Retro Gaming Megathread: Disconnect from the present, and Go back to the nineties.

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Caitlin: Aug 18, 2006; When I die, if there is a heaven, I will spend eternity rolling around with a pile of kittens.

MrLonghair posted:

That would be it slowly gotten used to 576i over the evening but it's not pretty, I gotta get something 240p RGB stat

RGB to BNC to urgh it's interlaced but oh so CRT-pretty

Did a few hours of Demon's Souls, the interlacing hurts my eyes but it's so much better than anything

share your account with me so I can play that 'cause I can't buy it anymore tia :cry:

(I really am pissed I can't buy Climax)

vv luckily I already have it but that's probably good news for some people here :toot:

Caitlin fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Aug 15, 2016

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# ? May 8, 2024 07:43

Random Stranger: Nov 27, 2009

Caitlin posted:

(I really am pissed I can't buy Climax)

FWIW, the 3D remake of Afterburner II is currently on sale for $3 on the 3DS eshop. I assume that game is going to have similar licensing problems.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 23:31

Kthulhu5000: Jul 25, 2006; by R. Guyovich

Caitlin posted:

so what you're saying is I can hook up my PS3 to this thing? Hum. I never did try anything newer on it.

but if my 360 wants to play nice imma be playin' some mothafuckin' STGs

Possibly, no guarantees, but the 20L5 can handle 1080i and 720p according to this:

http://www.broadcaststore.com/pdf/model/671080/pvm20l5.pdf

Not sure if it's standard or needs an addin card, but there you have it...

# ? Aug 15, 2016 23:32

Fawf: Nov 5, 2009; It's Me, It's Me, It's DDD

Sometimes I like to play After Burner Climax and OutRun XBLA just to feel like a cool Sega VIP

# ? Aug 15, 2016 23:34

Caitlin: Aug 18, 2006; When I die, if there is a heaven, I will spend eternity rolling around with a pile of kittens.

Kthulhu5000 posted:

Possibly, no guarantees, but the 20L5 can handle 1080i and 720p according to this:

http://www.broadcaststore.com/pdf/model/671080/pvm20l5.pdf

Not sure if it's standard or needs an addin card, but there you have it...

I'll have to see when I have the energy to tinker because that should be rather interesting. 360 ain't doin' much while I have my PS4 hooked up anyway.

# ? Aug 15, 2016 23:36

rdbbb: Jul 26, 2011

Fawf posted:

Sometimes I like to play After Burner Climax and OutRun XBLA just to feel like a cool Sega VIP

booting Outrun 2006 on Steam is the most alpha thing I do (and I'm pretty alpha)

# ? Aug 15, 2016 23:50

Karasu Tengu: Feb 16, 2011; Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

Don't forget about Climax's weird PSP port/sequel, Black Falcon!

# ? Aug 15, 2016 23:54

Code Jockey: Jan 24, 2006; 69420 basic bytes free

MrLonghair posted:

please NSFW-tag this blatant pornography

# ? Aug 16, 2016 00:28

URL grey tea: Jun 1, 2004; IT'S A SAD THING THAT YOUR ADVENTURES HAVE ENDED HERE!!

xamphear posted:

This is such a great book, and everyone who wants to understand the NES/Famicom at a more technical level should read it.

I am in the process of reading this now, and seconded. I smacked my head figuratively when I read the NES controller purposefully
has 8 button inputs (Up, Down, Left, Right, Select, Start, B, A) to equal 1 byte of data being sent. Any more buttons would have required 2 bytes and been wasteful.

The amount of optimization that went into SMB is admirable.

# ? Aug 16, 2016 00:32

ComradeCosmobot: Dec 4, 2004; USPOL July

Rirse posted:

Minor question, but how do you check what on a N64 memory card? I got a used one today but have no clue how to see what on it. I saw mentions of "holding start when turning on the n64" but doesn't seem to work with a flashcart inserted.

Own a Dexdrive :smug:

Ironically, I no longer own any memory cards to use with it. :negative:

EDIT: Huh. I'm surprised they're still so cheap. How many of those things did they make?

ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Aug 16, 2016

# ? Aug 16, 2016 00:52

Instant Sunrise: Apr 12, 2007; The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

ComradeCosmobot posted:

Own a Dexdrive

Ironically, I no longer own any memory cards to use with it.

EDIT: Huh. I'm surprised they're still so cheap. How many of those things did they make?

Yeah? well I've got a Gameshark Pro and an old laptop with a parallel port. :smaug:

_{i have yet to figure out HOW to get any files off of it, since i'm keeping a windows 98 laptop air gapped for somewhat obvious reasons.}

# ? Aug 16, 2016 01:06

Chumbawumba4ever97: Dec 31, 2000; by Fluffdaddy

Ugh. I got to see what a Sega Saturn looks like on a PVM and now I'm seriously considering one even though I have a Framemeister :emo:

Seriously it looked like what I'd imagine a Sega Saturn emulator would look like with a good graphics card. How does it do such magic?

# ? Aug 16, 2016 01:14

fishmech: Jul 16, 2006; by VideoGames; Salad Prong

Instant Sunrise posted:

Yeah? well I've got a Gameshark Pro and an old laptop with a parallel port.

_{i have yet to figure out HOW to get any files off of it, since i'm keeping a windows 98 laptop air gapped for somewhat obvious reasons.}

There is absolutely no need to keep Windows 98 airgapped. Modern malware will fail to run or install on it because it's expecting a newer operating system with an NT kernel like XP. Of course you'll have a hell of a time browsing as IE6 won't handle modern javascript, and the latest Firefox that'll run without KernelEx is the 2.0 branch, and that'll have problems with a lot of https sites these days. There's K-Meleon, but you'll need to use an older version, which is based on Firefox's engine but was getting updates on a Windows 98 compatible version up to like 2013.

What you want is this though: http://fishmech.net/gscc_xp.7z

Despite the XP in the name, it does run just fine on 98. It handles basically all the functions of the N64 GameShark with the parallel port, and as well all the functions of that one PlayStation 1 GameShark that had a parallel port connection as well. You can even dump your own ROM files, take screenshots while playing games on the system, all sorts of neat stuff!

Also, I highly recommend just getting an ethernet card for the laptop and using Windows file sharing for transferring stuff around. It works just fine with modern Windows.

# ? Aug 16, 2016 01:24

al-azad: May 28, 2009

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

Ugh. I got to see what a Sega Saturn looks like on a PVM and now I'm seriously considering one even though I have a Framemeister

Seriously it looked like what I'd imagine a Sega Saturn emulator would look like with a good graphics card. How does it do such magic?

I could only play Saturn on a CRT. Those games relied heavily on dithering. Watching Game Sack, which captures footage from a Framemeister, all their Saturn footage looks wrong.

# ? Aug 16, 2016 01:28

Kthulhu5000: Jul 25, 2006; by R. Guyovich

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

Ugh. I got to see what a Sega Saturn looks like on a PVM and now I'm seriously considering one even though I have a Framemeister

Seriously it looked like what I'd imagine a Sega Saturn emulator would look like with a good graphics card. How does it do such magic?

Saturn RGB on a PVM is pretty glorious on my experience, and I know what you mean about the "emulator" look. Getting rid of the artifacting from composite seems to definitely sharpen up the edges of polygons and make it look a lot nicer.

# ? Aug 16, 2016 01:53

hannibal: Jul 27, 2001; [img-planes]

URL grey tea posted:

I am in the process of reading this now, and seconded. I smacked my head figuratively when I read the NES controller purposefully
has 8 button inputs (Up, Down, Left, Right, Select, Start, B, A) to equal 1 byte of data being sent. Any more buttons would have required 2 bytes and been wasteful.

The amount of optimization that went into SMB is admirable.

I'm also reading it right now and I think it's awesome as well. I'd be curious what errors might be in it - seems like the guy did some pretty deep research considering how technical it is.

# ? Aug 16, 2016 02:00

xamphear: Apr 9, 2002; SILK FOR CALDÉ!

Lime posted:

Die size really doesn't have anything to do with the size of the system.

