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For clarity's sake we do have operational Domino's Pizza and McDonalds. They don't have fries and it may be the only country to not have fries in its McDonalds but they sell Big Macs just fine. They're also not going away any time soon.
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A McDonalds without fries is not operational in any sense of the word
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# ? Aug 16, 2016 20:53 |
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An NGO called Proiuris just released the court of appeals ruling on the Leopoldo Lopez sentence. I haven't had time to read it carefully, but I don't think it contains anything new since the result of the appeal was announced last week. Anyway, over the course of my studies I've read my fair share of court documents, both from common and civil law jurisdictions. I've got to say that without a doubt, Venezuelan court documents are some of the most bizarre texts that I've ever read. I've translated a bit from page 169 of the appeal decision, in which the court is siding with the testimony provided by one of the prosecution witnesses at trial. Below is my translation, complete with run-on sentences, weirdly-placed commas, and questionable grammar: quote:We validate the testimony of citizen MARIANO ALFONSO ALI, who analyzed the speech given by citizen Leopoldo Lopez on his account twiter@LeopoldoLopez [sic] between the first of January of 1014 and the 18th of March of that same year, pointing out several criteria when it comes to the parameters that a leader must take into account at the time that they send out their messages and transmit their speeches, messages that as leaders serve to set standards of behaviour. On that topic, [Ali] indicated that citizen Leopoldo Lopez used the twitter as a tactical power [sic] since there is acceptance from the receiver which is made more massive through this medium by sending messages against the current government, ignoring its legitimacy, for example "whoever tires loses" which was retweeted, but there are other hashtags about the messages about the exit "sosVenezuela" "the delinquent state", which were also widely disseminated. On February 12, there was a [message] that undermined state officials, some relevant adjectives were: a delinquent, murderous, drug-trafficking state, among others, which the expert considered had a message which was to reach the receiver, building a basic model of communication that is sender, medium (where the message is transmitted), message and receiver, to create an idea around a vision of a country [sic] so that it would reach his followers which at that time totaled more than 2 million 700 thousand. Another characteristic of citizen Leopoldo Lopez's speech, is that he talks on behalf of all Venezuelans, not only does he talk in the first person, he talks for all of the opposition and he talks for all other Venezuelans who, are not part of the opposition. Chuck Boone fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Aug 16, 2016 |
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fnox posted:For clarity's sake we do have operational Domino's Pizza and McDonalds. They don't have fries and it may be the only country to not have fries in its McDonalds but they sell Big Macs just fine. They're also not going away any time soon. I thought McD's stopped selling burgers since they couldn't get any bread to make buns? Did something actually get better (so to speak) in Venezuela since I last saw it in the news? (Edit: it's from July 22, http://time.com/4420029/mcdonalds-big-mac-venezuela/ , so I guess it's still the case and you've just had the luxury of being in Sweden since utter collapse happened.) My Imaginary GF posted:Only you can make it collapse. Government will do everything to enrich itself first and foremost, no matter how small its territory becomes. Oil goes out, so loving what? You got illegal gold and lumber to get rid of. Your country can be stripped so loving bare that you make Haiti look like a developed nation what with its Domino's Pizza and operational McDonald's. That was an oddly personally-directed response? Fortunately, I don't live in Venezuela and I don't think I even know any Venezuelans. So... no, I'm not going to go there and try to foment revolution. Even if I were, I'm 99% sure I'd make an opportunity to escape and follow fnox into safety. I know you're kind of crazy, but it's true that even after oil is gone there will be drugs, timber, minerals, etc to sell that don't require any infrastructure and can enrich the few top echelon people and maybe keep the military and goon squads happy. I can't imagine modern slavery is a big enough business to significantly fund a country of 30 million, but what do I know. Saladman fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Aug 16, 2016 |
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It's just good idea to just put MIGF on your ignore list and get on with life, for what it's worth.
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# ? Aug 17, 2016 01:34 |
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Feinne posted:I mean there is going to eventually be a point where the quality of life for even the shitters on top starts to decline, even if it's just because they can't go to their coke parties without passing bloated corpses on the street or all the hookers are laid out with malaria. north korea continues to provide its elite and military a decent enough quality of life to stay in power
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# ? Aug 17, 2016 03:29 |
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icantfindaname posted:north korea continues to provide its elite and military a decent enough quality of life to stay in power And they do it with some human slaves. Ask the Poles who build their ships, the Russians who chop their trees, or thr commies who mine their unprofitable resourcez. Death to PSUV now, while you can still organize and communicate with the outside world, or die a slave. Your choice Venegoons, what the gently caress are you waiting for? The calvary isn't coming so loving rise up yourselves before you become physical slaves to communism.
