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VanSandman posted:CPS bends over backwards not to take children away, and kids DIE because of it. Anyone who's kids they take away looks like a trainwreck from nearly any angle. This is so true. Some "homesteaders" had their 10 kids taken last year, and the fringe right had an absolute loving conniption fit about it. The kids were living in a shack with no walls, surrounded literal human feces and animal feces, while dad was stealing the neighbors water and getting into shouting matches with the cops, and ending up in jail. And the kids were returned when the internet crowdfunded them a shed. Because FREEDOM and HOMESCHOOLING.
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Yeah, the right wing and anti-CPS people latch onto stuff like Justina Pelletier, though, and put it into the framework of "Liberals want to steal children from god-fearing Christians in order to indoctrinate them!" Michelle Bachmann got her start in the homeschooling sect of those kind of people.
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they hate cps because they love child abuse it really is that simple, trust me
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Space Poodle posted:This is so true. Some "homesteaders" had their 10 kids taken last year, and the fringe right had an absolute loving conniption fit about it. The kids were living in a shack with no walls, surrounded literal human feces and animal feces, while dad was stealing the neighbors water and getting into shouting matches with the cops, and ending up in jail. And the kids were returned when the internet crowdfunded them a shed. Because FREEDOM and HOMESCHOOLING. You're far more likely to have your children taken from you for being too liberal with your parenting, if anything.
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Not sure if this has been posted yet, but Omarosa says that we will "have to bow down to President Trump." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYMEvuZz1RU Skip to 3:10 if you want to see quote in question.
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NippleFloss posted:People keep saying this, but what the media really wants is viewers and they seem to have decided that filming a three month long slow motion train wreck and commenting on the expanding carnage 24/7 is equally as entertaining to people as a made up horse race narrative that nobody would buy anyway. They've been fairly savage to trump since it became obvious that the stink of loser is all over him. Everyone enjoys a good dogpile and he's not nearly likeable enough for a redemption arc. And don't forget he's more or less declared war on the media. Add the fact that his campaign can't even manage to parry away the usual media attacks and suddenly the media is poking a candidate in a way that they don't usually get to and there's blood in the water and everyone is hungry. Plus it seems like there's something fundamental about the way Trump lies that seems to profoundly offend the media. All politicians lie, of course but not usually so blatantly and not about things that are as easily verifiable. I certainly don't think this is the end of "truth is in the middle" journalism. In fact, I'm betting the media will overcorrect for the next Republican candidate –presuming he isn't Trump 2.0.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:You're far more likely to have your children taken from you for being too liberal with your parenting, if anything. How does letting your kids walk to a park and back on their own constitute "free range" parenting?
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I was listening to the Aug 4th episode of Primary Concerns and they had a journalism professor who used the metaphor of technical debt, he didn't coin it a new name but I'll call it "truth debt." Basically political journalism faces the fundamental contradiction between "reporting the world as it is" and "even-handedness and fairness." The truth isn't fair and balanced. I'm paraphrasing his thesis here a little, but the current state of the GOP can be blamed on the GOP pushing the scale too far into prioritizing "even-handedness", with the media playing along (because it's easy and because it's profitable). So "even-handedness" and false balance has become more important than reporting facts, and this has accrued "truth debt" which keeps building and building up. This has lead to the current state of predominant false balance and equal time being given to disproportionate issues (Emails vs. racism) or ridiculous positions ("Global warming is a scam!"). Trump is pushing this to a breaking point and has taken full advantage of the structural problem. Political journalism might still have its Murrow moment and realize that when a candidate is attacking the electoral process itself, that's no longer within a horse race narrative, but calls for the fourth estate to inform the public. The professor also ridiculed Chuck Todd for saying he's not a political actor or part of the political establishment, that was great.
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Yinlock posted:While this is 100% true, is America ready for the public realizing the midterms actually matter and giving itself election fatigue 24/7 without the blessed year or two where politicians shut the gently caress up. I'm sure the GOP would love for widespread voter apathy for the 2018 midterms so only their base shows up. It's already bad enough that the Dems have to defend all the Senate seats they won in 2012, a lot of them in pretty red states.
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comes along bort posted:How does letting your kids walk to a park and back on their own constitute "free range" parenting? "Stranger Danger" really freaked out a lot of soccer moms. Moral panic has weird consequences.
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comes along bort posted:How does letting your kids walk to a park and back on their own constitute "free range" parenting? Fewer kids, more paranoid parenting to make good on their genetic investment. 
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No no guys I get that. I thought the whole free range thing had more to do with letting your kids have forks near wall sockets and keeping subversive literature in the house, not little Jodhpur and AMRAAM strolling the equivalent of a few blocks down the road to a public area.
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I don't see the media ever dropping their dependence on journalistic parity, they strained and pushed out the mental turd that is "Paul Ryan is a serious policy and budget wonk" in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Trump and his subsequent failure will just be the opening they need to push the "well now the serious adults are back in control" narrative, even though nothing fundamentally has changed about the party or its beliefs, ignoring all of the Trump rear end-kissing and justifications said 'serious adults' have gone through.
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FetusSlapper posted:"Stranger Danger" really freaked out a lot of soccer moms. Moral panic has weird consequences. Maryland suburbs is how. Kids who live in literally the safest neighborhoods in the country are kept under lock and key. My nephew isn't even allowed to go to the neighborhood basketball court that's 50 feet away without an adult. He's 11.
