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Reinanigans posted:Lotad line, Ralts line, Taillow line, Aron line, Shroomish line, Slakoth line (no, really), Elektrike line, Trapinch line, any of the starters...Apart from those last two, all of them are available before the second gym. ORAS probably has the best assortment of early Pokémon of any game in the series. It's one of the only things I'll rank it over other entries. What? ORAS has some of the shittiest early selection of any game in the series, especially when we just came off X/Y which is literally objectively the best. Especially since they locked some stuff you used to be able to get early in R/S/E until later! The only games that are worse are B/W1 and its a close thing.  Like, you have access to more than sixty lines of pokemon before the second gym in X/Y. Including things like Tyrunt, Absol, Drifloon, Axew, Croagunk, Scraggy, Kanto Starters, Venipede, Aegislash, Meowstic etc... Zore fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Aug 21, 2016 |
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Calaveron posted:I can't wait until I can start trading online so one of you dear friends can send me a larvitar He's my best friend
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Aug 21, 2016 02:06
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In X and Y, once you get into the back half of the game, wild encounters of new evolutionary lines tend to be already evolved.
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Zore posted:What? ORAS has some of the shittiest early selection of any game in the series, especially when we just came off X/Y which is literally objectively the best. Especially since they locked some stuff you used to be able to get early in R/S/E until later! Maybe I just meant RSE instead, I dunno. I didn't notice a difference between RSE and ORAS. And I guess I still don't remember much of XY and was comparing RSE with Gens 1-5. I still think the early selection in RSE is the best until XY. I also think I like generations that are mostly self contained, meaning they mostly have brand new Pokémon making up the catchable Pokémon. It's one of the reasons BW1 is my favorite game in the series. EVERY Pokémon was brand new, there were no old guys from previous generations. That hadn't happened since RBY. XY was basically the opposite.
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Aug 21, 2016 02:38
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Whoa so I can trade now so if anyone has a larvitar how can we make this happen
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Aug 21, 2016 02:43
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Reinanigans posted:Maybe I just meant RSE instead, I dunno. I didn't notice a difference between RSE and ORAS. I mean, that's fine, but the worst part of both B/W and ORAS is their garbage early selection of mons. ORAS at least opens up later, but B/W pace themselves so much in encounters and absurdly high evo levels that far too many pokemon are gym 7+ exclusive (hope you never really wanted to use Briavary, Vulbaby, Durant, Heatmor, Hydreigon, Volcarona, Buffolount, Bisharp, etc.) Kills any desire in me to replay because there's no variety at all until the game's already over. And ORAS removed Sableye/Mawile/Nosepass/Aron by blocking off the lower areas of Granite cave when you could immediately go down in the originals. Its real dumb! Zore fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Aug 21, 2016 |
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Aug 21, 2016 02:45
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An adamant protean froakie with substitute, bounce, double team and hydro pump whoa
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Calaveron posted:Whoa so I can trade now so if anyone has a larvitar how can we make this happen i have a few dragon dance/pursuit in friend balls i bred up, of which you can have
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Zore posted:And ORAS removed Sableye/Mawile/Nosepass/Aron by blocking off the lower areas of Granite cave when you could immediately go down in the originals. Its real dumb! now i'm glad i never bought oras
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Brother Entropy posted:now i'm glad i never bought oras ORAS is good
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Aug 21, 2016 02:49
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ORAS is good because it's pokemon and bad because it's RSE
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Aug 21, 2016 02:51
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GreyPowerVan posted:ORAS is good Its okay. At best. Dexnav is amazing, soaring is fun and so is the postgame story. Its too bad they were stapled on to a really mediocre/bad skeleton. I like every part of ORAS except the region and pokemon selection basically. But those two part are real bad
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Aug 21, 2016 02:51
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oras has the iv checker, a daycare, and a hold one direction egg hatching loop right on top of each other so that's cool also the dexnav for finding hidden abilities
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Aug 21, 2016 02:53
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ORAS would have been way better if they had remade Emerald instead of Ruby and Sapphire.
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Aug 21, 2016 02:54
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oras added a lot of side stuff that's cool but hoenn is still the weakest region and I will always hate that rock you have to break every time you want to go north from the town with the lightning gym delta episode was v dumb and good tho and I can only hope that gen 7 goes as far in that direction as possible
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oddium posted:oras has the iv checker, a daycare, and a hold one direction egg hatching loop right on top of each other so that's cool I still like friend safari more for hidden abilities. Wish they would bring that back in sun/moon
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oddium posted:i have a few dragon dance/pursuit in friend balls i bred up, of which you can have Remind me what we need to do to trade on the internet My friend code is 1547-5239-8991 Calaveron fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Aug 21, 2016 |
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Aug 21, 2016 02:57
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Calaveron posted:Remind me what we need to do to trade on the internet you go to the friend menu of the 3ds and add this code: 5215 0019 4882 and then you give me your code and we should show up on the pss screen i think and i trade you a larvitar. the only things i want are dream ball females or fancy pattern vivillon but i doubt you have either so whatever you think is cool
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Manatee Cannon posted:oras added a lot of side stuff that's cool but hoenn is still the weakest region and I will always hate that rock you have to break every time you want to go north from the town with the lightning gym Oh my god that rock is the loving worst. Especially since I hate carting around HM slaves (I usually just teach main party members Surf/Strength and you can usually get by without the rest) but ORAS has so many 'gently caress you, HM time' moments. Or 'gently caress you, go back to Mauville and switch bikes'.
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Aug 21, 2016 03:01
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Has there been any incarnation of Seaking that wasn't terrible?
