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edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Apollodorus posted:

For anyone who wants a good laugh before the Super Rugby final, here is last year's USA Division III championship game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqiGsrhkRHY&t=1138s

(This is the level I myself play at, though these teams represent the best at that division and my own club is mid-tier nationally.)

Who are we? The Barbarians!
Who are we going to beat? The Barbarians!

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Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

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:patriot:
Every state (including mine!) has at least one Barbarians in it, I'm quite sure.

The Rabbi T. White
Jul 17, 2008





Apollodorus posted:

For anyone who wants a good laugh before the Super Rugby final, here is last year's USA Division III championship game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqiGsrhkRHY&t=1138s

(This is the level I myself play at, though these teams represent the best at that division and my own club is mid-tier nationally.)

Don't denigrate that by suggesting people have a laugh at that, man... It is fantastic to see people in the US playing at all. I admittedly skimmed the game, but the standard is the same as that of the 2nd tier NZ NPC... and your balls are much bigger than mine if you're playing in that division and have to attempt to tackle or clear out anyone in that front row. If one of your games gets recorded, share it up for us. :)

Smorgasbord
Jun 18, 2004

Our review identified changes needed to be made and, in Stephen, we have a coach who has a reputation for demanding the highest standards.

The Rabbi T. White posted:

Don't denigrate that by suggesting people have a laugh at that, man... It is fantastic to see people in the US playing at all. I admittedly skimmed the game, but the standard is the same as that of the 2nd tier NZ NPC... and your balls are much bigger than mine if you're playing in that division and have to attempt to tackle or clear out anyone in that front row. If one of your games gets recorded, share it up for us. :)

Do you mean Heartlands standard? Because no sorry that is not Heartlands standard.

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

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Smorgasbord posted:

Do you mean Heartlands standard? Because no sorry that is not Heartlands standard.

Yeah I was gonna say...

The main reason these two teams got to the final is that they have more big guys than the average DIII club, because at this level if you've got forwards who are large (100kg+ and over ~187cm) with good enough hands to hold onto the ball for one phase then you're already in the upper 50% nationwide :v: Add a kicker who can kick better than 2/3 and you're likely to win your state union's title.

But thanks for the compliment anyway, I like to think that as an 80kg/172cm halfback I do all right against the big boys.

Hashtag Banterzone
Dec 8, 2005


Lifetime Winner of the willkill4food Honorary Bad Posting Award in PWM
Hey another D3 guy. We lost in the 2nd round of playoffs this year. Hopefully we will get to regionals next year.

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

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My club didn't make it to playoffs, sadly. It's mostly because we had a lot of guys who were either new to rugby or new to the club (I fall into that latter category) and ended up having to shuffle people around without being able to build continuity or consistency in our gameplan.

We have new leadership going into the fall season, and hopefully some more effective coaching, so I am optimistic.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Christian Lealiifano has been diagnosed with Leukemia.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/christian-lealiifano-diagnosed-with-leukaemia-20160806-gqmh3t.html

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

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That's so sad. I think he's a great player and he's had a lot of bad luck already.

I hope he can beat it.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Yeah, genuinely hope they got it early.

poly and open-minded
Nov 22, 2006

In BOD we trust

Hurricane defense is off the starter blocks tonight

Mister Chief
Jun 6, 2011

Finally.

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




They won a thing

Corey will tweet forever

E. Stupid auto correct gently caress

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

The Hurricanes didn't concede a single try during the play-offs (and last 3 games of their season). The only other team that has managed this is the 2001 Brumbies.

Tyma
Dec 22, 2004

I love Leinster and I couldn't be happier that Jordie Barrett has signed with them on a short term deal.
Olynpic Rugby kicks off in 15 minutes. I'm rushing to make a lovely thread for it :{

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/olympics/36440149

Tyma
Dec 22, 2004

I love Leinster and I couldn't be happier that Jordie Barrett has signed with them on a short term deal.
:siren:Olympic Rugby Side-Thread:siren:

Seems like a good opportunity to convince some casual olympic-watching goons over to The Sport Of Cunts?

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3785650

Unimpressed
Feb 13, 2013

Vagabundo posted:

The Hurricanes didn't concede a single try during the play-offs (and last 3 games of their season). The only other team that has managed this is the 2001 Brumbies.

