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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The only downside to casting Jeff Goldblum in Thor 3 is that he can't play MODOK now. If modok showed up as anything other than a ridiculous giant flying fat head I'd be extremely disappointed
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John Hodgman for MODOK anyway.
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Aug 15, 2016 18:22
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The only downside to casting Jeff Goldblum in Thor 3 is that he can't play MODOK now. You can just cast Jeff Goldblum's son. A.K.A Nick Kroll.
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Aug 15, 2016 18:50
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:People were saying that Avengers was going to bomb because Edward Norton pulled out and it was "too much" for the average movie-goer to get. To much what
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CharlestheHammer posted:To much what I guess people were worried that you had to have seen all the previous movies to know what was going on and that you had to know who Mark Ruffalo was supposed to be after Norton pulled out. Plus, Norton was the only "big name" at the time. RDJ was on the rebound, but hadn't earned his golden boy status yet. So, people were predicting doom when "the one big star" pulled out and that it was going to be overstuffed with required background info.
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The Question IRL posted:You can just cast Jeff Goldblum's son. A.K.A Nick Kroll. Kroll for modok is a really good idea
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BiggerBoat posted:Jesus Christ. I think I brought it before in this thread or one like it but, honest to god, I have never ever in my life, prior to this year, seen "editing" used in film criticism. Like at all. I watch a ton of movies and read a lot reviews and message boards but for some reason 2016 is like the year of lovely editing. Every Thelma Schoonmaker movie?
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The Academy has awarded an Oscar for film editing since 1934. It's not exactly a new thing. It may not be as discussed among non-critical film viewers, but that doesn't mean it wasn't discussed.
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This is, editing is only noticeable when it's really bad. I watch Green Lantern the other day, and honestly, It's probably better assembled than Suicide Squad. At least there's a clear arc where you see Hal go from douchebag to hero and the Corps accept him. It isn't suddenly "oh i guess we're all friends now?".
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Wheat Loaf posted:Was GOTG the one that started the "This is the one that'll sink Marvel Studios!" meme or was it around before that? I think that started after the Hulk movie came out.
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Aug 15, 2016 23:39
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The whole "this will sink Marvel Studios" prediction is also less of a thing now because they are Disney. It was a bigger concern when the studio was just an offshoot of Marvel and it was gambling on its first bunch of movies to pay off a gigantic loan hanging over its head.
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I would bet money there were people going on about how Iron Man was going to bankrupt Marvel way back when.
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Aug 15, 2016 23:59
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Retro Futurist posted:I would bet money there were people going on about how Iron Man was going to bankrupt Marvel way back when. Perlmutter at least believed it could. Wasn't he really stingy with some of the release parties for Iron Man 1?
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twistedmentat posted:This is, editing is only noticeable when it's really bad. I watch Green Lantern the other day, and honestly, It's probably better assembled than Suicide Squad. At least there's a clear arc where you see Hal go from douchebag to hero and the Corps accept him. It isn't suddenly "oh i guess we're all friends now?". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzHJf-am0QY This is one of my favourite movies to point at because I have no idea how the gently caress you get something like this
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notthegoatseguy posted:Perlmutter at least believed it could. Wasn't he really stingy with some of the release parties for Iron Man 1? He apparently complained that press at the Iron Man premiere were allowed to take two sodas instead of one. He had also showed up to that premiere in disguise wearing a fake moustache
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He also fought against providing food at the premiere and eventually had Subway sandwiches and a cash bar at the Red Carpet event. They could make a movie about Perlmutter as a sequel to "A Beautiful Mind" and I would watch it opening night. He's on the razor's edge between genius and insane.
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SynthOrange posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzHJf-am0QY The CGI, though, I don't know.
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What the hell, Fox http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-original-plan-for-josh-tranks-fantastic-four-sounds-1785344574
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Aug 16, 2016 18:19
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:He also fought against providing food at the premiere and eventually had Subway sandwiches and a cash bar at the Red Carpet event. I've heard there's been a lot less conflict in the marvel studios division now that Perlmutter doesn't have the decision making power he used to have. Perlmutter being such a cheapskate was why so many of the actors were threatening to leave.
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Little Mac posted:What the hell, Fox Sounds good in theory but also sounds like a very busy 5 hour movie
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site posted:Sounds good in theory but also sounds like a very busy 5 hour movie Yeah that sounds like way too much poo poo to cram into one movie.
