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28 | 47.46% |
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1 | 1.69% |
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17 | 28.81% |
| Pitbull |
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13 | 22.03% |
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Pretty sure Larry ran the merch support site for ROH. He did some on camera work but the man was meant for ring announcing but Bobby Cruise has that spot in ROH.
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Aug 16, 2016 02:41
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JOHN CENA posted:like, roh still has really good in ring product, and the storylines aren't BAD, but there just doesn't seem to be anything there to make me turn on my tv on saturdays. it just doesn't feel special. For me, I find ROH's show is the one can't miss. I'd rather watch one random ROH program than a WWE PPV.
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Aug 16, 2016 03:14
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Davros1 posted:For me, I find ROH's show is the one can't miss. I'd rather watch one random ROH program than a WWE PPV. To each their own, fair play, etc. but this is baffling to me. ROH's TV has been better over the last say, month, but before that it was on a streak of...not poo poo, but nothing remarkable, and WWE PPVs are the one consistently good thing about their product IMO. The last bad PPV was, hilariously, WrestleMania, but before that I can't even tell you when the last bad WWE PPV was.
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Aug 16, 2016 07:26
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is that why larry flipped his poo poo on some other ROH dude awhile ago on twitter?
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Aug 16, 2016 08:00
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What was that?
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Aug 16, 2016 10:25
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SamuraiFoochs posted:To each their own, fair play, etc. but this is baffling to me. ROH's TV has been better over the last say, month, but before that it was on a streak of...not poo poo, but nothing remarkable, and WWE PPVs are the one consistently good thing about their product IMO. The last bad PPV was, hilariously, WrestleMania, but before that I can't even tell you when the last bad WWE PPV was. WWE PPVs and RoH PPVs are both pretty much guaranteed very good wrestling, funnily enough I'd say they actually have the same problem for the past few months, good wrestling but it seems like the stories are often going nowhere. RoH TV and Raw/Smackdown both have issues with this, it just feels like a lot of the shows don't matter and at least with Raw before the last few weeks you often weren't guaranteed any good matches either RoH has the Jay Lethal out of title contenders/let's just throw some NJPW guys in and hope no one notices we're out of ideas for him problem, while WWE (getting better lately I'll admit) still often seems stuck in the 'ever feud must span 3 ppvs, one guy will win 1, one will win 2, therefore the earlier matches don't really matter' booking pattern. I mean, WWE has a gigantic roster and it seems they run out of fresh matches for top guys in 6 weeks, at least it took RoH months to do so for Lethal. Not that I didn't enjoy Cesaro/Sheamus but the fuckers are going to have wrestled 10+ times on TV/PPV before too long. God drat. Obviously it helps RoH a lot that they're filling like 20 fewer hours per month...
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Aug 16, 2016 13:50
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I watch ROH for good wrestling and if the storytelling is good too, awesome, but if not, it doesn't significantly take away from the product for me.
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Aug 16, 2016 14:39
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sportsgenius86 posted:I watch ROH for good wrestling and if the storytelling is good too, awesome, but if not, it doesn't significantly take away from the product for me. I used to be able to watch ROH like that but not anymore and I'm not sure why.
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Aug 16, 2016 15:46
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sportsgenius86 posted:I watch ROH for good wrestling and if the storytelling is good too, awesome, but if not, it doesn't significantly take away from the product for me. This is pretty much it for me, as well as ROH being a very good live product that comes to Toronto often enough with the NJPW folks in tow. If it doesn't have great stories, I'm not mad.
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Aug 16, 2016 17:13
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I used to be able to watch ROH like that but not anymore and I'm not sure why. I feel similarly and I think that it has to do with the prevalence of good wrestling everywhere. WWE has great wrestlers on the roster, NJPW is easily accessed, local indies even have ridiculous quality in the right market. ROH has lost its niche in my mind and I need a good story to make the good wrestling feel like it matters.
