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Great Beer posted:Any of the operators with DMRs do his job better. Wow we have reached peak bad opinion
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Clicking a head with a perfectly accurate single shot rifle is real hard. Better pick glaz so I can do it even more slowly.
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Aug 15, 2016 19:23
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Great Beer posted:What is the point of Glaz? His special is an acog scope and he can shoot open wood barricades sometimes. Wow. His gun has much better penetration than any other gun in the game, and can shoot through e.g. the windows on Plane.
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Aug 15, 2016 19:35
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Lemon-Lime posted:His gun has much better penetration than any other gun in the game, and can shoot through e.g. the windows on Plane. That's super great, on plane, when there are baddies in the windows. In a game where one headshot kills and most of the action takes place indoors away from exterior sightlines, you're better off with an automatic weapon that can put enough rounds downrange to guarantee a kill.
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Aug 15, 2016 19:38
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His shots blow through Castle barricades in case for some reason your team didn't pick Ash and the enemy team took Castle  Although to be fair with how many operators there are in this game now that's a possibility (except sombody picking Castle)
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Aug 15, 2016 19:42
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Pfox posted:That's super great, on plane, when there are baddies in the windows. In a game where one headshot kills and most of the action takes place indoors away from exterior sightlines, you're better off with an automatic weapon that can put enough rounds downrange to guarantee a kill. Then play a different operator, with an automatic weapon, in the situations when Glaz's extra utility isn't appropriate. He doesn't need to be a viable pick in 100% of situations, many of the operators aren't, and as it stands right now he's very viable in a few situations with clear drawbacks when he has to step out of his comfort zone. I guess the balance changes for him are probably pretty well ironed out at this point if they're coming in September, but I really hope they don't just give him a blanket buff to his gun's rate of fire or whatever. More stuff like how it can shoot through castle barricades and plane windows would be cooler IMO.
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Aug 15, 2016 19:45
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The good thing about Glaz is that you don't even need to score a headshot because 2-3 shots is more than enough to put down even heavily armored defenders. Also I don't see how DMRs being able to score headshots on the first shot is any different with Glaz's rifle? This game isn't all about kills. Softening up the enemies to the point where they are easy kills for the rest of the team is valuable too.
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Aug 15, 2016 19:45
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Change Fuze's gadget to have a flash grenade option and suddenly he becomes amazingly viable in every game mode versus being used to clear ADS in rooms in 2. Speaking of, weren't we supposed to be getting new/different game modes by this point in the DLC release lineup? Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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Aug 15, 2016 19:47
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Koramei posted:Then play a different operator, with an automatic weapon, in the situations when Glaz's extra utility isn't appropriate. He doesn't need to be a viable pick in 100% of situations, many of the operators aren't, and as it stands right now he's very viable in a few situations with clear drawbacks when he has to step out of his comfort zone. What situations do you think Glaz hanging around outside with his DMR rifle is more viable than having another automatic gun inside?
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Aug 15, 2016 19:49
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The Duggler posted:The good thing about Glaz is that you don't even need to score a headshot because 2-3 shots is more than enough to put down even heavily armored defenders. Also I don't see how DMRs being able to score headshots on the first shot is any different with Glaz's rifle? It was less a statement about DMRs being good and more about Glazs rifle being bad. Automatics are way better than either option since you can easily pop them in the head. If you want him to soften the enemy up, have him break Rook armor on a bodyshot.
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Aug 15, 2016 19:51
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The Duggler posted:This game isn't all about kills. Softening up the enemies to the point where they are easy kills for the rest of the team is valuable too. Actually if you're not top-fragging then you're trash.
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Aug 15, 2016 19:59
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Pfox posted:What situations do you think Glaz hanging around outside with his DMR rifle is more viable than having another automatic gun inside? Pretty much any area where he can keep lurking outside the windows, preventing movement in point and downing nearly every operator in a single shot; reading your original post back, I kinda disagree with your assertion that most of the action in this game takes place away from exterior sight lines. That's true in plenty of points but in plenty of other points it's not. And maybe in the pro-leagues it's different but in my experience even platinums aren't effortlessly scoring headshots out windows an observant player is locking down. Bodyshots have a very real place in this game and for those Glaz is still king. I'm not saying he's a strong pick, but I also don't really think he's a particularly weak one, and the last thing I think this game needs is more L33T snipers every single round.
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Aug 15, 2016 20:08
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The DMR situation would be fixed if the everything-is-a-one-headshot-kill damage model were changed to something more sensible, like headshots doing 1.5* damage. e; while we're at it, implement the above, make everyone always DBNO once by default, and change Rook's armour plates to giving +20 HP so he's no longer mandatory on every single team. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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Aug 15, 2016 20:09
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Headshots as instant kills too ingrained in the game at this point I think for any change to it to not be disastrous. I'd like to see bodyshots do more damage in general though.
