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good. I want conservatism dead. It's a trash political idealogy that has hosed over the poor and disenfranchised so loving badly in this country. Good loving riddance.
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Goatman Sacks posted:Hey Cato just released their list of states ranked by Freedom (tm). Every so called "free state", fiscally speaking, ranks at the bottom for personal freedom. Sure, you're life is lovely, but you can make someone else really rich!
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Aug 17, 2016 02:35
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Rorus Raz posted:Trump is going to be on Savage tomorrow. If you don't know who Savage is, he's the guy who got his show on MSNBC cancelled after a handful of episodes because he called a caller a sodomite and then told them to get AIDS and die. Yeah. Trump going on Savage's show is sure to broaden his base.
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Aug 17, 2016 02:34
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PoorMoralCompass posted:Tell me true, is this guy for real, or is it Poe's law? In my entirely non-expert opinion, he's absolutely trolling. This doesn't rise up to the level of needing to invoke Poe. In some thread somewhere in the past few days, someone linked the archive of 4chan trolling him a few years ago. The first few were amazing but it became pretty clear that the entire thing is an act and he either enjoys playing with the trolls or is actively working with them for the entertainment value.
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Aug 17, 2016 03:36
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McGlockenshire posted:In my entirely non-expert opinion, he's absolutely trolling. This doesn't rise up to the level of needing to invoke Poe. Would you say that a Twitch boobie streamer is analogous?
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Aug 17, 2016 03:47
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BiggerBoat posted:Yeah. Trump going on Savage's show is sure to broaden his base. Please, we can be mature about this. Don't call that host something that implies aggression like 'Savage'. He'll be so much happier if we just refer to him by his perfectly fine name of Michael 'Wiener' Weiner.
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Aug 17, 2016 04:27
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I've been interested to see how Fox News is covering the election and whether their viewers are even receiving the information about Trump's campaign being a dumpster fire, along with his horrible polling and what it implies about the electoral college etc. It's kind of strange and sad. They are trying like hell not to cover the avalanche of poo poo polling he's had and not come right out and say he's losing huge and likely to get blown out. When they have their "opinion" panels like Fox and Friends or Outnumbered or whatever they try to dwell on any Clinton issues and still talk about things like whether the Bernie bros are coming aboard like this was still the first day of the DNC, and how independent voters are split fairly evenly among the candidates while completely failing to mention double digit leads in the huge majority of swing states. I heard them call PA a "tossup" state just this morning (although they did mention some double digit type leads right after that). If a giant blowout happens and Fox's audience didn't even get a memo that this might occur and thought horserace all the way down isn't there eventually a huge risk to Fox from massive loss of credibility translating FINALLY into a loss of audience and viewers?
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Aug 17, 2016 05:14
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Zwabu posted:isn't there eventually a huge risk to Fox from massive loss of credibility 
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Aug 17, 2016 05:24
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Looks to me like they can just pretend they were never saying anything different from what happened and everyone will just nod along
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Aug 17, 2016 05:28
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Zwabu posted:I've been interested to see how Fox News is covering the election and whether their viewers are even receiving the information about Trump's campaign being a dumpster fire, along with his horrible polling and what it implies about the electoral college etc.
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Aug 17, 2016 05:29
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Remember that Fox is not too happy with Trump after he attacked one of their employees and them snubbed them by skipping a debate. When he came to the next Fox-hosted debate, they actually fact-checked his bullshit and held him to it. Fox News hates Trump so much they actually did some journalism.
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Aug 17, 2016 05:30
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Zwabu posted:isn't there eventually a huge risk to Fox from massive loss of credibility translating FINALLY into a loss of audience and viewers? I know this is anecdotal, but most of the FNC people I know claim to actually dislike or even hate FNC. They do this because they know FNC has a bad reputation, and they have to have some excuse. So they can lie to their liberal friends by spinning some yarn about how they totally watch FNC with a critical eye toward bias, but then when they talk to their conservative friends they really just sit around and bitch about the hosts they think are too liberal as a kind of conservative dick measuring contest. So I would say that opinion of FNC among nearly everyone is already extremely low, and that no they will not lose any viewers over it since FNC is the only channel they feel safe watching. If they turn on any other channel they may have to see a black person mention that racism exists, a gay person, a muslim person, women wearing pants, or some other thing they just can't handle.
