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I go to pride like every year when do I get to violate Canadian and international law in order to make a buck?
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Wow the NP comment section is pretty heavily salted with Russian astroturf huh From: http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/putin-deploys-russias-most-advanced-air-defence-missiles-in-crimea-as-alarm-grows-war-is-imminent quote:World powers urged Russia and Ukraine to refrain from ratcheting up a confrontation over Crimea as President Vladimir Putin bolstered the disputed peninsula’s military with some of his army’s most advanced air-defence missile systems.  e: There's more, I just took the most popular post.
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Aug 15, 2016 18:24
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flakeloaf posted:Do you mean the target of their protest, or the ones wearing the hoods? Well, I meant Asians as targets of their activities, but the more history research I do the more nothing surprises me anymore. This place is weird. At the time there was a small Black community on lower Main Street. Vancouver needed a useless freeway stub into the downtown so it was conveniently bulldozed and the residents displaced in order to build the Georgia Viaduct. Similar story to Africville in Nova Scotia. I'd like to think racism is a thing of the past in Vancouver but I've noticed the service in better in certain restaurants when I'm out with my Taiwanese in-laws than when I'm in a party of just pasty whites. The injustice! 
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:Wow the NP comment section is pretty heavily salted with Russian astroturf huh
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:I don't know if you heard but John Baird retired already. Did I miss Baird coming out after he left politics?
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zapplez posted:Did I miss Baird coming out after he left politics? I thought you had a whiny meltdown and left this thread to us leftist circle jerking group thinkers.
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Aug 15, 2016 19:40
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:I thought you had a whiny meltdown and left this thread to us leftist circle jerking group thinkers. One single post calling out one of the biggest shitposters in this thread. Yup thats a meltdown. Can't stay away and let the groupthink echo so much the walls break down.
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zapplez posted:One single post calling out one of the biggest shitposters in this thread. Yup thats a meltdown. Well better luck next time!
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Hexigrammus posted:I'd like to think racism is a thing of the past in Vancouver but I've noticed the service in better in certain restaurants when I'm out with my Taiwanese in-laws than when I'm in a party of just pasty whites. The injustice! Actually yeah that's hosed up. Good thing you're insulated by privilege I guess because it's probably happening to non-white/non-Taiwanese patrons as well.
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Aug 16, 2016 02:29
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Did you ever think that perhaps he's getting better service because his in-laws are regulars at the places they take him for dinner? That would be my first guess rather than "they hate non-Asian people and spite them with bad service." You know, since I've seen the exact same thing happen when friends take me to restaurants, regardless of the races of the people involved in my dining experience.
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Aug 16, 2016 03:37
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My first guess would be language barriers and ethnocentrism, but yours is a good guess too.
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Aug 16, 2016 03:52
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Hey, I don't understand the legal system. They are releasing a serial rapist on parole although he has three life sentences. How does that work? It may sound like I'm being rhetorical or facetious but I've been weened on American crime dramas so this seems alien to me. quote:‘Balaclava Rapist’ Larry Takahashi released on parole from life sentence in Vancouver
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That letter doesn't exactly clarify anything either. Why is anyone committed to "reintegrating" that guy into anything? Is Canada really that short on dentists?
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I'm stuck on the three life sentences angle. I have to assume that they are being served concurrently, but shouldn't the extra life sentences make his parole hearing even more stringent? What's the point of multiple life sentences?
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Aug 16, 2016 05:02
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According to that FAQ you the parole board's reasoning is publicly accessible if somebody bothers to make a written request so in theory you could find out exactly why he was released. Still seems like a terrible idea though, this feels like one of those cases where the sentence should be more about retribution than rehabilitation.
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Aug 16, 2016 05:04
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The government is clearly trying just about anything to lower Vancouver property values now.
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Retribution is not a goal of sentencing. In case anyone was curious, this is a good thing. Somebody fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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Aug 16, 2016 05:07
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Hey, remember this guy? https://twitter.com/glen_mcgregor/status/765203718912389120 But wait! Our story gets better! https://twitter.com/glen_mcgregor/status/765397269940101120 https://twitter.com/glen_mcgregor/status/765397444876079104 https://twitter.com/glen_mcgregor/status/765397687118147584 https://twitter.com/glen_mcgregor/status/765397893322723328 (The guy's a loving troll, there's nothing odd about this, Glen.) https://twitter.com/glen_mcgregor/status/765398379228639232 https://twitter.com/glen_mcgregor/status/765398972408078337 (Many bloggers are idiots.)
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Aug 16, 2016 05:12
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Wasn't unfuckwithable supposed to have been terminally fuckedwith by some sort of horrible and inevitably fatal illness, thus rendering him impervious to threats? Dude can't even die properly.
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unfuckwithable guy's stuff in 2012 was just perfectly timed to capitalise on the raw angst and despair that so many progressives were feeling in the aftermath of Harper winning his majority. If he was really serious about fitting in with the zeitgest of 2016 Canada he'd be claiming to have a Trudeau sex tape. Whether the law formally chooses to acknowledge it or not, people sometimes want retribution for particularly heinous acts. Or if we do want to just say it's "denunciatory" instead of vengeful, which seems a tad euphemistic to me, then I still feel as though the life sentence wasn't denunciatory enough if it had provisions for him getting out on parole. To be clear, this isn't any kind of legal opinion or reflection of my beliefs about what the law says, they're just my personal feelings on the matter. Somebody fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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Helsing posted:That letter doesn't exactly clarify anything either. Why is anyone committed to "reintegrating" that guy into anything? Is Canada really that short on dentists?
