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| Your dad's dick |
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46 | 21.50% |
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20 | 9.35% |
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| What's his name |
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72 | 33.64% |
| London |
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25 | 11.68% |
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Bovril Delight posted:Yeah who needs a competent backup, injuries to Arsenals twink squad are pretty rare are you intentionally being thick as poo poo? we have a backup, his name is gabriel, he got hurt too
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Aug 16, 2016 12:50
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vyelkin posted:wtf really? That's right. I expect they want a higher initial payment.
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Aug 16, 2016 12:51
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Calm down, wicka
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Aug 16, 2016 12:51
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wicka posted:oh wow, THREE weeks, this changes everything Did you support Arsenal before the brain injury?
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Aug 16, 2016 12:52
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Kwagga posted:Calm down, wicka stop shitposting
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Aug 16, 2016 12:54
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"wenger should have signed a defender earlier, when he had no need to make a signing" - a person who professes to be sane
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Aug 16, 2016 12:55
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arsenal did need another centre back though
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Aug 16, 2016 12:56
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Wenger did buy a defender earlier though this whole chain of posts makes no sense
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Aug 16, 2016 12:57
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Jose posted:arsenal did need another centre back though  but it was clear wenger was going to put his faith behind mertesacker and gabriel, as he is wont to do. and considering the defense played well as unit last year and this team has far, far greater needs, it's just not worth the effort agonizing over. his hands been forced now though.
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Aug 16, 2016 12:58
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wicka posted:ah yes, he should have predicted that two of his center backs would be injured a week before the season started. typical wenger. A club of Arsenal's standing/expected position shouldn't be plunged into crisis with two injured centre backs. There's a big grey area between having 4 world class centrebacks and an adequate number of capable deputies. If you're starting a literal child in defence against a top four rival, you've hosed up somewhere. What seemed more odd was Wenger not putting Monreal at centre back as cover then someone else in at left back, unless of course Gibbs is injured and Arsenal literally have no one else to cover the left back position in that case. Get as pissy as you like, but Arsenal's squad depth is woeful considering the number of competitions they're supposed to compete in. Ninpo fucked around with this message at 13:03 on Aug 16, 2016 |
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Aug 16, 2016 13:00
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You got to love Arsenal being Arsenal IMO.
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Aug 16, 2016 13:05
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Bruno Peres is having a medical with Roma today. That's a nice signing.
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Aug 16, 2016 13:06
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Blue Star Error posted:Wenger did buy a defender earlier though this whole chain of posts makes no sense arsenal always need another defender
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Aug 16, 2016 13:10
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Ninpo posted:A club of Arsenal's standing/expected position shouldn't be plunged into crisis with two injured centre backs. There's a big grey area between having 4 world class centrebacks and an adequate number of capable deputies. If you're starting a literal child in defence against a top four rival, you've hosed up somewhere. tell me more about how teams should carry 6, 8, 10? i guess center backs, just in case
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Aug 16, 2016 13:12
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wicka is cracking up and needs to walk edit: every arsenal fan was saying from the start of the summer that they were sure Wenger was going to sign a CB because it was such an obvious need. Hashtag Banterzone fucked around with this message at 13:23 on Aug 16, 2016 |
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Aug 16, 2016 13:18
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wicka posted:tell me more about how teams should carry 6, 8, 10? i guess center backs, just in case To take an example from my own club, Smalling, Bailly, Blind, Jones, Rojo, Borthwick-Jackson, Carrick and Fellaini is probably the preferred order of people capable of playing at centre back before literal children with no Premier League experience are thrown into the line up. It's a similar story at the other clubs looking for at least a top four finish. Except Arsenal. Where two CB injuries mean you're starting Chambers and some other infant in a big match.
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Aug 16, 2016 13:18
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wicka posted:
I don't think his hands have been forced, Arsenal have needed quality players for years and here you are
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Aug 16, 2016 13:22
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Ninpo posted:To take an example from my own club, Smalling, Bailly, Blind, Jones, Rojo, Borthwick-Jackson, Carrick and Fellaini is probably the preferred order of people capable of playing at centre back before literal children with no Premier League experience are thrown into the line up. Don't throw in children with no Premier League experience says fan of club who pride themselves on doing that and are upset that their new manager won't do it anymore, instead choosing to sell them all to Sunderland.
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Aug 16, 2016 13:24
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Ninpo posted:To take an example from my own club, Smalling, Bailly, Blind, Jones, Rojo, Borthwick-Jackson, Carrick and Fellaini is probably the preferred order of people capable of playing at centre back before literal children with no Premier League experience are thrown into the line up. yeah idk if playing your midfielders and fullbacks out of position is a great counterpoint? i mean you could make a similar list of arsenal if you include monreal, debuchy, coquelin, but those are all terrible ideas. also we're forgetting koscielny simply being late due to the euros. Bovril Delight posted:I don't think his hands have been forced, Arsenal have needed quality players for years and here you are of all the positions in which arsenal have needed quality players for years, center back is one of least concern, at least recently.