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Aug 17, 2016 05:32
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Zwabu posted:I've been interested to see how Fox News is covering the election and whether their viewers are even receiving the information about Trump's campaign being a dumpster fire, along with his horrible polling and what it implies about the electoral college etc. Since when has being wrong ever impacted right wing media? Their consmers never cared about facts. All they want is confirmation of their biases. When Trump crashes and burns out, they'll have their faithful rubes back after some "evil Hillary" and barely hidden racist stories.
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Phone posted:Would you say that a Twitch boobie streamer is analogous? Well, I'm sure there's a lot of audience overlap...
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Aug 17, 2016 05:36
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RareAcumen posted:Don't forget this guy If that was a black guy, that would be the last picture of him alive. #whitepriviledge
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Aug 17, 2016 05:55
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PoorMoralCompass posted:Tell me true, is this guy for real, or is it Poe's law? Honestly, I have no idea. Like I said earlier, I think that's part of the fun is trying to figure out if he's genuine or not. I listened to him back in 2012 and he really hasn't changed anything since. There's so many signs that say that he is and other things, like Engineer or his allowing of Trolls to troll, that make me think otherwise. I think it all just goes on what you perceive. If what a goon said earlier that there are clips of him getting out of character, then I haven't seen it and I will stand corrected. Besides, the splices are pretty beast. I really wanted that Marvin Gaye/Nickleback mash-up track.
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Aug 17, 2016 06:24
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Joshmo posted:Every so called "free state", fiscally speaking, ranks at the bottom for personal freedom. Sure, you're life is lovely, but you can make someone else really rich! One of the True Believers in the Libertarian thread posted the Cato Freedom Index for countries to show how "more free" countries had better standards of living. Qatar and UAE made the top 20 I think, because it's "more free" when the government doesn't interfere with businesses who like using slave labor. You don't want to live somewhere where you're not even free to get pressed into de facto slavery building hotels and resorts do you?
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Aug 17, 2016 06:35
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Don't you want to be free to sell your labor instead of merely renting it?
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Aug 17, 2016 06:49
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Babylon Astronaut posted:Don't you want to be free to sell your labor instead of merely renting it? One lump sum. Tax-free even! Great for investments! Also, the value of your labor drops over time, so you end up making a profit! All it takes is 40+ years of backbreaking labor with a high mortality rate and you too could become slightly less destitute!
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Aug 17, 2016 07:26
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Aug 17, 2016 08:19
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I don't even know where to start. What shows do I watch tomorrow to most fully bathe in the wonderousness of this insanity? I mean Maddow is a given. Chris Hayes would probably do some eye-popping but he's on vacation and the guy who replaced him is kinda low-key. But that's just rolling-in-the-smug guffawing, I also want to see completely flummoxed RWM blowhards struggle to figure out how to spin this poo poo.
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Aug 17, 2016 09:20
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Aug 17, 2016 12:42
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http://nyti.ms/2bhmPNj Not the type of type of right wing media we've come to know quote:Edmar Bacha, a friend and economist, had coined the term “Belindia” to describe Brazil — a prosperous Belgium perched atop a teeming India.
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Aug 17, 2016 12:45
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Geostomp posted:This is gonna be a fun (if terrifying) trainwreck to watch. I'm hoping that this results in more people being exposed to Breitbart and realizing it's basically a white nationalist outlet.
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Rorus Raz posted:Remember that Fox is not too happy with Trump after he attacked one of their employees and them snubbed them by skipping a debate. When he came to the next Fox-hosted debate, they actually fact-checked his bullshit and held him to it. Sean Hannity is basically Trump's media fluffer and Bill O'Reilly is pretty buddy-buddy with him and his focus is mostly on how he thinks the MSM mistreats him/puts forth false narratives. The rest of the network is more anti-Clinton than pro trump, aside from the random sane person like Juan Williams or Shep Smith who are pretty obviously against him Even back when it happened the other hosts only vaguely defended Megan Kelly, and went back to focusing on Clinton or Trump's big rallies within like a week. They didn't really care. Aesop Poprock fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Aug 17, 2016 |
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Aug 17, 2016 14:46
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MizPiz posted:http://nyti.ms/2bhmPNj I feel like he might have a point with "Developed countries are far harsher on international events held by developing nations," but yeah, a lot of nonsense in there, too.