Yeah that's very impressive. Ironic too, that the razzle dazzle team eventually won on the back of a rock solid defence.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Here's the Springboks squad for the Rugby Championships

Hookers
Malcolm Marx (Lions)
Bongi Mbonambi (Stormers)
Adriaan Strauss (Captain, Bulls)

Props
Steven Kitshoff (Bordeaux)
Vincent Koch (Stormers)
Tendai Mtawarira (Sharks)
Trevor Nyakane (Bulls)

Locks
Lood de Jager (Cheetahs)
Pieter-Steph du Toit (Stormers)
Eben Etzebeth (Stormers)
Franco Mostert (Lions)

Loose Forwards
Jaco Kriel (Lions)
Francois Louw (Bath)
Teboho Mohoje (Cheetahs)
Sikhumbuzo Notshe (Stormers)
Julian Redelinghuys (Lions)
Duane Vermeulen (Toulon)
Warren Whiteley (Lions)

Halfbacks
Faf de Klerk (Lions)
Francois Hougaard (Worcester Warriors)
Rudy Paige (Bulls)

Five-Eighths
Johan Goosen (Racing Metro)
Elton Jantjies (Lions)
Morne Steyn (Stade Francais)

Midfield
Damian de Allende (Stormers)
Juan de Jongh (Stormers)
Jesse Kriel (Bulls)
Lionel Mapoe (Lions)

Back Three
Ruan Combrinck (Lions)
Bryan Habana (Toulon)
Lwazi Mvovo (Sharks)


Some odd calls, like no specialist fullbacks. Presumably that would mean fullback will be covered by one of Kriel, Goosen and Steyn, with Frans Hougaard also covering wing. Willie le Roux has been a surprising omission.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
That feels like a very top heavy squad.

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

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:patriot:

Tyma posted:

:siren:Olympic Rugby Side-Thread:siren:

Seems like a good opportunity to convince some casual olympic-watching goons over to The Sport Of Cunts?

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3785650

That's a pretty misogynist word to use for the women's rugby 7s game, dude. Maybe change it?

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012


Ow my heart.
He just had a kid too.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

With the Hurricanes winning the title last evening, New Zealand is the only country involved where all teams participating have a championship to their name. Australia were the first to get a founding teams clean-sweep with the Brumbies, Reds and Waratahs winning a combined total of 4 championships (2 to the Brumbies, the Tahs and Reds have 1 each), but his was done with 3 teams. South Africa started with 4 teams, of which only 1 has won the championship (the Bulls in '07, '09 and '10).

The Hurricanes are now the 9th team to have won the championship, while not a single one of the expansion teams have gone on to even make the semis let alone win the damned thing (the closest was the Cheetahs a few years ago when they made the quarters).

It was also the 4th NZ v. SA final, which is currently at 3-1 favouring New Zealand. All the winners have also been teams playing at home (the other three are Blues v. Sharks in 1996, Bulls v. Chiefs in 2009 and the Chiefs v. the Sharks in 2012).

Other combinations have been:

NZ v. Australia on 9 occasions (6-3 to NZ)
Blues v. Brumbies ('97)
Brumbies v. Crusaders (2000, 2004)
Crusaders v. Brumbies (2002)
Crusaders v. Waratahs (2005, 2008)
Reds v. Crusaders (2011)
Chiefs v. Brumbies (2013)
Waratahs v. Crusaders (2014)

Australia v. SA on 1 occasion (1-0 to AUS)
Brumbies v. Sharks (2001)

There have been 2 all-South African finals (2007 and 2009) and 5 all-NZ finals. There has yet to be an all-Australian final.

Each franchise area in New Zealand (and South Africa, actually) theoretically select their players from provincial teams.
The Blues have Auckland as the home province, with Northland and North Harbour feeding players.
The Chiefs have Waikato as the home province, with Counties Manukau, Bay of Plenty, and Taranaki providing further players, plus King Country and Thames Valley attached to them as well.
The Hurricanes have Wellington as the home province, with Hawke's Bay and Manawatu providing a further player base, along with further attachments with East Coast, Horowhenua Kapiti, Poverty Bay, Wairarapa-Bush and Wanganui attached to them.
The Crusaders have Canterbury as their home province, with Tasman providing a further feeder province. Buller, Mid-Canterbury, South Canterbury and West Coast are attached to the franchise area as well.
The Highlanders have Otago as their home province, with Southland acting as a feeder province. North Otago is also within their fold.

Counties Manukau started as a feeder province for the Blues for the 1996, 1997 and 1998 seasons while Northland and North Harbour were with the Chiefs before the boundaries were redrawn, leading to a swap - Harbour and Northland were put with the Blues, and Counties Manukau joined up with the Chiefs.
Because of this, Counties Manukau is the only province to be associated with two different Super Rugby winning teams (Blues in '96 and '97, Chiefs in '12 and '13).
Taranaki, on the other hand, started with the Hurricanes and were associated with them until the end of 2013, when they switched to the Chiefs from 2014 onwards. Because of this, they are now the only provincial union in New Zealand to not be associated with a Super Rugby winning franchise in any capacity.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Vagabundo posted:

There has yet to will never be an all-Australian final.

fixed.

South Africa would have to decide that they're better off playing NH rugby, and NZ would then have to decide that there's more money and better competition just playing the provincial comp. Argentina and Japan would probably also have to leave.

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

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The last all-SA final was in 2010, not 2009; it was the Bulls over the Stormers playing in Soweto (because Loftus was reserved for the soccer thingie)

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

goatface posted:

That feels like a very top heavy squad.

