. Or otherwise degenerating as it had just came out that Reagan did. And the response to him choking on a pretzel was right up there, too.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:13

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

ReidRansom posted:

https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/765285492711682048

Some numbers from PPP's Texas poll over the weekend?

Johnson's numbers looking not so great leads me to believe Trump isn't as weak here as I'm hoping. Guess we'll find out tomorrow or Wednesday

Yeah. Trump likely leading. But there's some chatter:

quote:

Austin-based Democratic pollster Leland Beatty argues, in a memo obtained by The Texas Tribune, that several factors, including an anticipated drop in GOP straight-ticket voting, could provide beleaguered state Democrats their biggest opening in 20 years. His predictions come as Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton continues to trounce Trump in all national and most battleground state polling, raising questions about his strength even in some reliably red states.

In Texas, 20 state House districts may be in play out of 39 where there is a GOP incumbent and a Democratic challenger on the ballot, Beatty wrote. In all 39 districts, a majority of those expected to vote � ranging from 52 percent to 72 percent � see corruption as widespread in Texas government, according to Beatty's projections.

[...]

A poll done by Beatty in June found Clinton trailing Trump in Texas by only 7 percentage points, 30 percent to 37 percent. A week later, a nonpartisan University of Texas/Texas Politics Project survey found a similar margin, with Clinton behind Trump by 8 points, 33 percent to 41 percent.

State Democrats got a shot in the arm earlier this week when Clinton's running mate, Tim Kaine, dropped in on Texas for a two-day fundraising swing that included a volunteer thank you event Tuesday in Austin. The U.S. senator from Virginia told volunteers he and Clinton are "very serious" about Texas, and in a subsequent radio interview, he said it is "definitely possible" Clinton could carry the state in November.

https://www.texastribune.org/2016/08/11/memo-texas-dems-have-greatest-opportunities-20-yea/

In 2012, Obama took 41 percent of the vote in Texas.

So if Hillary has consolidated to that level, and Trump has stayed flat, it could be neck and neck.

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Aug 15, 2016

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:13

ImpAtom: May 24, 2007

foobardog posted:

I think the "Clinton is too old" stuff is just residual saltiness/Rovian tactics to make up for questions around Reagan, McCain, and W. There was actually an interesting video of W. during his gubernatorial campaign looking all the much brighter than he did during his presidency.

One of the going rumors was that he was back on the sauce/suffering from withdrawal. Or otherwise degenerating as out had came out that Reagan had. And the response to him choking on a pretzel was right up there, too.

"Clinton is too old" also runs into the undeniable fact she is two years younger than Donald Trump.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:13

iospace: Jan 19, 2038

https://twitter.com/CatlinNya/status/765292608960786433
https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/765292831955189760

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:16

Eggplant Squire: Aug 14, 2003

ImpAtom posted:

"Clinton is too old" also runs into the undeniable fact she is two years younger than Donald Trump.

And the same age as Mitt.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:15

Dick Trauma: Nov 30, 2007; God damn it, you've got to be kind.

How brief would Trump's statements be if he couldn't use the words "very" or "best?"

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:17

emdash: Oct 19, 2003; and?

iospace posted:

https://twitter.com/CatlinNya/status/765292608960786433
https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/765292831955189760

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:16

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

But what if Hillary is just walking by the big red nuclear button, and slips and falls on it.
WHAT WOULD YOU DO THEN LIBERALS HUH?

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:17

Rookersh: Aug 19, 2010

Silver2195 posted:

Is there evidence that Wallace was actually a spy? Something of a fellow-traveler, sure, but that's not the same thing.

Perhaps Iron Rose was thinking of Alger Hiss, who was almost certainly an actual spy and was involved in policy-making at a pretty high level, though I don't remember him being considered for VP.

Two deaths means Speaker of the House.

Which would have been Joseph William Martin Jr., Sam Rayburn, or McCormack. None of them were Communists or Communist sympathizers.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:18

Uranium Phoenix: Jun 20, 2007; Boom.

ImpAtom posted:

"Clinton is too old" also runs into the undeniable fact she is two years younger than Donald Trump.

Never underestimate people's ability to deny reality. Any fact is deniable, especially if it doesn't adhere to the narratives and ideologies of people.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:18

foobardog: Apr 19, 2007; There, now I can tell when you're posting.

-- A friend

Dick Trauma posted:

How brief would Trump's statements be if he couldn't use the words "very" or "best?"

Actually, I bet if you did lexical analysis, Trump says "I" in his speeches more than that terrible narcissistic dictator Obama.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:19

Zanzibar Ham: Mar 17, 2009; You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.; Grimey Drawer

Trump may be older than Clinton, but don't forget that he has been medically certified to be the most healthy presidential candidate ever.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:19

WampaLord: Jan 14, 2010

Really, Obama is the oddity for being so young when he got elected.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:20

Xiahou Dun: Jul 16, 2009; We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.

Air is lava! posted:

Are they just seeing something which doesn't exist? I don't see any kind of slip. She just stepped down from a podium that's all.

Yeah. This exactly.

I think she might have semi-awkwardly leaned on Biden for a second, I guess?????

Also, really random, but how tall is Hillary? Or is Biden a million feet tall?

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:19

foobardog: Apr 19, 2007; There, now I can tell when you're posting.

-- A friend

happyhippy posted:

But what if Hillary is just walking by the big red nuclear button, and slips and falls on it.
WHAT WOULD YOU DO THEN LIBERALS HUH?

We let Gerald Ford near it!

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:20

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/765228556620292096

Damned Commies from Chicago.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:21

Teddybear: May 16, 2009; Look! A teddybear doll!
It's soooo cute!

