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MassivelyBuckNegro posted:idk about ships Yes -  If they weren't locked together a substantial number of the containers on the starboard side would have gone overboard. Also apparently the locks they use on cargo ships are substantially stronger than what was posted about the ones used on trains - the two green containers on the far right have to be supporting most of the weight of the top of the two adjacent rows.
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Geoj posted:the two green containers on the far right have to be supporting most of the weight of the top of the two adjacent rows. Nah, they're not touching, it's the orange and blue under the green ones that's holding the weight. The blue one looks a bit squished, actually. I'm amazed by the maroon one next to/now under the orange one, valiantly supporting everything because all around it are crushed. I'm more surprised that the stack on the other side is just hanging there. Speaking of boxes, here's a really good book on the history of containerized shipping. Comedy option: "Dammit, my Vive was in there!"
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Bad Angus! Bad!
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Klaus Kinski posted:"yet" as in will never happen on existing lines due to bridges and most of it being electric.
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Hey, guys, could you help me out? Is there some kind of person whose work is to make sure the trains leave and arrive on time, particularly in the context of urban transport? What's a job like that called?
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Tevery Best posted:Hey, guys, could you help me out? Is there some kind of person whose work is to make sure the trains leave and arrive on time, particularly in the context of urban transport? What's a job like that called? Fascist dictator?
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Tevery Best posted:Hey, guys, could you help me out? Is there some kind of person whose work is to make sure the trains leave and arrive on time, particularly in the context of urban transport? What's a job like that called? Rail controllers (which is who you're talking about if you hear someone say "the tower" in some places) usually takes care of that, among other things. OMGMYSPLEEN fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Aug 4, 2016 |
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Tevery Best posted:Hey, guys, could you help me out? Is there some kind of person whose work is to make sure the trains leave and arrive on time, particularly in the context of urban transport? What's a job like that called? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Train_dispatcher
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Tevery Best posted:What's a job like that called? a cushy ride to a pension you'll never collect because of the heart disease
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MassivelyBuckNegro posted:idk about ships but trucks and trains yes. The answer is "Yes" Huge loving fine if you get nailed for running around with a unlocked container that isn't safety wired or ziptied.
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Also note that doesn't stop retards from doing just that. I almost pulled a JB Hunt out of his cab when he tried to fuel next to me with a container that had shifted half way off his chassis. Both back pins where out and the can shifted a couple feet over. Guess he was too busy ordering nachos on the phone to see or feel that big of a shift.
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InterceptorV8 posted:The answer is "Yes" Huge loving fine if you get nailed for running around with a unlocked container that isn't safety wired or ziptied. the chassis has 'locks'. zipties are supplemental. if you safety wire the twistlocks on your chassis, i would probably ban you from the terminal. safety wire, coat hangers, etc are a major pain in the rear end to remove.
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That's neat. Seems like it would make for less maintenance over standard crossing diamonds, at least on the more traveled main.
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Strawberry posted:That's neat. Seems like it would make for less maintenance over standard crossing diamonds, at least on the more traveled main. Until an arm doesn't raise and the driver doesn't notice the thin sliver of metal on the track. Then there's a lot more maintanence.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Until an arm doesn't raise and the driver doesn't notice the thin sliver of metal on the track. Then there's a lot more maintanence. There is already a lot more maintenance when it comes to making sure the sensors work (or bad things happen as you said) and the lift motors work (also for the reason said). Versus a simple diamond track that shouldn't require much more maintenance than is required of any other part of the railway. Though in looking it the diamond name, I discovered that apparently the diamond crossovers makes a mess of flanges due to the sharp angle impacts during the transition.
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Diamonds can be a maintenance headache since the constant, unavoidable pounding settles the track, pumps mud, and fatigues the metal. When one main crosses another, you've got exceptionally tight maintenance windows. Anything you can do to reduce maintenance at diamonds is a net benefit. I feel like this is a better solution, just for the fact there are no moving parts; One-Way Low Speed (OWLS) diamond  Like the .gif above, lets mainline traffic coast through without hammering the rail and lets lighter traffic cross at a restricted speed. You can see the OWLS diamond lifts the wheel up 2 inches or so by the tread, then has the wheel flange bear the weight for a few inches over the rail of the main line. Due to zero gauge restraint for the few inches where the wheels cross over, speeds for traffic making the jump is limited to 10mph. Honestly, those rails in the .gif don't look like they'd provide much gauge restraint, either.