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Aug 16, 2016 18:58
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TwoPair posted:Yeah that sounds like way too much poo poo to cram into one movie. BUT YOU SEE IF IT WAS AN HBO MINISERIES
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site posted:Sounds good in theory but also sounds like a very busy 5 hour movie It sounds like trying to create a Marvel cinematic universe within a single film. That definitely wouldn't have been much better than Trank's vision, whatever that was before the studio bulldozed it.
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Aug 16, 2016 20:16
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Honestly this shared universe thing doesn't seem that hard:
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Have minor consistent things through the movies. Like have the President be the same person, or the News anchor is the same also helps. Man of Steel and Batman V Superman feel like they're in the same universe, but this is more because BvS is a sequel to MoS more than anything. Though I did not feel that SS and BvS are in the same universe though. All the Marvel films though, even Guardians and Thor, feel like they exist in the same place.
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Aug 16, 2016 23:24
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no matter how hard he tries, Mark Ruffalo will never be My Hulk 
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Aug 16, 2016 23:30
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twistedmentat posted:All the Marvel films though, even Guardians and Thor, feel like they exist in the same place. What has helped that for me is that, particularly in the early movies, they left space for other things to be going on. There isn't one event that started everything (though those different starting places now all orbit around the Avengers because they're out and public and such) and that means that even when the focus was on Iron man something odd could be out in New Mexico, some kid was abducted 20 years earlier and nobody cared, and a WW2 hero was just waiting to be found. And some folks in various boroughs of New York keeping a low profile. Heck, the one line from AoS where Coulson asks Sif about blue aliens and she has a whole laundry list of possibilities. WE knew it'd be Kree because of the comics, but it made the universe feel a lot bigger.
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An important addition to the list is that character development and personality through actions and dialog is more important than explaining backstory. And it's way more important than re-explaining back story. I saw the first few minutes of BvS, and all I got was old Wayne family murder stories. I saw Civil War, and felt a huge sense of relief when Parker have his into without mentioning Uncle Ben or power/responsibility.
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Yeah good call, no dead parent origin story drama in Civil War at all.
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StumblyWumbly posted:An important addition to the list is that character development and personality through actions and dialog is more important than explaining backstory. And it's way more important than re-explaining back story. Marvel movies seem to have a good sense for leaving things unexplained, it's one of the things I like about them.
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Aphrodite posted:Yeah good call, no dead parent origin story drama in Civil War at all. I know it's dumb responding to an Aphrodite post, but tribes in the Amazon with minimal contact with the outside world know about Bruce Wayne's dumb dead parents. Tony Stark's dead parents took a backseat in all the Iron Man movies, the character himself being at best a B-list hero before IM1, and it wasn't until years after the movie that the comics added the archetypal "Secret Origins" story that expanded on Howard and Maria's deaths; even then, the comics and cinematic versions differ greatly.
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Oh okay, that totally justifies why we needed to see it 3 times.
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Four Score posted:I know it's dumb responding to an Aphrodite post, but tribes in the Amazon with minimal contact with the outside world know about Bruce Wayne's dumb dead parents. Tony Stark's dead parents took a backseat in all the Iron Man movies, the character himself being at best a B-list hero before IM1, and it wasn't until years after the movie that the comics added the archetypal "Secret Origins" story that expanded on Howard and Maria's deaths; even then, the comics and cinematic versions differ greatly. I misread this at first and thought it was talking about Wonder Woman knowing about Bruce Wayne's dead parents. Which is probably true.
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Hippolyta is just a royal title every leader of the Amazons takes. Her real name? Martha.
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Wonder Woman killed Bruce's parents herself in the movies.
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Four Score posted:no matter how hard he tries, Mark Ruffalo will never be My Hulk Same.
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Aphrodite posted:Oh okay, that totally justifies why we needed to see it 3 times. Why are you like this
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Four Score posted:no matter how hard he tries, Mark Ruffalo will never be My Hulk In Infinity War, they should just silently recast Lou Ferrigno as the Hulk and never mention it.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:In Infinity War, they should just silently recast Lou Ferrigno as the Hulk and never mention it. Ideally, Banner would be played by the clone of Bill Bixby (sans cancer), but I'd settle for Norton coming back with nobody mentioning the switch at all
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I want Norton Hulk, but I can't tell if I'm just biased because of how much I love Fight Club.
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