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Aug 16, 2016 13:28
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wicka posted:yeah idk if playing your midfielders and fullbacks out of position is a great counterpoint? i mean you could make a similar list of arsenal if you include monreal, debuchy, coquelin, but those are all terrible ideas. also we're forgetting koscielny simply being late due to the euros. Nice loving Meltdown
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Aug 16, 2016 13:32
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Didn't this exact situation actually happen with Man U under Van Gaal and they ended up playing buddy cop duo Blackett and McNair in central defence?
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Aug 16, 2016 13:34
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Twat le Piss posted:Nice thank you!
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Aug 16, 2016 13:35
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Blue Star Error posted:Didn't this exact situation actually happen with Man U under Van Gaal and they ended up playing buddy cop duo Blackett and McNair in central defence? Is this gonna be a new HBO procedural?
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Aug 16, 2016 13:36
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True but then let's be honest, I like Mertersacker but being out with a knee injury for half a season means he is unlikely to come back at the same level given his age and nature of the injury: never mind how slow he was prior to getting injured. As soon as they knew he was out for that length of time they should have started looking seriously, rather than knee jerking it after Gabriel.
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Aug 16, 2016 13:46
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Arsenal should get a new manager.
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Aug 16, 2016 13:47
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arsenal should sack all their players and just start again
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Aug 16, 2016 13:50
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Bacon Terrorist posted:True but then let's be honest, I like Mertersacker but being out with a knee injury for half a season means he is unlikely to come back at the same level given his age and nature of the injury: never mind how slow he was prior to getting injured. As soon as they knew he was out for that length of time they should have started looking seriously, rather than knee jerking it after Gabriel. There has been a need for a cb all season and it looked like Arsenal were looming for an experienced cb all summer. Even the mustafi rumors predated mertesackers injury. Holding seemed like one for the future, and I don't think anyone expected him to be the cb we needed.
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Aug 16, 2016 13:55
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Bacon Terrorist posted:True but then let's be honest, I like Mertersacker but being out with a knee injury for half a season means he is unlikely to come back at the same level given his age and nature of the injury: never mind how slow he was prior to getting injured. As soon as they knew he was out for that length of time they should have started looking seriously, rather than knee jerking it after Gabriel. i agree but it's wenger and it's been obvious for months that he would give gabriel the chance to take mertesacker's spot and sign a younger player as a long term option, which is exactly what he did, and that left us with five center backs. again i would have preferred a more guaranteed solution but koscielny/gabriel/mertesacker/chambers/holding is fine, especially if you assume chambers plays as well as he did in the few center back appearances he got last year, and that holding never has to start, which is obviously not how it turned out. it's easy to complain with the benefit of hindsight (who itt was melting down claiming arsenal desperately needed a central defender three months ago?) but it's clear we had far bigger holes in the team.
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Aug 16, 2016 13:58
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trem_two posted:Bruno Peres is having a medical with Roma today. That's a nice signing. That is pretty good, I wonder if Torino will have time to find a replacement. That's two of their starting defenders (although Peres is more of a wingback) gone this summer, and Maksimovic went AWOL earlier this week.
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Aug 16, 2016 14:06
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Frankston posted:Yeah. It's not official yet but our owner has tweeted that it's just a case of getting his work visa sorted out now. There was also an article in which Lyden was quoted saying he had a good conversation with Mile at Bodymoor while he had his medical. The can't pass comment is worrying having watched Westwood for years, but I do suppose (pray to God above) he can't be worse?
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Aug 16, 2016 14:06
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Blue Star Error posted:Don't throw in children with no Premier League experience says fan of club who pride themselves on doing that and are upset that their new manager won't do it anymore, instead choosing to sell them all to Sunderland. sad but true
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Aug 16, 2016 14:07
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Wenger doesn't understand that modern football needs a squad not a team.
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Aug 16, 2016 14:10
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Blue Star Error posted:Didn't this exact situation actually happen with Man U under Van Gaal and they ended up playing buddy cop duo Blackett and McNair in central defence? I remember this. United have been playing children with no experience all over the place for ages.
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Aug 16, 2016 14:15
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wicka posted:far more concerned about getting a central defender tbqh lol just lol
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Aug 16, 2016 14:15
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But those kids played for United so they must be good.
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Aug 16, 2016 14:17
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Bea Nanner posted:There is noise about Arsenal sniffing around Wolfsburg left back Ricardo Rodriguez. He's already said positive things about Arsenal to the press, and now german site Kicker (don't know how much of a rag this is) are claiming an enquiry has been made. I think there is room for improvement at LB, but it probably means Gibbs would leave. But another CB should be the defensive priority. Who knows. rofl just rofl
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Aug 16, 2016 14:18
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wicka posted:well i agree that we definitely need a CB, arguably more than any other position. gabriel had a poor second half of the season but so did most of the team; i'm not ready to write him off yet. chambers played really well in his few appearances but definitely needs more time. that leaves us with exactly one center back i have any confidence in. running out of acronyms just running out of acronyms
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Aug 16, 2016 14:19
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"another CB should be the defensive priority" doesn't mean more than a forward, lmao (you can use that acronym)
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Aug 16, 2016 14:20
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well i agree that we definitely need a CB, arguably more than any other position.
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Aug 16, 2016 14:25
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Pissflaps posted:Wenger doesn't understand that modern football needs a squad not a team. yeah, which is yet another result of him being unwilling to challenge his current players for fear of hurting their feelings.
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Aug 16, 2016 14:29
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