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MassivelyBuckNegro posted:the chassis has 'locks'. zipties are supplemental. You got $2000 bucks? It's $500 a corner.
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MassivelyBuckNegro posted:the chassis has 'locks'. zipties are supplemental. I dunno, they come off pretty fast with a pair of dikes.
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InterceptorV8 posted:You got $2000 bucks? It's $500 a corner. kastein posted:I dunno, they come off pretty fast with a pair of dikes. you can use whatever you want to secure the container, provided you cut it off at the ingate. forget to remove it? get banned. the beauty of working for the railroad, i guess.
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So now that UP has the 844 up and running, it is time to get started on the big boy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFD07mJQH6k Nothing much said other than what I just said though, but some more pictures all the same. Edit: And another youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-jzVjFpqjs Some nice sets there. Exterior has held up well considering how long they've probably been abandoned. Obviously the interior on the engines will be hilariously bad though. Is there a reason companies just park their trains in odd places and then strike them from their inventory instead of at a minimum, selling them off for scrap? Or did scrapping not really exist back then? JuffoWup fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Aug 13, 2016 |
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JuffoWup posted:Is there a reason companies just park their trains in odd places and then strike them from their inventory instead of at a minimum, selling them off for scrap? Or did scrapping not really exist back then? I'm pretty sure most do get scrapped - there are only two surviving Alleghenys, for example. I'd love to be wrong about that, though, because finding odd locations to explore looking for old trains sounds like a lot of fun.
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Log082 posted:I'm pretty sure most do get scrapped - there are only two surviving Alleghenys, for example. Locomotives, where any part at all is still useful gets sold. E: two years ago I burned an ancient rc4. The corpse still sold for a premium because they could retrofit the boggies and chassis could be fitted on/with new parts. Klaus Kinski fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Aug 19, 2016 |
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JuffoWup posted:So now that UP has the 844 up and running, it is time to get started on the big boy: Really depends on the situation. I'm sure a lot of the abandoned trains way out in the woods were owned by companies that went bankrupt and their asset tracking may or may not have been organized enough for those who (if anyone) sold their stuff at auction to ever actually track it down. For example there's an old Boston & Maine GM EMD SW-9 parked in the woods of Greenfield NH behind what used to be a train station (and is now some sort of daycare), slowly being destroyed by vandals, rotting into the ground, and taken over by hornets. It's been there for as long as I can remember - early 90s at least. And if the scrap prices surging a few years back didn't get it dragged out and scrapped then, they never will. http://newhampshirerail.tumblr.com/post/123763968525/springfield-terminal-emd-sw9-1423-ex-boston There are a couple locomotives rotting into the ground on an abandoned track deep in the woods of Maine, too. http://www.maine.gov/dacf/parks/discover_history_explore_nature/history/allagash/index.shtml
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kastein posted:Really depends on the situation. I'm sure a lot of the abandoned trains way out in the woods were owned by companies that went bankrupt and their asset tracking may or may not have been organized enough for those who (if anyone) sold their stuff at auction to ever actually track it down. For example there's an old Boston & Maine GM EMD SW-9 parked in the woods of Greenfield NH behind what used to be a train station (and is now some sort of daycare), slowly being destroyed by vandals, rotting into the ground, and taken over by hornets. It's been there for as long as I can remember - early 90s at least. And if the scrap prices surging a few years back didn't get it dragged out and scrapped then, they never will. http://newhampshirerail.tumblr.com/post/123763968525/springfield-terminal-emd-sw9-1423-ex-boston hell, there's a Budd RDC rotting into the ground in the MBTA yard in Charlestown.
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Kilonum posted:hell, there's a Budd RDC rotting into the ground in the MBTA yard in Charlestown. Victim of MBTA incompetence, or worthlessness? Who knows!
