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Geostomp posted:I'm kind of curious as to what kind of testimony the Feds really need for so many plea deals. Surely they have enough to bury the Bundys in the deepest pits they have already? They've probably got more than enough based on what the Bundy's have posted on Facebook alone. My guess is it's all part of showing the world that they're spineless cowards to their core and happy to turn on each other to save their own skin. With any luck the Feds will release the tapes of the underlings begging to rat on the Bundy's for leniency.
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I hope squishface gets the lightest sentence he's my favorite.
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Bombadilillo posted:Gonna be a bunch of dissapointed goons when Bundy gets 5-10. 
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Aug 16, 2016 03:15
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not as disappointed as the Bundys when they get out of prison and Hillary is president and nobody gives a poo poo about their hero narrative anymore. It's just them, bills to pay, and the darkness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gFnCwVqbWs
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red19fire posted:They've probably got more than enough based on what the Bundy's have posted on Facebook alone. My guess is it's all part of showing the world that they're spineless cowards to their core and happy to turn on each other to save their own skin. With any luck the Feds will release the tapes of the underlings begging to rat on the Bundy's for leniency. See the Mafia. It used to be pretty common for mobsters to go to jail on their "omerta" code of silence since it would be a short stint behind bars and they'd be taken care of while in prison, which would also mean they'd get paroled earlier since they're not looking for trouble, and once they got out, they'd have protection and opportunities to rebuild their standing. Then, in the '70s, Nixon gets a whole bunch of drug laws and the RICO act passed, and suddenly, getting sent to the slammer for two-three years and a good chance to get out early with good behavior starts looking like minimum 20 years with no parole. So, what started happening was mobsters started snitching on one another. It gets so bad in the mafia that anyone dealing with those charges are preemptively assassinated to prevent ratting out their coworkers and superiors, so that gets even more mobsters willing to cooperate because now their lives are at risk even if they were made men following their mafia code. It's said that drug laws were the primary reason for the collapse of the Mob because how could you do business if you're either having people rat you out or you're murdering your own tightly-knit crime family to preserve it. No one would want to join up if they're going to get murdered or sent up the river by their friends. The Mafia is still around but has weakened it's scope significantly. It's why the common interpretation these days is "The Sopranos", where the best Tony Soprano could do was a middle-class life in New Jersey and a strip club, and no longer The Godfather, where Michael Corleone has mansions in New Jersey, Lake Tahoe, and Italy and almost had Cuba and the Vatican. Krinkle posted:I hope squishface gets the lightest sentence he's my favorite. Ryan might but he's also probably not going to live to see it. Like probably before trial, the way things are looking. I'm guessing that his imprisonment is beginning to get to him and he's realizing the consequences of no longer being a rancher.
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Young Freud posted:Also, linked from that article: Roseburg Boy Names Prize Steer After Slain Refuge Occupier I don't blame the kid, being 10 he's just repeating the bullshit his parents fed him.
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Alan Smithee posted:not as disappointed as the Bundys when they get out of prison and Hillary is president and nobody gives a poo poo about their hero narrative anymore. It's just them, bills to pay, and the darkness You got me right on the edge dude keep going to the part where their skellington cows are auctioned off for back taxes and they lay unmourned in pauper's graves. I need to pop off this nut.
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Otisburg posted:You got me right on the edge dude keep going to the part where their skellington cows are auctioned off for back taxes and they lay unmourned in pauper's graves. I need to pop off this nut. One or more of the Bundys will write a book in prison and the federal government will seize the proceeds of the book to pay for the damage they did at Malheur
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Personally I'd like to see them get 10 year sentences but get fines so steep that they'll be paying 25% of their wage in garnishments literally for the rest of their life They get out of prison and their kids and estranged wives won't talk to them and they can't pay their bills, the bundys will have to move in together and share a trailer in the desert and be those kinds of people who say "Oh, I can't have a bank account" when they get asked about direct deposit at a new job or whatever btw if someone ever says the phrase "I can't have a bank account" to you there is a 100% chance they are a garbage person
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Otisburg posted:You got me right on the edge dude keep going to the part where their skellington cows are auctioned off for back taxes and they lay unmourned in pauper's graves. I need to pop off this nut. They open up a hot dog stand *blows in your ear*
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Otisburg posted:You got me right on the edge dude keep going to the part where their skellington cows are auctioned off for back taxes and they lay unmourned in pauper's graves. I need to pop off this nut. I wish I saved this post from the last thread, so I'm paraphrasing: Some goon posted:It's FiniCUM as in 'I'm finna cum when these shitters get loving wrecked'.
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Young Freud posted:You can bet that any plea deals involved turning on the Bundy clan. No, they're going to throw the book at them for both Bunkerville and Malheur and they're using the others to sell them out. The Feds have experience dealing with mafiosos and terrorists by having the underlings turn on the big man that some podunk insurrectionists aren't going to escape them.
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Hazo posted:Still amazing to me that in every one of these articles the garbage media either glosses over or omits the fact that he was shot while trying to murder federal officers quote:A 10-year-old Roseburg boy has honored one of the occupiers of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge by naming his prize-winning steer after him. Gotta love that choice of language too There's always two sides, and there's no right answers.
