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Oh Snapple! posted:I'll say fair enough on that. I only have ASoIaF to compare it to, but I agree that Erikson's respect for selflessness, and overall respect for humanity, is very refreshing. I think both series have a cynicism borne out of the horrors people are capable of, but whereas ASoIaF stews in it and finds no value in anything but ruthless pragmitism, Malazan finds value in the ways people counteract and cope with those horrors. I think DG struck a chord with me because the refugee plot is a timely analogue to what's happening around the world. Edit: A moment that touched me by catching me off guard was when the surviving refugees entered Aren and were kindly supported by the people inside. I was expecting them to be hateful shits who wanted them to get the hell out, so it was a relief that they were the polar opposite. snoremac fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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Tommofork posted:Dunno what the deal with Hairlock or Tattersail is, mages can usually make up their own name if they want. A lot of the mages do that whole wizard thing where they don't tell anybody their true name. Monocled Falcon posted:The bridgeburners are marines? I was aware that Sorry joined the marines but I thought that she had transferred into the regular army then the bridge burners behind the scenes. The Malazan Empire started on Malaz Island. It's a fairly small island and so all of their troops were marines and it just sort of stuck, IIRC.
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Khizan posted:The Malazan Empire started on Malaz Island. It's a fairly small island and so all of their troops were marines and it just sort of stuck, IIRC. Basically the picture I'm getting is that Lasseen doesn't really know how to utilize Kellanved's elite units. Or she's still trying to get rid of them.
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anilEhilated posted:
Or both!
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# ? Aug 15, 2016 11:32 |
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Holy poo poo, Karsa rules.
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I just finished the first part of House of Chains and absolutely loved it. I understand now what people mean when they say this series feels truly epic, what with how it introduces you to a story utterly removed from the established world and then slowly pulls back to reveal its place in the bigger picture. The writing is so tight. Karsa is awesome. And after that ending my mind is reeling. I'm flicking back through DG now.
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snoremac posted:first part of House of Chains snoremac posted:Karsa is awesome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99lyU5N--f8
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I don't know whether to be pleased or dismayed that someone can like early Karsa, (EARLY KARSA) and dislike Itkovian. It's like finding out dogs can talk or something.
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Early Karsa was fricken awesome. He never gives a single gently caress about anything. Itkovian took a while to grow on me. Third re-read and I started paying attention a bit more to characters I didn't really appreciate the first time around.
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Shockeh posted:I don't know whether to be pleased or dismayed that someone can like early Karsa, (EARLY KARSA) and dislike Itkovian. It's like finding out dogs can talk or something. He's hilarious. He wants to murder a thousand children to impress a girl! He makes the Malazans and T'lan Imass his sworn enemies the second he hears of them! He rescues a corpse from a shark because the shark has no right to steal his corpse! The whole section is a blast. I'd hazard a guess that his introduction just after Itkovian's death is on purpose, since he's his polar opposite on the compassion scale. They're very different characters so I'm not sure what you mean. Edit: Just thinking on the whole compassion thing, there are a couple of things that bothered me in this section: the 'eagerness' of the rape victims and the narrative's indifference to the consequences of Karsa's slaughters. Thinking on it, the events are depicted as Karsa interprets them, so what he sees as eagerness is probably just terrified submission, while the narrative's blind to any suffering because Karsa doesn't care about it. snoremac fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Aug 17, 2016 |
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Okay, you're fine. We were just worried you thought he was a cool badass dude, which is what some people come away from that section thinking was the point.
NmareBfly fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Aug 17, 2016 |
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Haha. No, he's a great character but a terrible person. I sympathized with his dad's anguish over what he's become. It's cool how at first you get the impression that Karsa is representative of his people only to find out that his zeal and bloody-mindedness is off the charts.
snoremac fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Aug 17, 2016 |
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Oh no he's very representative
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Erikson loves susurration, ochre, countenance, efficacy and narrowed eyes. What am I missing?
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Potsherds is the only other one I can come up with off hand. Definitely got most of them!
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TGG posted:Potsherds is the only other one I can come up with off hand. Definitely got most of them! Hey man, Archaeologists love potsherds.
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# ? Aug 18, 2016 09:56 |
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Also, coruscating.
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snoremac posted:Erikson loves susurration, ochre, countenance, efficacy and narrowed eyes. large women
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What no turgid?
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The air in these books is often febrile
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Gelid, on occasion .
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Found it!
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# ? Aug 18, 2016 20:40 |
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I seem to remember hearing a lot of ululating cries.
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# ? Aug 18, 2016 20:44 |
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Wait, he says it twelve times across 900 pages and that's a lot? I mean, sure it's an odd word, but that's not a lot right?
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At least they're cool sounding words.
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# ? Aug 18, 2016 21:30 |
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Everyone's forgetting Kalam rolling his shoulders.
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Gravity Cant Apple posted:Everyone's forgetting Kalam rolling his shoulders. The best part is Quick Ben calling him out on it
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"Crepuscular" is the word I picked up on and enjoy the most. I think he only uses it two or three times, but one of my friends read GotM and immediately asked me wtf that word meant and if it was "that kind of book" to use pretentious words. Not even a month later, it was used on an episode of Archer to describe an ocelot or jaguar or something.
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# ? Aug 19, 2016 00:12 |
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Also, detritus
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Concurred posted:Also, detritus To be fair, that's another big archaeologist word. Makes sense with all the ruins in the series.
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# ? Aug 19, 2016 01:35 |
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No author will ever repeat as much as Robert Jordan.
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Thats bullshit. I am angry at your accusation. *tugs braid* No, no, calm down Spermy. Calm down. *smoothes skirt* Ah, thats better.
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# ? Aug 19, 2016 01:56 |
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Everything in The Prince of Nothing is marmoreal.
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Spermy Smurf posted:Thats bullshit. I am angry at your accusation. *tugs braid* But wait! Look at those scythe-like blades!
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# ? Aug 19, 2016 02:46 |
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On my last Toll the Hounds reread I noticed a lot of plunging going on.
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Ynglaur posted:But wait! Look at those scythe-like blades! And their too human eyes.
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The Ninth Layer posted:On my last Toll the Hounds reread I noticed a lot of plunging going on. Yeah, that's just how Kruppe rolls.
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Number Ten Cocks posted:Everything in The Prince of Nothing is marmoreal. Nah, death comes swirling down. Which I assume is totally intentional by Bakker.
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Scapulae show up quite a bit in the latter half of the series. I remember one flying through the air at one point during a battle.
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The Ninth Layer posted:On my last Toll the Hounds reread I noticed a lot of plunging going on. you should check out the china.jpg thread in gbs
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