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Aug 17, 2016 02:26
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Charles Gnarwin posted:I feel similarly and I think that it has to do with the prevalence of good wrestling everywhere. WWE has great wrestlers on the roster, NJPW is easily accessed, local indies even have ridiculous quality in the right market. ROH has lost its niche in my mind and I need a good story to make the good wrestling feel like it matters. Yeah I'm in the same boat. NJPW has great matches and has a big time feel. WWE has a lot of the workers I loved in ROH, working great matches. ROH can't rely on being "that company you go to for good in ring action" anymore, and I'm not sure what they're left with. Like every company, they need a real star to draw people in, that you can't see elsewhere. Lethal is cool but he's not that dude for me.
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Aug 17, 2016 02:36
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For me, however, when I tune into ROH, I know I'm going to get great wrestling. RAW can't match that, despite the talent they have.
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Aug 17, 2016 02:46
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triplexpac posted:Yeah I'm in the same boat. NJPW has great matches and has a big time feel. WWE has a lot of the workers I loved in ROH, working great matches. ROH can't rely on being "that company you go to for good in ring action" anymore, and I'm not sure what they're left with. ROH: We're not TNA!
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Aug 17, 2016 02:50
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Davros1 posted:For me, however, when I tune into ROH, I know I'm going to get great wrestling. RAW can't match that, despite the talent they have. I thought you were saying ROH TV vs. a WWE PPV.
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Aug 17, 2016 02:50
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I thought you were saying ROH TV vs. a WWE PPV. WWE's PPVs and RAWs are basically interchangeable at this point
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Aug 17, 2016 03:09
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Davros1 posted:WWE's PPVs and RAWs are basically interchangeable at this point Um....no? What are you on? I don't remember the last WWE show other than Mania 32 that didn't have one 4*+ match on it. WWE PPVs have been legit really loving good since, say,, Mania 31.
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Aug 17, 2016 03:22
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triplexpac posted:Yeah I'm in the same boat. NJPW has great matches and has a big time feel. WWE has a lot of the workers I loved in ROH, working great matches. ROH can't rely on being "that company you go to for good in ring action" anymore, and I'm not sure what they're left with.
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Aug 17, 2016 03:24
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I know ROH is focused on the flyers now with the CMLL agreement but Rush vs a Briscoe might be my biggest dream match right now.
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Aug 18, 2016 03:28
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After you factor out the NJPW contingent, ROH's biggest draw are the Briscoes. Jay's a great hand but they don't have anyone big name enough on the singles side to make it worthwhile to take the belt off him. Plus they're also hurting on the angles side too.
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Aug 18, 2016 05:17
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I'd assume the plan is, Cole wins title, holds it for a while, eventually loses it to O' Reilly.
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Aug 18, 2016 06:59
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I'd assume the plan is, Cole wins title, holds it for a while, eventually loses it to O' Reilly. They really should have had Cole win it in the triple threat months ago and be close to having O'Reilly win the title by now. The holding pattern they were in during the spring and summer was awful, whether it was the result of Lethal politicking, the shakeups going on backstage, or whatever else.
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Aug 18, 2016 08:12
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I'm glad Lethal held it longer as his local hero title defenses were really fun. Cole doesn't need to hold it long to drop it to our boy Tanahashi one on one.
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Aug 18, 2016 08:58
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I'd assume the plan is, Cole wins title, holds it for a while, eventually loses it to O' Reilly. Yep
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Aug 18, 2016 11:19
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ROH's PPV is going to be streaming live on NJPW World. In Japan only. unless you use VPNs
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Aug 19, 2016 06:46
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I'd be really curious to find out how many Japanese fans have enough interest to stream an ROH show, even one with NJPW guys on it. I'd probably watch a lot more New Japan if their shows came on at 10 AM rather than in the middle of the night.