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Neeksy posted:I don't see the media ever dropping their dependence on journalistic parity, they strained and pushed out the mental turd that is "Paul Ryan is a serious policy and budget wonk" in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Trump and his subsequent failure will just be the opening they need to push the "well now the serious adults are back in control" narrative, even though nothing fundamentally has changed about the party or its beliefs, ignoring all of the Trump rear end-kissing and justifications said 'serious adults' have gone through. They already have by branding this a shakeup. Manafort is still there. Trump is not changing. This was not a shakeup.
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ErIog posted:They already have by branding this a shakeup. Manafort is still there. Trump is not changing. This was not a shakeup. says who
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ErIog posted:They already have by branding this a shakeup. Manafort is still there. Trump is not changing. This was not a shakeup. Shakeups this late in a Presidential campaign are usually seen as a bad sign though. Like the Trump campaign is pushing back against the idea that this is a shakeup.
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mrbradlymrmartin posted:they hate cps because they love child abuse They dismiss child abuse as "Discipline" and dismiss children who die from said abuse by fantasizing that the child will go to heaven, so no loss.
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quote:As a Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Bernie Sanders vociferously argued for political transparency, especially when money was concerned. Can't say I'm very surprised.
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https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/766242738463502336 The "leaked" document linked in the tweet is amazing.
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Charlatan using a party he refused to belong to as a microphone for 30 years turns out to have skeletons in his closet, quelle surprise.
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I've got the stupidest loving friends. I have a bunch of Jill Stein supporting friends that are pissed, pissed, about the leaks from the FBI investigation. Who are the pissed at? Hillary Clinton for bullying journalists into not releasing the information.
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https://twitter.com/JohnDingell/status/766247806961156096 Dingell is a must-follow for anyone who has misses the last oh several months of straight fire he's been laying down.
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I'm guessing that means that he thinks the pollsters are as wrong about him as they were about Brexit. I'm surprised he knows about Brexit. Or maybe its a moment of terrible clarity and he has just realised that his becoming president would be as disastrous for the US the Brexit result was and will be for Britain? Pookah fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Aug 18, 2016 |
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Oh, he's really gonna do it. He's going to seriously try to get his idiot followers to demand full on seccession after he loses in the largest "take my ball and go home" tantrum possible.
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Well, he's right, he'll be remembered as an embarrassment that was empowered by racist voters.
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Geostomp posted:Oh, he's really gonna do it. He's going to seriously try to get his idiot followers to demand full on seccession after he loses in the largest "take my ball and go home" tantrum possible. The most plausible explanation I've seen is that he made that tweet because he thinks he will win despite being down in the polls, just as "leave" won despite being down in the polls. But, of course, the two situations are not analogous except in extremely superficial ways.
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Pookah posted:I'm guessing that means that he thinks the pollsters are as wrong about him as they were about Brexit. The polls are underestimating him by 1%? It's plausible Clinton only has a 7-point lead nationally.
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Jackson Taus posted:Shakeups this late in a Presidential campaign are usually seen as a bad sign though. Like the Trump campaign is pushing back against the idea that this is a shakeup. You're an idiot. It's August. The campaign just started.
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ErIog posted:You're an idiot. It's August. The campaign just started. A shakeup in August, a notoriously quiet month, is indeed not a great thing, idiot. Also, the campaign has been going for 13 months with 2.5 to go idiot
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VitalSigns posted:The polls are underestimating him by 1%? Oh I know it's a completely delusional idea that no-one with an ounce of brains would believe, but hey, it's Trump.
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ErIog posted:You're an idiot. It's August. The campaign just started. That's too late, most people start their campaign years ago and slowly ramp up, jump it up a notch to get the nomination, and then really start throwing fire when they have it. Trump constantly shits himself and still hasn't actually started running a real campaign. He's done.
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Geostomp posted:Oh, he's really gonna do it. He's going to seriously try to get his idiot followers to demand full on seccession after he loses in the largest "take my ball and go home" tantrum possible. Trumpistan will be a large, narrow, roughly trapezoidal country. At its widest, it will extend from east of Denver to west of Kansas City. Its southwest and southeast borders will extend diagonally to a point at the Odessa-Midland area, and it's northwest/northeast borders will reach a point at Bismarck. The only thing that will interrupt the arrow-straight borders of Trumpistan will be a slight bulge in its southwest encompassing Colorado Springs. Capital and largest city: Oklahoma City. Trumpistan's main industry will be extorting fees from trucking companies for passage across its infinite wastes, and its greatest political problem will be secessionist attempts by indian tribes. Most issues will stem from a weak central government, and what central government there is will be described by the New York Times as a "...kleptocratic nepo-state".
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mrbradlymrmartin posted:they hate cps because they love child abuse It's not child abuse if it isn't done in anger.
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ErIog posted:You're an idiot. It's August. The campaign just started. And he hasn't even STARTED on Hillary yet!
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Boogaleeboo posted:That's too late, most people start their campaign years ago and slowly ramp up, jump it up a notch to get the nomination, and then really start throwing fire when they have it. Yeah, in many ways it's reminiscent of how the Bernie campaign tried to conduct itself, with the twist that Trump supporters can't claim that no one's heard of him yet.
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Pookah posted:I'm guessing that means that he thinks the pollsters are as wrong about him as they were about Brexit. I'm surprised he knows about Brexit. He knows so much about Brexit he was congratulating people about it when visiting his golf course in Scotland
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