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Aug 15, 2016 20:11
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Also Glaz shouldn't be hanging around outside. Early game yes he is great for holding down external breach points while the rest of the team moves in, but once the team is in he needs to be right with them. His ability to one shot down at close range is a huge threat and creates an insane amount of pressure on the defending team since they essentially can't peek if Glaz is holding a long angle on them. Unless you are jeynos with massive nuts and a mac11. IceOrb fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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Aug 15, 2016 20:11
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If there's a Glaz on the enemy team I know that any area that is visible from outside even a little bit is immediately a no-go, and that's more area than you'd think. Plus Castle barricades just became your enemy as he'll punch through them like he doesn't give a gently caress and you can't do that back. And yeah, inside, if he's got a hallway locked down it's locked down good, you can't trade with him (unless he's bad but that caveat extends to nullify any operator really) As others have said, he's not a great pick all the time, but he's got his perks enough that he's my most played attacker. Some maps I will never pick him on, but others he can do some real work.
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Aug 15, 2016 20:19
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IceOrb posted:Also Glaz shouldn't be hanging around outside. Far too many posts before this was mentioned. The one shot power indoors in really intimidating.
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Aug 15, 2016 20:46
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They should buff the Spetsnaz guys but Glaz is a cool dude.
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Aug 15, 2016 20:49
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A burst-fire weapon indoors will do a better job of holding an angle, and its operator will have additional gear to assist with a push.
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Aug 15, 2016 20:50
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IceOrb posted:Also Glaz shouldn't be hanging around outside. A Glaz who's good at peaking windows can be pretty loving scary. His gun means that even if you're just shooting someone's boot, it'll kill you really quick.
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Aug 15, 2016 21:06
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Everyone is wrong and should play Twitch using the FAMAS; the objectively best weapon in the game. I won't hear anything else on this matter.
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Aug 15, 2016 21:24
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There's 3 guns in the game I absolutely fear above all others: SMG-11; Famas, R-4C, in that order. SMG-11 being pinpoint accurate ACOG forever is hilarious.
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Aug 15, 2016 21:28
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Party Plane Jones posted:Change Fuze's gadget to have a flash grenade option and suddenly he becomes amazingly viable in every game mode versus being used to clear ADS in rooms in 2. New game modes were undated. They were sort of nebulously advertised as "plus: new modes + cosmetics".
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Aug 15, 2016 21:30
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Party Plane Jones posted:There's 3 guns in the game I absolutely fear above all others: SMG-11; Famas, R-4C, in that order. SMG-11 being pinpoint accurate ACOG forever is hilarious. I'm pretty surprised that this has never been changed. Having the loving SMG-11 as the headshot machine is ridiculous.
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Aug 15, 2016 21:39
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I use him to punch a tiny hole in a barricade near the objective and wait for any movement inside that hole and I just start blasting. Like someone said, even 1 body shot downs someone. Then some poor idiot comes to pick the first target up and I start blasting again. Who needs precision when they are less than 10 meters away?
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Aug 15, 2016 22:29
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pedro0930 posted:I've noticed that it seems you can shoot out thermite's charge even if he placed it on a reinforced trap door. At first I thought it's because I shot out the entire trap door (leaving only the reinforcement). After further observation, any gun can shoot out thermite's charge through reinforced trap door. You can destroy the charge both while it's burning or just placed, too. Yeah one guy did this to two of my charges in one round so when I figured it out I started doing it to other people. I assume it's spreading like this.
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Aug 15, 2016 22:31
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   Why, I'd love to defend, if I could loving see outside worth a drat.
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Party Plane Jones posted:Why, I'd love to defend, if I could loving see outside worth a drat. In my experience, the attackers can't see poo poo either, the inside will look really dark to them. I've noticed that Glaz's scope helps somewhat.
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Aug 16, 2016 01:16
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(not mine) https://gfycat.com/BossyDependableAustralianshelduck
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Gunder posted:In my experience, the attackers can't see poo poo either, the inside will look really dark to them. I've noticed that Glaz's scope helps somewhat. Yeah it's intentional, you're not really meant to be engaging in the windows.
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Aug 16, 2016 02:45
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Don't make fun of catterpillar montagne, he'll sprout into a beautiful butterfly
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Aug 16, 2016 02:46
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a beautiful riot shield butterfly with 2 huge riot shield wings. Finally, my dream from Modern Warfare 2 of duel-wielding riot shields and flying up to the Harrier and dropkicking it will become a reality 
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Aug 16, 2016 03:21
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Just had the best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BceYn4fmqS4 UnfortunateSexFart fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Aug 16, 2016 |
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Aug 16, 2016 03:32
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11 kills in one round? I don't think so mate.
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Wooper posted:11 kills in one round? I don't think so mate. I always get round and match mixed up 
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Aug 16, 2016 03:44
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alf_pogs posted:definitely feelin some of the vertical sound weirdness https://streamable.com/0skt This is a bit absurd; unless all the sounds are coming through the half inch sliver not covered by the zodiac wall. Even then, these people were on the roof. Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Aug 16, 2016 |
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Aug 16, 2016 03:53
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Wooper posted:11 kills in one round? I don't think so mate. Start a Hostage game, kill all four of your teammates, proceed to kill almost all of the enemy team, then bargain with the last one for a suicide pact with C4 on top of the hostage 
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Aug 16, 2016 03:55
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Sound propagation isn't completely hosed.
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Aug 16, 2016 05:10
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Now THATS a new bug I have never seen. After killing a person using the animation cancel trick I lost my heartbeatsensor. It also dissapeared in the iconbar 
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Paradigmata posted:Now THATS a new bug I have never seen. I've had that happen to me before, but with cameras for Valkyrie. Also, fix the game Hard: https://streamable.com/qczc
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