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# ? Aug 17, 2016 06:04 |
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El Hefe posted:People have started eating stray dogs Venezuela’s worsening food shortages had tragic consequences for a rare show horse last weekend, when a group of intruders broke into the zoo, pulled the black stallion from its cage, then slaughtered it for meat. Prosecutors say the crime occurred in the small hours of Sunday morning at Caracas’ Caricuao Zoo, when “several people” sneaked into the state-run park under the cover of darkness and busted into the stallion’s pen. The horse, the only one of its kind in the zoo, was then led to a more secluded area and butchered on the spot. Only its head and ribs were left behind in a gruesome pile for zookeepers to find after sunrise. http://fusion.net/story/330834/hungry-venezuelans-break-into-zoo-and-butcher-animal-for-meat/
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# ? Aug 17, 2016 07:10 |
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oh poo poo horse murder anyone have any links to studies on when societies get hungry enough to turn to cannibalism like in ukraine or north korea?
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# ? Aug 17, 2016 07:56 |
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Well that horse was probably going to die of starvation anyway, so I hope they at least gave it a quick death The Caricuao zoo was a depressing sight even when I was still living in Caracas, it must be super creepy now with all the animals thin as hell plus the general state of the park. A few years ago there was a scandal because the Toninas (a river dolphin) in Valencia's aquarium were dying due to the poor maintenance. Apparently the water was too dirty, when I went there before the scandal was brought up, I remember the handrails near their pool to be completely rusted and a giant sign that warned us not to touch them because the residue could make the creatures sick. Then a few died and I think the rest were sold to another zoo outside of Venezuela?
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# ? Aug 17, 2016 08:49 |
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jesus christ you did it, you cooked that loving horse alive
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# ? Aug 17, 2016 08:57 |
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may god bless veneqzuela because no one else will lol
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# ? Aug 17, 2016 09:11 |
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We should really ask a Mod to change the thread name, something like "Venezuela: we're so hungry, we ate a horse", "Venezuela: every poster is a CIA agent" or "Venezuela: Mango based recipes ITT"
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# ? Aug 17, 2016 09:44 |
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Hugoon Chavez posted:"Venezuela: Maduro based recipes ITT"
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# ? Aug 17, 2016 10:44 |
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"Venezuela: The people of Venezuela, true to their republican tradition and their struggle for independence, peace and freedom, shall disown any regime, legislation or authority that violates democratic values, principles and guarantees or encroaches upon human rights. Right after they finish this horse."
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# ? Aug 17, 2016 16:51 |
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Mozi posted:"Venezuela: The people of Venezuela, true to their republican tradition and their struggle for independence, peace and freedom, shall disown any regime, legislation or authority that violates democratic values, principles and guarantees or encroaches upon human rights. Right after they finish this horse." How many calories are in a Che tshirt? Asking for a friend
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# ? Aug 17, 2016 21:25 |
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"Venezuela: gently caress this poo poo, I'm out".
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# ? Aug 18, 2016 00:29 |
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As Venezuelans are finishing that horse, they should stop to reflect, and comprehend everything happening in their country as a mild aggravation of the class conflict predicted by Marx.
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# ? Aug 18, 2016 01:39 |
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His blackened, poisonous heart would taint the meat and render it inedible. The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > Venezuela: Fighting Success Down to the Last Venezuelan
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# ? Aug 18, 2016 01:49 |
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Eating dogs and pigeons and horses is a time honored Cuban tradition. Even in Miami.
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# ? Aug 18, 2016 02:30 |
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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion: You have a constitutional right to be a dumbass > Venezuela: Baked Horse Heart with Maduro sauce
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# ? Aug 18, 2016 03:07 |
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Oil speculators are already drooling. http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/17/news/economy/venezuela-oil-prices/ Bank of America, not corrupt enough to go to Venezuela, http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-17/bank-of-america-said-to-follow-barclays-canceling-venezuela-trip Crushing guns and registering bullets, http://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-crime-idUSKCN10S2I9
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# ? Aug 18, 2016 03:11 |
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Mozi posted:"Venezuela: The people of Venezuela, true to their republican tradition and their struggle for independence, peace and freedom, shall disown any regime, legislation or authority that violates democratic values, principles and guarantees or encroaches upon human rights. Right after they finish this horse." At this stage of the game Venezuela might be better off admitting that while Simon Bolivar gave it the good Old College Try it's time to give King Felipe VI a ring and ask if Spain will take them back. I don't know what else you could do to fix this mess.