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Aug 19, 2016 07:01
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Grozz Nuy posted:I'd be really curious to find out how many Japanese fans have enough interest to stream an ROH show, even one with NJPW guys on it. I'd probably watch a lot more New Japan if their shows came on at 10 AM rather than in the middle of the night. There were a few weeks where more people were watching the CMLL Friday night show on New Japan World than for free on youtube
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Aug 19, 2016 13:04
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Marty Scurll signed with ROH (I am very into this) https://twitter.com/ringofhonor/status/767814093000540160
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Aug 22, 2016 22:12
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^ Beat me to it! Apparently Marty Scurll has signed with ROH and will start on the Reach for the Sky tour. Was a bit doubtful of getting tickets since they were pretty expensive, but I think I'm going to bite the bullet now since I'm moving to London. Will be my 3rd country seeing ROH in.
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Aug 22, 2016 22:13
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Woooow that's a really surprising get, I hadn't heard any connection of Marty to ROH at all. That's a great fit though, ROH TV really needs more guys that can sell storylines and Marty's got the personality to do that in spades.
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Aug 22, 2016 22:24
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That's great news for ROH, now sign Corey Hollis and Jon Gresham
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Aug 23, 2016 00:18
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Anyone going to Field of Honor? I get weekends off for the next few weeks and there is a lot right across from the stadium so I can go with my knee in the shape it is.
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Aug 23, 2016 01:52
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MassRafTer posted:Anyone going to Field of Honor? I get weekends off for the next few weeks and there is a lot right across from the stadium so I can go with my knee in the shape it is. I wish I could but I ended up getting roped into another Vegas trip at a price I couldn't refuse.
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Aug 23, 2016 01:59
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MassRafTer posted:Anyone going to Field of Honor? I get weekends off for the next few weeks and there is a lot right across from the stadium so I can go with my knee in the shape it is. Go to this instead https://twitter.com/Toffile/status/767887548010160129
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Aug 23, 2016 02:02
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exploding mummy posted:Go to this instead Is Cody going to pay me?
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Aug 23, 2016 02:56
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Adam Cole winning the title and going over to Japan next month should kill all these rules or something that he will leave for WWE at the end of they year. No point in these hints happening if he is going to WWE. I don't buy any of this talk at all that Cole, the Bucks, Lethal, Fish and O'Reilly are all going to leave for WWE when the their deals are up. At best only one will go if even that. Besides what I said about Cole, with the Bucks it's all about how much they make, creative freedom and merchandise money. Fish and O'Reilly are top acts in ROH and will be going heavyweight in New Japan. Lethal feels like someone who is a lifer for ROH. Plus, ROH now has an extra added perk with the CMLL relationship in addition to New Japan. Not sure where people keep getting all this WWE talk from with these guys, especially this talk of most or all these names going all at once
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Aug 23, 2016 08:24
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Roque11 posted:Adam Cole winning the title and going over to Japan next month should kill all these rules or something that he will leave for WWE at the end of they year. No point in these hints happening if he is going to WWE. I don't buy any of this talk at all that Cole, the Bucks, Lethal, Fish and O'Reilly are all going to leave for WWE when the their deals are up. At best only one will go if even that. Besides what I said about Cole, with the Bucks it's all about how much they make, creative freedom and merchandise money. Fish and O'Reilly are top acts in ROH and will be going heavyweight in New Japan. Lethal feels like someone who is a lifer for ROH. Is this like when Quack told people to post on chikarafans?
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Aug 23, 2016 12:23
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The Bucks I could see leaving because they've done all they could in the Indy's and Japan at this point; WWE has also had its eyes on Cole for a long time. If WWE wants someone they can usually get him/her.
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Aug 23, 2016 12:25
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Yeah the departures are still happening. The grievances are still there and have gotten worse.
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Aug 23, 2016 12:51
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rovert posted:Yeah the departures are still happening. The grievances are still there and have gotten worse. Yeah, but if they want to work for NJPW more than WWE, they're probably sticking around anyway. Not that RoH having all of its biggest stars going to the Big Mike part time RoH schedule wouldn't be a disaster for them regardless
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Aug 23, 2016 13:20
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rovert posted:Yeah the departures are still happening. The grievances are still there and have gotten worse. What are the grievances? Money? Booking/creative? Both?
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