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Aug 16, 2016 16:06
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he named a steer after Lavoy can I name a queer after one of the bundies
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Bombadilillo posted:Gonna be a bunch of dissapointed goons when Bundy gets 5-10. lol i remember when everyone was screaming "THE FEDS ARE JUST GONNA LET THESE GUYS WALK, THEY SHOULDA ROLLED IN AND EXECUTED EVERYONE BY NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!  "
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so basically everyone is pleading/flipping and the bundys and a few loyal followers. i am ok with that. the bundys and the diehards will be in fed pen forever and the ones who flipped will probably be hated by the community and go into obscurity.
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He was a Trump organizer, Bundy supporter, and married to a GOP state assemblywoman. Just imagine what horrible opinions he must hold on every conceivable subject if this is just the stuff we know about.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:so basically everyone is pleading/flipping and the bundys and a few loyal followers. i am ok with that. the bundys and the diehards will be in fed pen forever and the ones who flipped will probably be hated by the community and go into obscurity. This is pretty much how the FBI rolls. Offer reduced sentences to the lower level people that pose little to no risk of being this stupid again in exchange for testimony against the people they want to make examples out of, and the FBI does not gently caress around when it wants to make an example out of someone.
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I would be extremely surprised if any member of the main bundy clan ever got out of prison :S might out of pity If Ammon ever gets out though he'll be exiting prison straight to a convalescent home.
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Young Freud posted:And that steer is going to suffer the same fate as Lavoy: being third-rate and going to slaughter. Gonna go out the same as it's namesake, shot in the head for the benefit of others without an ounce of understanding why
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What happened to that douchebag RWmedia blowhard that YouTubed his thrilling antics of Yelling at Protestors with a Bullhorn and dramatically called Kylo Meth the night of the Big Escape, who later said he wasn't an occupier but a JOURNALIST documenting everything? Because I really hope he can't cop a plea deal. I'm also surprised Barbie McGunTits wasn't implicated for her part in calling the Finnicum Four during the standoff.
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Santilli has only been charged with conspiracy to impede US officers (hasn't pled). Trial date is in September. Also has 16 assault, obstruction and firearm charges from Bunkerville, in which the government considers him a "leader and organizer of the conspiracy".
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Aug 17, 2016 09:29
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And every Pete Santilli show that had anything remotely occupation related is being presented as evidence.
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Aug 17, 2016 11:37
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Can we charge the assemblywoman for aiding and abetting for buying mcdonalds from portland or whatever
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Alan Smithee posted:Can we charge the assemblywoman for aiding and abetting for buying mcdonalds from portland or whatever Probably not, but her interference with the negotiations should be worth something.
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I dunno, i think even the FBI thought the "negotiations" was a joke, hence why our hero Mark spent more time trolling than anything
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Aug 17, 2016 23:25
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I hope Mark got some sort of commendation and an office joke trophy for his desk.
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Bad Moon posted:I hope Mark got some sort of commendation and an office joke trophy for his desk. they're giving him a secret 24/7 livestream into the bundys' cells for the rest of his life
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You missed the best part. https://twitter.com/SwidSeor/status/766076107783143424
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Alan Smithee posted:Can we charge the assemblywoman for aiding and abetting for buying mcdonalds from portland or whatever Yes, she is a garbage person but she was the one who talked Cliven Bundy into hopping on a plane so maybe they gave her a pass.
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Aug 18, 2016 11:23
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Cliven Bundy getting on a plane was just the most amazingly stupid thing to do.
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Aug 18, 2016 12:09
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Fiore got played like a fiddle by the Feds, and delivered them one of the biggest fish they'd been looking for. I wonder how many death threats she got for that little stunt?
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Icon Of Sin posted:Fiore got played like a fiddle by the Feds, and delivered them one of the biggest fish they'd been looking for. I wonder how many death threats she got for that little stunt? That's the best part. By not reeling her in, they destroyed her credibility and marred the credibly of any other politician who wants to align with the SovCit loonies.
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One of my favorite Fiore moments was when she was in a call with all the local Harney county officials and tried to call Ammon a rancher. The judge, already at wits end with these loons, immediately cuts her off and calls him a used car salesman that happened to grow up on a ranch.
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Mr. Nice! posted:One of my favorite Fiore moments was when she was in a call with all the local Harney county officials and tried to call Ammon a rancher. The judge, already at wits end with these loons, immediately cuts her off and calls him a used car salesman that happened to grow up on a ranch. That interaction was esp. hilarious since the judge is kind of a right wing sagebrush crazy himself He wasn't just pissed at the Bundys for being a bunch of wannabe pretend ranchers, he was pissed at them for how massively their dumb stunt discredited the sagebrush movement and how hard it is going to be to get traction anymore through legislative means And he was right, of course. It takes a hell of a lot more political capital now to get anything done on "giving the land back to the states" and I can't imagine the handful of rural yahoos it affects will ever have any luck getting the process moving again. Good. I'd rather have wild birds than a bunch of dumb ranchers living on handouts from the federal government anyway
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Your Gay Uncle posted:Yes, she is a garbage person but she was the one who talked Cliven Bundy into hopping on a plane so maybe they gave her a pass. can we give her a medal so everyone thinks she's a false flag inside jobber crisis actor and then all the heehaws tear her to pieces like dogs
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