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Just watch, Sakakura's going to become the new head of the future foundation and then essentially control the world
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I want to see some inverse Danganronpa where the world is full of hopeful people and a plucky advocate of despair fights against the powers that be and gives moving speeches to promote their cause*. I'm imagining some scene where a room full of people are like "the glass is half full! there's always the potential to be happy!" and this one guy/girl goes "actually, everything is hopeless" while exciting music plays in the background. *I guess you could say this applies to Junko, though in her case it's largely a matter of exploiting pre-existing despair (or potential for despair).
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Aug 17, 2016 02:37
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I want to see Danganronpa that isn't forever based on two broad emotions constantly fighting against eachother
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Ytlaya posted:I want to see some inverse Danganronpa where the world is full of hopeful people and a plucky advocate of despair fights against the powers that be and gives moving speeches to promote their cause*. I'm imagining some scene where a room full of people are like "the glass is half full! there's always the potential to be happy!" and this one guy/girl goes "actually, everything is hopeless" while exciting music plays in the background. Have you seen Sayonara Zetsubou San?
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Aug 17, 2016 05:03
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Butt Ghost posted:I want to see Danganronpa that isn't forever based on two broad emotions constantly fighting against eachother I want to see the opposite with increasingly absurd emotions and combinations. Fear vs Dissapointment. Joy vs Smugness.
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Butt Ghost posted:I want to see Danganronpa that isn't forever based on two broad emotions constantly fighting against eachother I want Danganronpa like that except there's one guy who's constantly talking about hope and despair and nobody, including Monokuma, has any idea what he's talking about.
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Aug 17, 2016 05:44
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BlazeEmblem posted:I'm just saying that it seems to count Hiro, who is not participating, and just because it shows that 10 people are alive, does not mean that there are only ten people there. I just think that it shouldn't be considered absolutely true for who is alive or dead. Actually the fact that it seems to count Hagakure is what's weird, at the beginning of the 4th episode in that recap Monokuma said that Hagakure is not part of the killing game and the number of people alive seens to just be about the people in the game since it goes every time someone in the game dies, it even showed us in this episode that a extra person died before we say Izayoi's body. I think the fact that Hagakure is in the opening is to trick us and there's a extra person in the building.
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Aug 17, 2016 05:47
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alcharagia posted:I want Danganronpa like that except there's one guy who's constantly talking about hope and despair and nobody, including Monokuma, has any idea what he's talking about. Wasn't that the deal with Komaeda in Danganronpa 2? 
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Aug 17, 2016 06:01
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littleorv posted:Have you seen Sayonara Zetsubou San? Kafuka would probably either be Junko's greatest nemesis or her greatest unwitting pawn.
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IceBorg posted:Actually the fact that it seems to count Hagakure is what's weird, at the beginning of the 4th episode in that recap Monokuma said that Hagakure is not part of the killing game and the number of people alive seens to just be about the people in the game since it goes every time someone in the game dies, it even showed us in this episode that a extra person died before we say Izayoi's body. Well, I guess it depends on if you count Monaca's robot as a person.
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Aug 17, 2016 06:26
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LostRook posted:Fear vs Dissapointment. Naegi, you have to conquer the disappointment that Junko is spreading. Make her feel fear!
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Aug 17, 2016 09:18
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Introducing the new cast of the next Dangan Ronpa game: the Cobra Unit!
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Yinlock posted:Also I think Zero says that the student council members were actively trying to kill each-other, so Izuru might not be personally responsible for that entire thing but he definitely had a kill-count there. I'm guessing it involved Chiaki somehow, because Despair. This is correct, the First Mutual Killing Game was more of a Battle Royale setup where the student council had to kill each other and there could only be one survivor. Ultimately there were actually two survivors, Izuku, who won the game, and the student council president, who was rendered comatose and kept in that state by Matsuda, then later killed.
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fractalairduct posted:This is correct, the First Mutual Killing Game was more of a Battle Royale setup where the student council had to kill each other and there could only be one survivor. Ultimately there were actually two survivors, Izuku, who won the game, and the student council president, who was rendered comatose and kept in that state by Matsuda, then later killed. Was the book that explicit about what happened? My memory of that part is vague, but I was under the impression Junko made it look like Izuru was the mastermind behind the game (she probably influenced him to do it), and he was not a participant. Junko herself acted as if she discovered the scene after everything was done, hence traumatic memory loss. I did pick up the book this morning and reread Yuto's final speech about talent and how it binds you.
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I read a probably-crappy translation of it, so I can't say for sure either way. I suppose I could also be misremembering.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Wasn't that the deal with Komaeda in Danganronpa 2? Yes exactly, I want Nagito in a non-Hopespair game.
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Butt Ghost posted:I want to see Danganronpa that isn't forever based on two broad emotions constantly fighting against eachother alcharagia posted:I want Danganronpa like that except there's one guy who's constantly talking about hope and despair and nobody, including Monokuma, has any idea what he's talking about. I thought it was consistent in the series that people who are constantly like HOPE DESPAIR HOPE DESPAIR are super nuts. Naegi only tends to bring it up to shut down Monokuma/Junko, everyone else seems so obsessed that they drift from reality. I wouldn't count on it going away anytime soon though, I don't really mind it either way personally. EDIT: though that's probably hypocritical of me considering how much I rag on Zero Escape for it's "everything was magic welp bye" endings (good games otherwise though)
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No, because in the end they always defeat the baddie through the power of Hope To the point where Hinata hopes so hard he goes super saiyan. Butt Ghost fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Aug 18, 2016 |
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Aug 18, 2016 00:45
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Butt Ghost posted:No, because it they end they always defeat the baddie through the power of Hope Hey man there was no hope there, that was the power of FUTURE!