Two House committees demanding that the DOJ indict and convict Hillary on perjury for a 2015 congressional hearing.

https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/house-panels-lay-out-case-for-clinton-perjury-accusations

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:21

foobardog: Apr 19, 2007; There, now I can tell when you're posting.

-- A friend

Dexo posted:

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/765228556620292096

Damned Commies from Chicago.

We needed the Illinois Nazis to keep them in check.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:21

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Built 4 Cuban Linux posted:

Giuliani was clearly talking about the 8 years since the PATRIOT act was passed (a month after 9/11). Which is a really stupid point in my opinion, but I think people need to look at the context on this one.

The context is that Rudy is human garbage who deserves to be mocked and shunned.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:23

ImpAtom: May 24, 2007

I have to say that for anyone in their 70s becoming President is a loving amazing thought to me. The thought of dealing with that level of work and stress in your 70s, even if you've got the best doctors on the planet, is mind-boggling. 70 is the age my grandmother could barely get out of bed anymore and Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump both have days that make my toughest work day look like a breeze pretty much every day of the week.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:25

Buckwheat Sings: Feb 9, 2005

Bush kept us safe.

Man it's pretty fun seeing Democrats actually being the ones that actually get poo poo done.
Osama killed thousands of people under Republican watch and was taken down under a Democratic one.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:26

iospace: Jan 19, 2038

Dexo posted:

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/765228556620292096

Damned Commies from Chicago.

...

You sure that was the Chief and not Clarke? That is totally something Clarke would say.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:26

Dick Trauma: Nov 30, 2007; God damn it, you've got to be kind.

foobardog posted:

Actually, I bet if you did lexical analysis, Trump says "I" in his speeches more than that terrible narcissistic dictator Obama.

I agree, but we'd also need his array of cronies to explain what he meant by "I."

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:28

Iron Lung: Jul 24, 2007; Life.Iron Lung. Death.

Teddybear posted:

Two House committees demanding that the DOJ indict and convict Hillary on perjury for a 2015 congressional hearing.

https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/house-panels-lay-out-case-for-clinton-perjury-accusations

When will Chaffetz please go away? He's so awful.

Also thanks thread, I now know that George HW Bush puked on the Japanese Prime Minister and then fainted. Which is so amazing, I am absolutely beside myself with glee.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:28

Argas: Jan 13, 2008; SRW Fanatic

foobardog posted:

Actually, I bet if you did lexical analysis, Trump says "I" in his speeches more than that terrible narcissistic dictator Obama.

Yeah but at least he's not a nagger.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:31

foobardog: Apr 19, 2007; There, now I can tell when you're posting.

-- A friend

Buckwheat Sings posted:

Man it's pretty fun seeing Democrats actually being the ones that actually get poo poo done.
Osama killed thousands of people under Republican watch and was taken down under a Democratic one.

Remember that Bill Clinton tried to take out Osama while in Iraq (?), and the Republicans dismissed it as him trying to distract from the Impeachment proceedings.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:31

Ciaphas: Nov 20, 2005; > BEWARE, COWARD

ImpAtom posted:

I have to say that for anyone in their 70s becoming President is a loving amazing thought to me. The thought of dealing with that level of work and stress in your 70s, even if you've got the best doctors on the planet, is mind-boggling. 70 is the age my grandmother could barely get out of bed anymore and Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump both have days that make my toughest work day look like a breeze pretty much every day of the week.

It never quite occurred to me that these are people within, on average, about a decade of straight up croaking. Sheesh

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:30

foobardog: Apr 19, 2007; There, now I can tell when you're posting.

-- A friend

Argas posted:

Yeah but at least he's not a nagger.

This is sadly most of it, just like how men actually talk way more than women despite the stereotype.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:31

foobardog: Apr 19, 2007; There, now I can tell when you're posting.

-- A friend

Ciaphas posted:

It never quite occurred to me that these are people within, on average, about a decade of straight up croaking. Sheesh

It's one of the things that makes concluding "the presidency ages you faster" hard. Our presidents really have been super old.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:34

Its Rinaldo: Aug 13, 2010; CODS BINCH

Argas posted:

Yeah but at least he's not a nagger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhDmND519v0

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:36

radical meme: Apr 17, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

Teddybear posted:

Two House committees demanding that the DOJ indict and convict Hillary on perjury for a 2015 congressional hearing.

https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/house-panels-lay-out-case-for-clinton-perjury-accusations

See this poo poo right here, get ready for eight loving years of this.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:36

ReidRansom: Oct 25, 2004

Dexo posted:

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/765228556620292096

Damned Commies from Chicago.

..., especially for (black) teens. (Others on case by case basis (whites permitted))

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:37

RealityWarCriminal: Aug 10, 2016

Iron Lung posted:

When will Chaffetz please go away? He's so awful.

Also thanks thread, I now know that George HW Bush puked on the Japanese Prime Minister and then fainted. Which is so amazing, I am absolutely beside myself with glee.

The first I learned about this incident was from Hot Shots Part Deux.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:39

Fox Ironic: Jul 19, 2012; by exmarx

Kevyn posted:

Reminder that George Bush Sr. vomited on the Prime Minister of Japan and Dubya almost died eating a pretzel.

To be fair, food poisoning sucks really bad and the Prime Minister was more embarrassed that Bush Sr got sick from food served at the banquet than angry that Bush vomited on him.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:39

Boon: Jun 21, 2005; by R. Guyovich

Fox Ironic posted:

To be fair, food poisoning sucks really bad and the Prime Minister was more embarrassed that Bush Sr got sick from food served at the banquet than angry that Bush vomited on him.

Which is the most Japanese response imaginable.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 22:41