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I know UP has a bunch of old CNW cabooses rotting away in Butler Yard. Or they did a couple years ago. I need to railfan that spot again.
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kastein posted:Victim of MBTA incompetence, or worthlessness? Who knows! I know! (My friend works for the T) those were dragged in to be the break-room for the conductors and train drivers at North Station when it was under construction. They were going to be shoved into track 13 and made permanent because hey, it was just lying around. Then, the rehab place next to North Station (which is closed now I think?) said "actually no, you can't take up half of our parking lot with tracks 12 and 13, go to hell" so the T brought in a construction office to be the break room instead and left those two converted buddliners just there because they have a loooooooooot of unused track and it was just easier to leave it there.
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kastein posted:Really depends on the situation. I'm sure a lot of the abandoned trains way out in the woods were owned by companies that went bankrupt and their asset tracking may or may not have been organized enough for those who (if anyone) sold their stuff at auction to ever actually track it down. For example there's an old Boston & Maine GM EMD SW-9 parked in the woods of Greenfield NH behind what used to be a train station (and is now some sort of daycare), slowly being destroyed by vandals, rotting into the ground, and taken over by hornets. It's been there for as long as I can remember - early 90s at least. And if the scrap prices surging a few years back didn't get it dragged out and scrapped then, they never will. http://newhampshirerail.tumblr.com/post/123763968525/springfield-terminal-emd-sw9-1423-ex-boston Is there any good way to track these things down? I'm wondering what's hanging around Maryland, for example.
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Log082 posted:Is there any good way to track these things down? I'm wondering what's hanging around Maryland, for example. Your best bet is either to search for local railfan or urbex websites, or just do what I do and use google earth to follow local rail lines looking for interesting poo poo. You'd be surprised what you can find on google earth.
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kastein posted:There are a couple locomotives rotting into the ground on an abandoned track deep in the woods of Maine, too. http://www.maine.gov/dacf/parks/discover_history_explore_nature/history/allagash/index.shtml Man that is super cool. Nice that there are some guys out there who wanted to save them from falling over too, that's awesome.
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I found this video interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbEfzuCLoAQ
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Some video of the recent UP derailment in texas https://www.facebook.com/FlowerMound/videos/10153956263794397/
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McDeth posted:Some video of the recent UP derailment in texas Can't wait to hear what happened this time!
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Why would I maintain my tracks when I can just charge for it and keep the money?
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kastein posted:Really depends on the situation. I'm sure a lot of the abandoned trains way out in the woods were owned by companies that went bankrupt and their asset tracking may or may not have been organized enough for those who (if anyone) sold their stuff at auction to ever actually track it down. For example there's an old Boston & Maine GM EMD SW-9 parked in the woods of Greenfield NH behind what used to be a train station (and is now some sort of daycare), slowly being destroyed by vandals, rotting into the ground, and taken over by hornets. It's been there for as long as I can remember - early 90s at least. And if the scrap prices surging a few years back didn't get it dragged out and scrapped then, they never will. http://newhampshirerail.tumblr.com/post/123763968525/springfield-terminal-emd-sw9-1423-ex-boston I'm sure one of the UK contributors can clarify, but post-privatisation weren't perfectly serviceable locomotives left to rot by the leasing companies that took ownership of them, rather than potentially fall in to the hands of a competitor?
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TjyvTompa posted:I found this video interesting: Well we could always throw WWIII in the northern corridor so they can while rebuilding, code in more rail.
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Speaking of... Amtrak is buying new TGVs for the NEC for $2 billion. http://www.railwayage.com/index.php/passenger/high-performance/alstom-lands-amtrak-next-gen-nec-trainset-contract.html quote:Amtrak, as expected, has contracted with Alstom to supply 28 “next-generation high-speed” trainsets that will replace popular yet aging and technically problematic Acela Express equipment. 
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Zero One posted:Speaking of... Amtrak is buying new TGVs for the NEC for $2 billion. Is it wrong that I recognize the setting of the penultimate render as Boston's South Station? And speaking of, MBTA and Amtrak are fighting over track maintenance costs again... http://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2016/08/26/could-boston-be-out-of-amtraks-northeast-corridor
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