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I'm not opposed in principle to parole for people serving life sentences. I also understand that in these situations parole means some kind of supervision for the rest of your life. My position here isn't a sweeping condemnation, it's a more specific and targeted complaint about this particular case. I guess it comes off as silly for me to carve out distinctions between different forms of lifers, saying some are worthy of potentially having parole while others shouldn't even have the chance. I admit I'm not presenting a sophisticated opinion, but I do think it's more than a little silly to say it's a "hard right" opinion on my part when I read the following information: quote:Documents from the Parole Board of Canada say Takahashi used a knife and other sharp objects to threaten his victims, and in one instance threatened the infant child of a victim. and then conclude that the guy being described here shouldn't be let out of prison, even on a conditional basis. Somebody fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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Helsing posted:I guess it comes off as silly for me to carve out distinctions between different forms of lifers, saying some are worthy of potentially having parole while others shouldn't even have the chance. I admit I'm not presenting a sophisticated opinion, but I do think it's more than a little silly to say it's a "hard right" opinion on my part when I read the following information: Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I gather we do actually make distinctions in extreme cases through labeling certain criminals as "Dangerous Offenders". So, for example, while Paul Bernardo will be eligible for parole in 4 years, it is highly unlikely he will ever see the light of day again (or at least I hope so. I can only imagine the public outcry if he ever gets out, just based on Homolka). Ditto Robert Pickton. Reading up on Dangerous Offenders, the government passed legislation in 2008 to make it easier to classify a convicted person as a Dangerous Offender, including those convicted on multiple charges of sexual violence. However, it looks as though it was not grandfathered in for Larry Takahashi. Somebody fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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Aagar posted:Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I gather we do actually make distinctions in extreme cases through labeling certain criminals as "Dangerous Offenders". So, for example, while Paul Bernardo will be eligible for parole in 4 years, it is highly unlikely he will ever see the light of day again (or at least I hope so. I can only imagine the public outcry if he ever gets out, just based on Homolka). Ditto Robert Pickton. I don't necessarily disagree with the concept of dangerous offender status or with Paul Bernardo being classified as one, but I would like to point out that there are very good reasons why we don't make criminal justice decisions based on the public outcry we predict they will generate. The public is dumb as poo poo when it comes to criminal matters and tends to default to "hang them" for anyone ever arrested by police, whether or not they're actually guilty. Somebody fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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vyelkin posted:but I would like to point out that there are very good reasons why we don't make criminal justice decisions based on the public outcry we predict they will generate. The public is dumb as poo poo when it comes to criminal matters and tends to default to "hang them" for anyone ever arrested by police, whether or not they're actually guilty. This is so true. A very common response in comment threads of any murder or violent crime story on the east coast is 'bring back the death penalty'- heck, I even see calls for a return to public gallows/hanging pretty often. Other frequent arguments include: 'the justice system is broken', it's too easy/never ever hands out a sentence qualifying as enough', and 'criminals have more rights than victims'. There, I covered 90% of arguments on Facebook comment threads about criminals.
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JVNO posted:This is so true. A very common response in comment threads of any murder or violent crime story on the east coast is 'bring back the death penalty'- heck, I even see calls for a return to public gallows/hanging pretty often. The justice system in Canada is in fact broken. The amount of serial sex offenders (and violent criminals for that matter) that are released well still at high risk to re-offend is outstanding. Basically the only way for someone to stay locked up is to be a serial or spree killer. Besides that, rape away every 5-10 years.
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Helsing posted:If he was really serious about fitting in with the zeitgest of 2016 Canada he'd be claiming to have a Trudeau sex tape. That's some cancon I could get behind.
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zapplez posted:The justice system in Canada is in fact broken. 'Justice system fails to adequately address sexual assault/violence' is true of what... Every country on this planet? I'm hardly claiming the system is perfect or even nearly so. Just calling out the canned responses I usually see.
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JVNO posted:'Justice system fails to adequately address sexual assault/violence' is true of what... Every country on this planet? I'm hardly claiming the system is perfect or even nearly so. Just calling out the canned responses I usually see. A good start is to not let out serial rapists who are "moderate to high risks to reoffend".
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Guys, tough-on-crime is really really bad, unless I'm personally outraged by the details of a crime in which case it's very good, lock the bastard up and throw away the key! At least I'm consistent and I don't mind admitting that I'm less than progressive when it comes to my feelings on criminal justice...  He's been in prison for nearly half his life -- over three decades -- and he has strict conditions for his parole. This makes a lot more sense to me than Hippie Naturopath McFuck getting a scant few months in jail for letting his kid die of meningitis, even if I might prefer this guy were still in prison. His curfew is very restrictive, he has to live at a halfway house, and being that he's not allowed a computer or internet access, he's basically prohibited from being a fully participating member of modern society. I think, inasmuch as the law requires a compromise to be made (and it probably should give convicted criminals the benefit of the doubt, at least a little, after literal decades), this is probably a pretty good compromise.
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Subjunctive posted:That's some cancon I could get behind. Espece de cancon.
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zapplez posted:The justice system in Canada is in fact broken. If you're going to make this claim in regard to Takahashi then I'd like to see some numbers on the number of serial sex (or otherwise) offenders that re-offended after age 60. Especially after serving 30+ years in jail. I'll save you the trouble: it's statistically tiny, because 'criminal menopause' is real. The VPD is just covering their asses by warning the public, due to the high profile nature of the case.
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:If you're going to make this claim in regard to Takahashi then I'd like to see some numbers on the number of serial sex (or otherwise) offenders that re-offended after age 60. Especially after serving 30+ years in jail.
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