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# ? Aug 18, 2016 06:58 |
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Come on people, this is D&D and you're serving up imperialist propaganda. Everyone knows that countries faithful to anti imperialist revolutions commonly eat their zoo animals out of starvation. I mean, Syria ate its lions 3 years ago ( http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/middleeast/article3935102.ece ). Though seriously it's probably better to kill the animals instead of having them slowly starve to death. That actually bothers me a lot more. Too bad they won't send their animals to Colombia or Brazil or whatever.
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# ? Aug 18, 2016 08:57 |
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id love to eat a lion steak
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# ? Aug 18, 2016 09:17 |
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Its bad because these zoo animals are semi domesticated and used to humans, they would be really confused as to why friendly humans would suddenly murder and eat them. Also bad to let them starve to death though.
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# ? Aug 18, 2016 09:54 |
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Dicks out for Harambe
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# ? Aug 18, 2016 10:04 |
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Venezuela: 'It's all a right-wing conspiracy' he said while eating a horse.
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# ? Aug 18, 2016 11:15 |
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Hugoon Chavez posted:Venezuela: 'It's all a right-wing conspiracy' he said while eating a horse. You've finally exposed yourself as a CIA agent, Hugoon. Clearly you're denigrating Venezuela for political goals. You're holding it against the Venezuelan government that people are eating horse there, and while Iceland, France, Switzerland, Italy, and even Canada doing the same thing? And blaming the Venezuelan government for people eating exotic animals, while in your imperialist hellhole dictatorship of Amerikkka (or Kkkanada?), people are openly running zoos where they raise exotic animals purely for meat?? ( http://www.exoticmeatmarkets.com/ / http://laist.com/2015/01/08/anshu_pathak_lion_meat_exotic_meat_riverside.php ). This dude even sells — or sold — lion steaks. http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/03/12/get-your-lion-burger-while-you-still-can Goddamn, it's surprisingly easy to think like a Madurista apologist if you have no capacity for critical thinking, and a superhuman capacity to make bad analogies and compare incomparable situations.
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# ? Aug 18, 2016 11:47 |
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Yesterday, El Nacional published a video showing the passenger reaction when they realized that National Assembly PSUV deputy Henry Ramirez was on their flight. In the video, you can see Ramirez (in the blue shirt) "sleeping" while the cabin erupts in loud singing and clapping. The passengers are singing two different songs. One of them goes like this: "No tengo harina, no tengo pollo / En Venezuela ya no se consigue un coño" which rhymes really nicely in Spanish, but translates to "I don't have flour, I don't have chicken / We can't find gently caress all in Venezuela". The song continues, "No hay azuar, no hay cafe / En Venezuela lo que hay es escasez" [There's no sugar, there's no coffee / in Venezuela all we've got is scarcity], and then switches to "Y no! Y no! Y no me da la gana! Una dictadura igualita a la Cubana!" [No! No! I don't want it! A dictatorship just like the one in Cuba!]. All that legislating and fighting the Empire for the people of Venezuela made Ramirez really, really tired, so he was actually asleep during the whole thing: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4p33bj_diputado-chavista-se-hace-el-dormido-mientras-pasajeros-protestaron-por-la-escasez_news In another bit of news, soccer superstar Dani Alves donated 300 treatments worth of hepatitis C medicine to an NGO in the country that reached out to him for help. However, the government refuses to accept the donation, meaning that the NGO can't receive them. The newspaper also published this comment from a woman with lupus who receives treatment through the NGO and said that she hasn't been able to find her medicine for two months: quote:I think the president isn't getting the whole picture. No one acts like that while half the country is dying. And from the "Surely, this is too stupid to be real?" files, the national government authorized SUNNDDE [the organization in charge of ensuring 'fair prices' and whatnot in supermarkets and other establishments] to fine bakeries that allow "long lines" to form outside of their establishments. The head of SUNDDEE, William Contreras, said that all bakeries are being adequately stocked, and that any line that forms outside of one is manufactured to cause panic and commotion. In other words, "People are lining up for hours to buy food? Easy. Just ban the lines. Problem solved "
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# ? Aug 18, 2016 12:49 |
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Chuck Boone posted:Yesterday, El Nacional published a video showing the passenger reaction when they realized that National Assembly PSUV deputy Henry Ramirez was on their flight. In the video, you can see Ramirez (in the blue shirt) "sleeping" while the cabin erupts in loud singing and clapping. We might be dying but we won't go down without a jingle!
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# ? Aug 18, 2016 16:02 |
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Anyone still in Venezuela, can you confirm if there is in fact an actual physical fog of delusion settling in now?