Fishmech already addressed you in more detail, but honestly, cramming more into smaller and smaller die sizes is responsible for the shrinking size of electronics. You don't get from a giant bag car phone and a laptop to an iPhone without die size advancements.

You should keep reading the book, and whenever you run into something you don't trust at face value, do some research around that topic. You'll wind up learning tons.

# ? Aug 16, 2016 02:06

Cliff Racer: Mar 24, 2007; by Lowtax

I won a pretty big lot and have gained access to 102 Famicom games (and 11 Super Fami.) Uggh, how am I going to catalogue all this stuff.

Also, relatedly, am I right in assuming that my Power Games (famiclone) will play these?

Cliff Racer fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Aug 16, 2016

# ? Aug 16, 2016 03:30

Ghosts n Gopniks: Nov 2, 2004; Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.

Cliff Racer posted:

Also, relatedly, am I right in assuming that my Power Games (famiclone) will play these?

My famiclone can play one cart that my actually 99% good hardware copy from last year cannot, so from my statistics yes :v:

(damned nice haul)

# ? Aug 16, 2016 03:40

Caitlin: Aug 18, 2006; When I die, if there is a heaven, I will spend eternity rolling around with a pile of kittens.

I say we have a money pool on how many games in the lot are Family Stadium.

# ? Aug 16, 2016 04:02

fishmech: Jul 16, 2006; by VideoGames; Salad Prong

Cliff Racer posted:

I won a pretty big lot and have gained access to 102 Famicom games (and 11 Super Fami.) Uggh, how am I going to catalogue all this stuff.

Also, relatedly, am I right in assuming that my Power Games (famiclone) will play these?

Is it the Power Games penguin or the Power Games built in an N64 controller? The penguin is much more compatible.

# ? Aug 16, 2016 04:08

Cliff Racer: Mar 24, 2007; by Lowtax

Its the penguin. Glad to hear it will work. Also I love the 5 digit game codes, makes looking this stuff up much easier. On the bad side however, there were 10 doubles, so I'm down to 92 and they seem much more skewed towards baseball, anime and Nintendo sports than to the stuff I'd like. Good mix of RPGs in there to but those are of extremely limited use to my non-Japanese speaking self.

Famista count:

4 copies, all of the exact same game too, none from other years. Its really odd too, seeing as the internet tells me that it is quite rare.

# ? Aug 16, 2016 04:22

Ghosts n Gopniks: Nov 2, 2004; Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.

You know bottlecaps in fallout games? That's Japan and famicarts. A regular segment in special streams of a crew I watch is a helper travelling through Japan set to arrive towards the end of the weekend/week of streaming, stopping to gather famicarts from viewers across Japan. 250-500 every haul but where the hell do they go afterwards, guy's gotta have enough to fill a new foundation for Kumamoto castle repairs.

# ? Aug 16, 2016 04:28

Random Stranger: Nov 27, 2009

Cliff Racer posted:

I won a pretty big lot and have gained access to 102 Famicom games (and 11 Super Fami.) Uggh, how am I going to catalogue all this stuff.

Well, you put the horse racing, mah jongg, terrible dragon quest clones, and baseball games in one pile. And then you play the other two.

MrLonghair posted:

You know bottlecaps in fallout games? That's Japan and famicarts. A regular segment in special streams of a crew I watch is a helper travelling through Japan set to arrive towards the end of the weekend/week of streaming, stopping to gather famicarts from viewers across Japan. 250-500 every haul but where the hell do they go afterwards, guy's gotta have enough to fill a new foundation for Kumamoto castle repairs.

# ? Aug 16, 2016 04:31

Cliff Racer: Mar 24, 2007; by Lowtax

Ohhh, I own Ikki! Wikipedia tells me that that is where the term "kusoge" comes from. Lucky me.

# ? Aug 16, 2016 04:49

Instruction Manuel: May 15, 2007; Yes, it is what it looks like!

Random Stranger posted:

Well, you put the horse racing, mah jongg, terrible dragon quest clones, and baseball games in one pile. And then you play the other two.

Ahh, a thrown fit for a king!

# ? Aug 16, 2016 05:13

8-bit Miniboss: May 24, 2005; CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY

Wamdoodle posted:

Ahh, a thrown fit for a king!