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Yinlock posted:EDIT: though that's probably hypocritical of me considering how much I rag on Zero Escape for it's "everything was magic welp bye" endings It's no use. You were born a hoper.
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alcharagia posted:It's no use. You were born a hoper. my hope has brought me despair
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Aug 18, 2016 05:46
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Kamukura Izuru seems more existentially bored with existence than I had imagined. Like I kind of pictured him being slightly pissed off all the time but he comes across as more robotic. And it works because it gives him an alien feel that makes you think he would be willing to do all the heinous poo poo he does out of intellectual curiosity as an inhuman monster, as opposed to it being rooted in some sort of grudge or nihilism If anything, he takes Junko's despair-inducing boredom and cranks it to superhuman levels. Pretty well thought out characterization.
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I have no idea what they're doing with Ryota now, but after that last scene he's got to be involved in something big.
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That last scene, I really hope the 'future arc is Ryota's Despair Anime' theory doesn't turn out to be true. Also, God drat Junko does not mess about. So much for her "We had a peaceful year of schooling" line.
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I have a feeling Ryota's Hope anime is gonna be warped into a Despair anime. By the time Future Arc happens, maybe he's repented or it was done without his permission. Or he's the attacker. Either way, nothing good can come from him meeting Junko. I wasn't expecting him to become such an important character when the show started. I know Despair Arc is about how everything happened, but I kinda wish that it spent a little more time with the cast of DR2. I'm sure we'll see more of them as it goes on considering they turn Despair themselves but, I like seeing them interact as normal students and it's a shame that outside of the first two episodes there really hasn't been much of that.
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Aug 18, 2016 17:31
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I like the new intro. Also while it's easy to get hung up on Ryota and Izuru I think it's interesting that Junko during her torture decided to mimic Chisa's appearance perfectly which leads me to believe the Chisa in the theater in 1 is AI Junko #2 Edit: Also Ryoto is the Remnant of Despair, just realized the new Intro gave him the same color scheme as the students, red eyes as well. ThisIsACoolGuy fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Aug 18, 2016 |
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The incredibly upbeat ending theme kicking in during Junko's fateful encounter was great.
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also great is that you can tell the opening went from hope to despair because the gymnast's pure white pantyshot turned into a pitch black void of censorship
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Junko is really crazy. I know that's kind of a "Hey, water is wet." kind of fact, but eating food off of a plate with someone's eyeball on it? Jeez.Slokir posted:That last scene, I really hope the 'future arc is Ryota's Despair Anime' theory doesn't turn out to be true. 
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This episode is pretty whatever. Kamukura's about as dull of a character as I expected him to be and this Mitarai thing is gonna probably be resolved in literally the next episode at the rate everything's going.
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Aug 18, 2016 20:04
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Both episodes were kinda mediocre this week. I know they're setting up for the endgame, but not a whole lot actually happened. The most interesting bit was finding out about Sakakura's crush.
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Another thing foreshadowing Mitarai being Team Despair that I didn't notice at first. In the opening of episode 1 on both sides it shows the DR2 cast all doing terrible poo poo (or at least it implies it). SHSL Imposter is back to using Togami's persona during that clip meaning he doesn't feel the need to be Mitarai anymore despite saying he's done being Togami. As for the intros themselves: Episode 1-5 has "Hello, Hopes Peak Academy?" and it changes to "Hello, Hopes Peak Academy" in this episode. Also "If you see it you will break." Maybe it's talking about the Future side as it is a anime
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Aug 18, 2016 20:08
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:As for the intros themselves: Episode 1-5 has "Hello, Hopes Peak Academy?" and it changes to "Hello, Hopes Peak Academy" in this episode. Another small difference in the intro I noticed was that at the end, Chiaki was smiling. No clue what it means but I did see it. The biggest one I noticed other than the color shift was that everyone's eyes were red, except for Chiaki, and Chisa, whose eyes are closed during the sequence. Actually, I couldn't tell the color on the Imposter or Mitarai because they're placed far into the background of the shot but I assume they might be red too? On Future side, I'm pretty sure the intro has been getting messier and more distorted with each new episode. The murder previews at the start were clear and now they're more artistic, like the Despair side intro.
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Watching this is making me realize that I don't think I like Junko as a villain. Despair is such a vague catch-all motive, and her curazy being so unpredictable feels kind of lazy to me. She just does whatever the plot needs her to do. She just feels the fate on random people because they'll be important later.
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ApplesandOranges posted:Both episodes were kinda mediocre this week. I know they're setting up for the endgame, but not a whole lot actually happened. The most interesting bit was finding out about Sakakura's crush. I thought we'd already been told that Sakakura was into Munakata 
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Junko didn't suffer from the usual deification of her that is so prevalent in the franchise and Izuru went with her out of boredom rather than adoration like most of her sycophants. Not an amazing episode, but not a terrible one either. Which is okay for what is evidently setup for the big payoff later.
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Aug 18, 2016 21:22
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Junko sucks. Mukuro is cool.
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i'm also a fan of cliched love stories so i'm looking forward to real nanami and izuru reuniting in the final ep
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Rarity posted:I thought we'd already been told that Sakakura was into Munakata Yukizome's fantasies do not define reality. If they did, then Komaeda would just be eccentric and not a crazy person, and Peko would probably not be a cold blooded killer even before the influence of Junko's Krazy Kult
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voltcatfish posted:Junko sucks. Mukuro is cool. Eh, I kind of feel the opposite. Thus far, Mukuro's whole shtick has been "My little sister is abusing me.  " in-between moments of violence.Junko has at least been entertaining to watch.
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