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drilldo squirt posted:Did we stop calling them nazis for some reason? Actual Neo-Nazis tend to learn German and refuse to consume meat or alcohol like Hitler himself. Alt-righters tend to have a beer gut, high body fat from a high-pork diet and are barely able to speak English.
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Tesseraction posted:Turns out you can be critical of Israel without being racist against Jewish people... I know, I know, it directly contracts your redtitle's: A bunch of pages back the fact that some pollster tweeted from Israel led you to engage in some of the "I'm just askin' questions here  " dog-whistling and when you got called on it you dug in deeper and bizarrely assumed that a twitter account that tweeted from Israel must be an arm of the Israeli security services. You finished up by magnanimously explaining that you didn't agree with Holocaust deniers while also insisting that Holocaust "fetishists" were about as bad.You're like stockholm syndrome or Ligur, but with Jews. Right down to the Trumpesque whining about how you're just pointing out facts and how dare the PC police accuse you of racism.
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Alt right is made up of people the nazis would murder but they hate blacks and jews and the welfare state and women. Also they don't really give a gently caress about their country and are all about personal freedom. I think actual WW II nazis would really loving hate alt righters for being decadent fat smell untermesnch scum. Can you imagine trying to mobilise an army of either fat neckbearded youtube personalities or skinny pony-tailed tech trolls? The two archtypes of alt right.
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The Insect Court posted:Holocaust "fetishists" were about as bad. No kink shami... wait, never mind.
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Zudgemud posted:No kink shami... wait, never mind. 
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Spain's Mariano Rajoy has hit a novel tactic to force the Spanish PSOE to acquiesce to a new government of the right: quote:Will the Socialists dare to steal Christmas? That’s the question that Spaniards are asking after caretaker Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy agreed to face a confidence vote in parliament at the end of this month. The result of that ballot will hinge on whether Socialist leader Pedro Sanchez Castejon sticks to his pledge to oppose Rajoy. If he does, Spain’s electoral calendar means the country’s third election in a year would probably fall on Dec. 25. “Let’s see if @sanchezcastejon has the guts to send 36 million Spaniards out to repeat elections on Christmas Day,” Xavier Garcia Albiol, leader of Rajoy’s People’s Party in Catalonia, said in a tweet Thursday after the confidence vote was called. Rajoy is trying to win a mandate from lawmakers after sealing a pact with the liberals of Ciudadanos to support his bid to end eight months of political deadlock. He’s still short of votes though, and needs at least some Socialist lawmakers to abstain if he’s going to finally claim a second term after inconclusive elections in December and June. A bonus feature is that a Christmas Day election would also have the effect of shutting up the King, whose traditional Christmas Eve message is his sole opportunity to speak independently. However, Spanish law bans all political messagess the day before the election so that voters can have a 'day of reflection'.
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So alt-righters would be the "asoziale" wearing the black triangles.
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Pluskut Tukker posted:Spain's Mariano Rajo has hit a novel tactic to force the Spanish PSOE to acquiesce to a new government of the right:
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Possibly. More realistically, the fact of it being Christmas will drive down turnout, and low turnout favours the PP.
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Sarkozy has a plan! https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/19/le-comeback-kid-sarkozy-shapes-up-for-presidential-run-on-hardline-platform quote:Sarkozy believes that the current climate of fear and anxiety in France, after the deaths of more than 230 people in terrorist attacks claimed by Islamists in the past 19 months, means the nation needs a man of authority like him. It isn't a very good plan.
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Aug 20, 2016 13:15
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ugh sarkozy go away you hideous gnome
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Sarkozy is largely responsible for making France an easy target for terrorists, as he has cut budget for (among a lot of other things) intelligence services and dismantled the "proximity police" (equivalent to community policing). Sarkozy's idea of what the security forces of a country must be is 0% prevention, 100% repression. He's a loving rear end in a top hat and I want him to die from a cocaine overdose already.
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I loving hate it when school meals are used that way, more so than the other things. What kind of scumbag can rationalise taking options off a school's lunch menu?
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LemonDrizzle posted:Sarkozy has a plan! I'm sure banning non-pork options in school meals will show those dastardly ISIS whose boss
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jesus, french politics are so awful right now it boggles the mind
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V. Illych L. posted:jesus, french politics are so awful right now it boggles the mind Except that then you remember that this is TYOOL 2016 and that the US and UK are somehow even worse. And then you remember that your country is poo poo too. 
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Sympathy for the devil, literally nobody with a brain even marginally intelligent would have absolutely no reason to vote Sarkozy. He is going to be assraped in the polls.
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LemonDrizzle posted:Sarkozy has a plan! I like pork, but I don't think I'd enjoy it in every meal, every day.
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i mean hopefully one could make some hay of this being not only islamophobic but also antisemittic but i'm not holding out a lot of hope here tbh
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PiCroft posted:I'm sure banning non-pork options in school meals will show those dastardly ISIS whose boss It's Sarkozy, so you can know his real motive is to then say "since you no longer have to cater for alternate menus, we can cut your budget by another 30%, right?"
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steinrokkan posted:I like pork, but I don't think I'd enjoy it in every meal, every day. I don't think we should make kids being able to to eat dependent on a daily roulette.
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I thought laicite was all about loving everyone in equal measure? Put horsemeat in there is what I'm sayin.
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While I can see why people have moral qualms about these proposed policies, have you considered what it might mean for struggling Danish pig farmers? People like to pretend everything is black and white, when there are actually pretty good arguments on both sides.