Why would you throw this?

# ? Aug 16, 2016 05:26

_____!: May 2, 2004

Cliff Racer posted:

Ohhh, I own Ikki! Wikipedia tells me that that is where the term "kusoge" comes from. Lucky me.

When I ordered my Famicom I made sure to include Ikki because of that.

rdbbb posted:

booting Outrun 2006 on Steam is the most alpha thing I do (and I'm pretty alpha)

I feel sort of dirty but I play it with a ps2 steering wheel looking like this (well at 720p because this 2011 laptop can't handle that at 1080p).:
check it at full size for the full effect

Text and menus looks like poo poo but the game itself looks pretty cool. I used SweetFX to do that (and I'm sure that image is going to cause at least 2 people in this thread to have a tremendous heart attack. It feels like a tiny bit of sacrilege.)

edit:image size fixed.

_____! fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Aug 16, 2016

# ? Aug 16, 2016 06:12

kirbysuperstar: Nov 11, 2012; Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

_____! posted:

That looks like poo poo.

# ? Aug 16, 2016 07:04

Silhouette: Nov 16, 2002; SONIC BOOM!!!

SWEET BRO AND HELLA JEFF: THE CARR GAEM

# ? Aug 16, 2016 07:16

Instant Sunrise: Apr 12, 2007; The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

I don't think I've ever seen a SweetFX mod that actually improved a game visually.

# ? Aug 16, 2016 07:18

Instruction Manuel: May 15, 2007; Yes, it is what it looks like!

8-bit Miniboss posted:

Why would you throw this?

Lol, I got owned by auto complete and failure to proof read.

# ? Aug 16, 2016 08:03

Discount Viscount: Jul 9, 2010; FIND THE FISH!

http://www.zam.com/article/914/sonic--knuckes--knuckles--knuckles

# ? Aug 16, 2016 08:04

Code Jockey: Jan 24, 2006; 69420 basic bytes free

_____! posted:

When I ordered my Famicom I made sure to include Ikki because of that.

I feel sort of dirty but I play it with a ps2 steering wheel looking like this (well at 720p because this 2011 laptop can't handle that at 1080p).:
check it at full size for the full effect
Text and menus looks like poo poo but the game itself looks pretty cool. I used SweetFX to do that (and I'm sure that image is going to cause at least 2 people in this thread to have a tremendous heart attack. It feels like a tiny bit of sacrilege.)

edit:image size fixed.

This makes me want a new Auto Modellista.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEXBazvuUPA

Make it happen, Capcom.

# ? Aug 16, 2016 08:09

Karasu Tengu: Feb 16, 2011; Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

I wouldn't mind an Auto Modellista if they can make the controls not poo poo.

# ? Aug 16, 2016 08:14

Son of a Vondruke!: Aug 3, 2012; More than Star Citizen will ever be.

8-bit Miniboss posted:

Why would you throw this?

You gotta admit, it's pretty impressive he could even pick it up let alone throw it. It looks pretty heavy.

# ? Aug 16, 2016 12:33

Random Stranger: Nov 27, 2009

_____! posted:

Text and menus looks like poo poo but the game itself looks pretty cool. I used SweetFX to do that (and I'm sure that image is going to cause at least 2 people in this thread to have a tremendous heart attack. It feels like a tiny bit of sacrilege.)

Not sacrilege, that just looks plain terrible.

# ? Aug 16, 2016 13:26

Instant Sunrise: Apr 12, 2007; The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

Discount Viscount posted:

http://www.zam.com/article/914/sonic--knuckes--knuckles--knuckles

Sonic 3 & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles.

# ? Aug 16, 2016 14:01

Random Stranger: Nov 27, 2009

Instant Sunrise posted:

Sonic 3 & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles.

Sonic & Knuckles will someday be the most expensive Genesis cart because all of them will be tied up with people attempting to make the largest tower of them.

# ? Aug 16, 2016 14:04

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# ? May 8, 2024 07:43

azurite: Jul 25, 2010; Strange, isn't it?!

That poor CDX! :ohdear:

# ? Aug 16, 2016 14:13

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