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Aug 17, 2016 15:09
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Aesop Poprock posted:Sean Hannity is basically Trump's media fluffer and Bill O'Reilly is pretty buddy-buddy with him and his focus is mostly on how he thinks the MSM mistreats him/puts forth false narratives. The rest of the network is more anti-Clinton than pro trump, aside from the random sane person like Juan Williams or Shep Smith who are pretty obviously against him Exactly. For every Megan Kelly moment of sanity there's a doze Steve doocys waiting to be terrible people.
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Aug 17, 2016 15:13
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FuzzySkinner posted:Some of it is race, some of it is "Just world" fallacy. They're so unwilling to believe that there's legitimate problems in the US that need solved right now. It's why the "bootstraps" thing keeps getting brought up. They believe it's successful because it happened to them.
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Aug 17, 2016 15:36
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Pander posted:Exactly. For every Megan Kelly moment of sanity there's a doze Steve doocys waiting to be terrible people. Lets not pretend Megyn Kelly is batting a thousand.
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Aug 17, 2016 15:51
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Chilichimp posted:Lets not pretend Megyn Kelly is batting a thousand. Seriously. She's typical racist FYGM like the rest but she sometimes butts head when they start in on the anti-woman attacks (and only when it affects rich white women). She wasn't even pro-maternity leave until she herself had a kid. I don't really consider that anything to be that impressed by.
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Aesop Poprock posted:The rest of the network is more anti-Clinton than pro trump, Special report is the worst about this. Every loving day, The Five cuts to Bret Baier directly, with his usual intro of "Hilary Clinton: she sucks. This is special report!" dutdut dadutdutdut dadutdutdutudutudut "Our top story tonight: why does Hillary Clinton suck so much? People are saying that she really sucks. Now to weigh in, Charles Krauthammer." This is considered their "serious" news program.
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MizPiz posted:http://nyti.ms/2bhmPNj Brazilian here, and yeah, the choice of terms is a bit insensitive, but it doesn't seem malicious. It seems worse because it dehumanizes Indians as being inferior wogs, but the original 'Belindia' articles were far more comprehesive and interesting, basically positing that the country was (and is) a white elite that considers itself cosmopolitan, european and progressive, and a vast undernourished, abandoned underclass neck deep in very serious Third World problems that is exploited and/or ignored by the 'Belgium' stratum. Another quote from those times was "Brazil doesn't have pockets of poverty. It has pockets of wealth and excess."
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Aug 17, 2016 16:27
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Chilichimp posted:Lets not pretend Megyn Kelly is batting a thousand. That's why I specified "moment".
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I just peeked at Drudge Report and the headline is about Hillary and pillows. No Benghazi or emails. Is this the beginning of Pillowgate?
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What the heck is a campaign CEO? Does it outrank the campaign manager? Will Manafort have to poison this guy to keep his power?
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Aug 17, 2016 16:42
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Jurgan posted:What the heck is a campaign CEO? Does it outrank the campaign manager? Will Manafort have to poison this guy to keep his power? Trump thinks this whole thing is a business, duh.
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Sephyr posted:Brazilian here, and yeah, the choice of terms is a bit insensitive, but it doesn't seem malicious. It seems worse because it dehumanizes Indians as being inferior wogs, but the original 'Belindia' articles were far more comprehesive and interesting, basically positing that the country was (and is) a white elite that considers itself cosmopolitan, european and progressive, and a vast undernourished, abandoned underclass neck deep in very serious Third World problems that is exploited and/or ignored by the 'Belgium' stratum. Fair enough, guess I'm just desperate for some high-brow, intellectual Right Wing bullshit. Still think he comes off as the type of guy who likes to talk about the "purity" of people who grew up in extreme poverty at dinner parties.
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CortezFantastic posted:http://heatst.com/politics/must-see-photos-of-hillary-clinton-propped-up-on-pillows/ Donald Trump needs to start sitting in the Iron Throne for interviews to show how much healthier he is.
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