I think they're going to struggle a tad this year. It's got "1998 All Blacks" written all over it and they're probably going to pay for the reluctance of the previous coaches to fully commit to developing the next set of players to come through the ranks.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Out of morbid interest, how do these games usually air in say England or other places with VPN access (and on the BBC) or do you need to get something like BEIN Sports or some sports package in addition?

Tyma
Dec 22, 2004

I love Leinster and I couldn't be happier that Jordie Barrett has signed with them on a short term deal.

gfanikf posted:

Out of morbid interest, how do these games usually air in say England or other places with VPN access (and on the BBC) or do you need to get something like BEIN Sports or some sports package in addition?

The BBC just air their Pro 12 games on the BBC Sport website. There's no subscription system. The URLs are usually :

BBC 2 Wales (Friday night Welsh game)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union

BBC Alba (Games held in Scotland)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcalba

S4C (Sunday evening Welsh game)
http://www.s4c.cymru/clic/e_live.shtml

BT Sport (English Premiership) and Sky Sports (Champions Cup and a few Pro 12 games) are both subscription channels. There is a way to stream them officialy (and a million ways to do it unofficialy), but I've never actually bothered watching either of them online, when my local club has a cheap bar full of club officials and injured players on-hand to scream at the screen with.

Tyma fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Aug 10, 2016

Vaders Jester
Sep 9, 2009

:scotland:
RTE (Ireland's public broadcaster) and BBC Northern Ireland will sometimes show the Irish Pro12 games as well if you want to look at those. VPN should let you see RTE.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

SBW is gone for the year, unfortunately. Anton Lienert-Brown, who impressed at 12 for the Chiefs, has been called up from the wider training group to fill the vacancy.

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

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Was he going to go back to the Chiefs, then? I heard a rumor he was going to return to the Roosters.

Jono C
Mar 28, 2007

Adam is a wonderful example of how a player should go about his business in the NRL
He signed a three year deal with the Blues, so it looks like his league career might be over. Which makes me very sad as a league fan, but on the other hand it might make me give a gently caress about the Blues for the first time in about 15 years.

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

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Oh fun. My friend from Auckland must be excited.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Apollodorus posted:

Oh fun. My friend from Auckland must be excited.

It's going to create a logjam in the midfield for the Blues, since they'll have SBW, Piers Francis, Rene Ranger and George Moala to be juggled around. Francis proved himself a must-pick at 12, so that leaves 3 people going for one spot, basically.

Stitecin
Feb 6, 2004
Mayor of Stitecinopolis

Apollodorus posted:

...here is last year's USA Division III championship game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqiGsrhkRHY&t=1138s

(This is the level I myself play at, though these teams represent the best at that division and my own club is mid-tier nationally.)

I think Wisconsin knocked my club out of the Division II championship in 2012. We moved up to Division I, so I'm surprised to see them in D III.

HappyCamperGL
May 18, 2014

Gregor Townsend is to take over from Cotter next summer. Good for Scotland. crap for Glasgow.

Vaders Jester
Sep 9, 2009

:scotland:

HappyCamperGL posted:

Gregor Townsend is to take over from Cotter next summer. Good for Scotland. crap for Glasgow.

I wonder if they can get Sean Lineen to come back though knowing the SRU they'll pick someone suitably terrible.

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

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Stitecin posted:

I think Wisconsin knocked my club out of the Division II championship in 2012. We moved up to Division I, so I'm surprised to see them in D III.

There were some former Rugby Super League clubs playing in DIII a few years ago, or even now, so it seems like boom-and-bust cycles are not uncommon for clubs. Especially not in the rugby wasteland that is America.

Plucky Brit
Nov 7, 2009

Swing low, sweet chariot

HappyCamperGL posted:

Gregor Townsend is to take over from Cotter next summer. Good for Scotland. crap for Glasgow.

Wow, didn't even know Cotter was leaving. He was coach for what, two years?

Stitecin
Feb 6, 2004
Mayor of Stitecinopolis

Apollodorus posted:

There were some former Rugby Super League clubs playing in DIII a few years ago, or even now, so it seems like boom-and-bust cycles are not uncommon for clubs. Especially not in the rugby wasteland that is America.

The Super League clubs often run teams in multiple divisions. We played San Francisco Golden Gate's D II club every year until we both moved up to D I, they're able to field a PRP side, plus a D I A side and most of a B side, plus a D III side at different locations on the same day. (They've always been kind of assholes about bringing tons of guys from their PRP squad on to play for the D I side against us if there wan't a PRP match because our clubs have a fairly intense rivalry.)

I don't think Wisconsin has that kind of depth. Knowing what I know about rugby in the upper midwest, there's a good chance that their roster is largely the same guys and having gotten 5 years older it makes sense that they've moved down given how much families cut into rugby time, and you know getting older.

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Vaders Jester
Sep 9, 2009

:scotland:

Plucky Brit posted:

Wow, didn't even know Cotter was leaving. He was coach for what, two years?

Yeah, it'll either be the SRU not wanting to renew his contract (and make sure Townsend doesn't disappear to the Premiership or France) or Cotter wants to move on, probably back to the SH.

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