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# ? Aug 18, 2016 16:04 |
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The CNE/PSUV go through great lengths to explain in minute detail how every step of this process is extremely complicated and time consuming, and how everything has to be done at the right time to make sure the whole process goes off perfectly. This is their main excuse for not holding the referendum before the key date of January 10, 2017. However, an NGO called Plataforma Venezuela Libre pointed out over the weekend that the CNE is 76 days behind its own schedule on the recall. These are the delays the NGO has pointed out:
In other news, September 1 is coming up, and the opposition is in full marketing mode for the demonstration it scheduled in Caracas for that day. They're hoping that this will be one of the biggest demonstrations in Venezuelan history, and that it will help put pressure on the PSUV to allow the recall to happen this year. Last week, Maduro warned that if things get out of control, he will make what happened in Turkey seem small in comparison to what he will do. This is what he said: quote:Do you know what happened in Turkey? Endorgan [sic] is going to look like a child in comparison to what the Bolivarian revolution will do if the right-wing crosses the border into a coup again. I’m not not just saying that just because: I’m ready to do it! And I don’t care what the [Organization of American States] says, what North American imperialism says. I don’t care what imperialism says! I dare you – the working class is here!
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# ? Aug 22, 2016 14:28 |
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-37164447 Venegoons, hope none of you work for the government...
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# ? Aug 24, 2016 03:27 |
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Spacewolf posted:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-37164447 A new Lista Tascon, loving hooray. As far as I'm aware of though this is nowhere near the scale of the actual Lista Tascon, there's too many openly dissident public employees that the government and PDVSA would collapse without, so this seems to be a targeted persecution of low level public employees in order to instill fear.
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# ? Aug 24, 2016 10:29 |
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Right now, the purge involves only 99 mid-top level bureaucrats at five ministries. The ministries now have about 12-ish hours to fire the identified individuals if they want to meet the ultimatum. Jorge Rodriguez is the one who announced the measure on Monday. He couldn't muster up the spine to say that the government wanted the people fired and instead used a euphemism: quote:They have 48 hours to so that these people who are in so-called cargos de confianza [literally “positions of confidence”; senior or important roles], director positions, well, that they be given other work prospects. Also, OAS head Luis Almagro released an open letter on Monday night addressed to Leopoldo Lopez. The letter states his reasons for believing that we have witnessed "the sad end of democracy in Venezuela", including the fact that Maduro holds political prisoners, that he violently suppresses dissent, that his government is corrupt beyond redemption and that he is denying the Venezuelan people the constitutional right to recall him. The letter rambles on a bit, which makes it difficult to follow at times. You can find the letter in Spanish here, and my translation below: quote:22 August 2016
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# ? Aug 24, 2016 14:34 |
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Reading between the lines of the opposition rhetoric over a long period of time is a little sad at this point..."Now democracy has died in Venezuela, oh wait no NOW it has...just hang on a minute...oh wait no nnnnnnow! OK now. This time." In personal news, my boss wants us to return to Amazonas for our final season of fieldwork in Puerto Ayacucho - this time involving camping for weeks at a time on the highly active (in terms of smuggling and [para]military) Orinoco frontier with Colombia. Fun fun fun.
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# ? Aug 24, 2016 17:15 |
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Last night, Maduro spent quite a bit of time talking about the Jason Burr [Jason Bourne] series on his weekly television show. He also suggested that the film be used for educational purposes to teach people about how the CIA is bad. Just before the clip starts, he was talking about how he recently saw The Secret Life of Pets. Here's the video along with my translation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oQdfddDYtY quote:Maduro: Before that, last week, we went to see Jason Burr [sic] [Jason Bourne]. Have you seen Jason Burr? No one's seen Jason Burr? You have to go see Jason Burr. Ah - General Padrino Lopez has seen it. The General-in-Chief. Jason Burr. And Jacquelyn [Faria] too - did you see it? No? It's better that you don't watch it [laughing]. It's going to make you worse. Vlex posted:Reading between the lines of the opposition rhetoric over a long period of time is a little sad at this point..."Now democracy has died in Venezuela, oh wait no NOW it has...just hang on a minute...oh wait no nnnnnnow! OK now. This time." Yeah. I mean, it is a topic of discussion. There are some who still would argue that Venezuela isn't a dictatorship. Almagro's been really, really outspoken on the Maduro government in the past, so his words aren't surprising considering they're coming from him. Still, it's important for him to call it like he sees it because he's the head of a regional diplomatic body. Also, good luck down there! Although I do have to say that I am so, so happy that I'm not going on that trip with you!
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# ? Aug 24, 2016 18:02 |
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At this point, news from Venezuela is like the old SNL meme "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead."
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# ? Aug 24, 2016 18:07 |
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Lol Vlex I hope you're getting paid a poo poo load of money Have you guys heard about the case of the American Mormon guy who married a Venezuelan woman here and when they were getting her visa ready and stuff to go live in the US he suddenly got arrested and they "found" an AK47 and a bunch of rounds and grenades on him?
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