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Friendly Humour posted:Sympathy for the devil, literally nobody with a brain even marginally intelligent would have absolutely no reason to vote Sarkozy. He is going to be assraped in the polls. Sarkozy is literally trying to be FN light. There is absolutely no way this might backfire.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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A Buttery Pastry posted:While I can see why people have moral qualms about these proposed policies, have you considered what it might mean for struggling Danish pig farmers? People like to pretend everything is black and white, when there are actually pretty good arguments on both sides. lol, it's all designed to bolster the French wine industry by allowing them to sell their leftover / rotten grapes as fodder to emerging French swine farms. if anything they will push Danes out of the market.
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steinrokkan posted:lol, it's all designed to bolster the French wine industry by allowing them to sell their leftover / rotten grapes as fodder to emerging French swine farms. if anything they will push Danes out of the market.
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Friendly Humour posted:Sympathy for the devil, literally nobody with a brain even marginally intelligent would have absolutely no reason to vote Sarkozy. He is going to be assraped in the polls. History has shown, repeatedly, that voters (in France or elsewhere) are generally stupid. You've got the partisans who'd vote even for a dead rat if it was their party's candidate, and then you've got the antipartisans who'd vote even for a dead rat if it was the strategic choice to avoid the election of the candidate they hate. In the specific case of France, you've got to understand that there isn't any popular left-wing candidate -- there's no Bernie Sanders or Jeremy Corbyn, what they have are more like Walter Mondale and Tony Blair. I cannot imagine a PS victory in 2017, not after the way the Hollande-Valls-Macron team pulled the so-called "El Khomri" law into being. People who have left wing sensibilities will not vote for them anymore; and none of the other left-wing parties have any chance of winning the elections either, because they're incapable of bunching together so they just fragment the voter base. So who will get vote? The right-wing assholes like Sarkozy, and the far-right-wing assholes. There's a real risk that Sarkozy could crawl back into power, carried not by the people's love for him, but by their hate for Hollande -- pretty much in the same way that Hollande himself was elected not for his charisma that lies somewhere between that of a sea cucumber and that of a cottage cheese forgotten for too long in the back of the fridge, but because people were really loving fed up with Sarkozy. Now given how everyone hates both the PS and the so-called Republicans, there is a strong possibility that Marine Le Pen would get to be France's first female president...
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Cat Mattress posted:Now given how everyone hates both the PS and the so-called Republicans, there is a strong possibility that Marine Le Pen would get to be France's first female president...
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Cat Mattress posted:Marine Le Pen would get to be France's first female president...   
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With Le Pen, Jr as President of France, Britain eternally facing imminent Brexit (any day now!) and Poland still being permanently PiSed, what functional democratic countries will be left in the EU?
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blowfish posted:With Le Pen, Jr as President of France, Britain eternally facing imminent Brexit (any day now!) and Poland still being permanently PiSed, what functional democratic countries will be left in the EU? Don't forget Hungary, Greece, Italy in the list of dysfunctional states. Fortunately there's the growing and jolly Czech republic + Slovakia to show everybody the way. 
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blowfish posted:With Le Pen, Jr as President of France, Britain eternally facing imminent Brexit (any day now!) and Poland still being permanently PiSed, what functional democratic countries will be left in the EU? Well the Vatican is kind of a democracy, if you squint right...
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Does fascist governments count if they're democratically elected?
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steinrokkan posted:Don't forget Hungary, Greece, Italy in the list of dysfunctional states. Isn't "Czechia" the preferred name now?
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Fox Cunning posted:Does fascist governments count if they're democratically elected? Initially no, but we've seen that appeals to nationalism can allow for democratically-elected fascism, yes.
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LemonDrizzle posted:Isn't "Czechia" the preferred name now? Not on my watch
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Stockholm Syndrome posted:Oh yeah, after multiple terrorist attacks we're so loving racist meanwhile America started a loving war (still hasn't ended) because they got attacked once. Yeah... Who's the savage again? Because without America bombing the poo poo out of the middle east and causing disruption none of this would have happened. But yeah, europeans are loving racist. gently caress you. So hard.  Are you under the impression that there was no immigration from Muslim countries into Europe before 2003? Because there's this magical country called "Algeria," and I hate to tell you, but Europeans did some pretty unpleasant, destabilizing poo poo there...e: Oh wow, I missed this gem: Stockholm Syndrome posted:Tell me how am I racist when I point out that the muslim population will grow 4x faster than the indigenous population? How is that racist? I'm just projecting into the future what will most likely happen. If Europe reaches muslim majority, it won't end well. For anybody. You're an idiot for using the racist card instantly. I'm not a racist, just don't want my country to turn into a middle eastern hell hole. But apparently in 2016, that makes you a racist. gently caress you. Just try to understand the numbers for a moment. I love how European racists think that they're on the verge of turning into Libya all of a sudden, if they dare allow just one more handful of evil Muslims in. Majorian fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Aug 21, 2016 |
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From all the racist poo poo this thread has had to endure the last few pages, it's Sarkozy that's the most frightening. Are there any French politicians that are telling him that kind of poo poo is racist and he can't actually do that?
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LochNessMonster posted:From all the racist poo poo this thread has had to endure the last few pages, it's Sarkozy that's the most frightening. Are there any French politicians that are telling him that kind of poo poo is racist and he can't actually do that?
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