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oddium posted:you go to the friend menu of the 3ds and add this code: 5215 0019 4882 Sorry because all I have at the moment is fodder
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Hadaka Apron posted:Has there been any incarnation of Seaking that wasn't terrible? Seaking is good and cool. Also gen 1 gimmick sets were great. Seaking and Destroy was pretty devastating (and also I invented it. I'm not being facetious I legitimately coined the name and set) I think it was Blizzard, Horn Drill, Agility, Hydro Pump. Agility jacks up your speed (and thus crit rate and Horn Drill accuracy), which means Blizzard and Hydro Pump ALSO miss less. This ONLY works in gen 1, of course!
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Whoops were you offering me that lion guy too? Sorry I backed out
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yeah it's a moon ball shinx with ice fang if you'd like, better than just wonder trading them like i usually do
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Calaveron posted:Remind me what we need to do to trade on the internet I've got OR so if you haven't got them already I can trade the exclusives over. fc: 2595-4717-9681 e: I am only at e4 in game though
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Manatee Cannon posted:oras added a lot of side stuff that's cool but hoenn is still the weakest region and I will always hate that rock you have to break every time you want to go north from the town with the lightning gym Pretty much, by the time I got to Kyogre I had a full team that could take out anything... and I didn't even like most of them. And by full team that could take out anything I mean Mega Manectric had to kill all of Team Aqua by itself and Mega Metagross kept being there whenever i felt like turning a battle into a nothing sequence of tapping a button. A remixed selection of pokemon would've gone a long way, if they do Crazy Diamond and Pearl Jam then they absolutely have to push more Pokemon variety into Sinnoh, and probably lower how many HMs you need. Also I didn't really like Delta Episode, it opens with your dad being a massive dickwad by visiting the family and then just binge his tv shows while mom's doing chores. Once he finally pays attention to her it's to tell her that he's not gonna do the meteor shower date, wtf. Then they start pushing me to go with the neighbor??? the family is falling apart! let me go with mom to strengthen the bonds with the family! And eventually you go to a battle, read where they want you to battle next, rinse and repeat while this random girl decides to be vague and prolong the story when she could just tell us what's what so we can do it. Eventually I have a decent fight before immediately getting Mega Rayquaza and OHKOing Deoxys, incapable of losing anything with the win button that's been forced unto me, nothing but see the family crumble as they essentially admit they're only together to take care of their child.
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Nessa posted:ORAS would have been way better if they had remade Emerald instead of Ruby and Sapphire. emerald was cool. im still disappointed oras didnt have it's both-teams extended plotline or battle frontier
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My favorites I wish stufful was fairy/fighting
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I'm sure somebody somewhere has already compared each game by number of new species available between each gym, but if I had to guess it's technically gotten better with each generation of new games. Just, for whatever reason, the remakes are always super stubborn about not changing things from the original so they feel even worse next to the new thing you just played. Maybe they'll stop that trend this generation, but I super doubt it. Crazy Diamond won't even use Star Platinum's pokedex. Similarly, the trials in gen 7 will probably be super cool and have rules like "you can only use 2-3 pokemon just like the captain does" so suddenly gen 4's 2-3 pokemon leaders will feel even more terrible in comparison there too.
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Been enjoying the Mew glitch on Yellow, I have caught a ton of Pokemon you can't get on yellow tonight. There's a trainer just to the east of Cinnabar I can use, then I fly to Fuschia, switch boxes, reset, push the Boulder, make sure I have one empty slot in my party, then just go to wherever has wild Pokemon with special values close to what I want. Save, catch, and check its special. If it isn't something I need or want, just reset, all o have to redo is the catching part. It's great.
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Reimou posted:My favorites Oh man, Whimsicott is my favorite pokemon I always forget exists.
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Decus posted:I'm sure somebody somewhere has already compared each game by number of new species available between each gym, but if I had to guess it's technically gotten better with each generation of new games. Just, for whatever reason, the remakes are always super stubborn about not changing things from the original so they feel even worse next to the new thing you just played. Maybe they'll stop that trend this generation, but I super doubt it. Crazy Diamond won't even use Star Platinum's pokedex. HGSS actually pulled a lot of stuff from crystal which makes ORAS slavish devotion to the original story that much more disappointing
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mandatory lesbian posted:HGSS actually pulled a lot of stuff from crystal which makes ORAS slavish devotion to the original story that much more disappointing You're right, but not the pokedex sadly. And maybe not the gym trainers? I can't remember on that front. edit: Right, HGSS did touch the gym leaders/trainers but mostly their levels and not from crystal. Decus fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Aug 21, 2016 |
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I can't wait for Alolan Primal Raichu
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Classtoise posted:Agility jacks up your speed (and thus crit rate and Horn Drill accuracy), which means Blizzard and Hydro Pump ALSO miss less. Noooo, that's not how that works. Crits work on your base speed. Raising speed in battle doesn't increase that, or your accuracy. Blizzard had 90% accuracy so it was pretty good and Hydro Pump has 85%. Horn Drill misses every time if you're a lower level than the target anyway, and 30% otherwise. To make it so things never miss, use one X Accuracy to skip the accuracy check. This applies to all moves.
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Decus posted:You're right, but not the pokedex sadly. And maybe not the gym trainers? I can't remember on that front. Between the Pokewalker, pokelympics giving easy stone access and the added safari zone it did mix up the pokedex quite a bit actually. Like Murkrow and Houndor were available in Johto! Zore fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Aug 21, 2016 |
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Zore posted:Between the Pokewalker, pokelympics giving easy stone access and the added safari zone it did mix up the pokedex quite a bit actually. HGSS's Safari Zone was neat because it granted you access to so many Pokémon... The one issue I had with it is the fact that it takes an eternity to get the access to everything. You need to arrange a space with a certain layout and wait 200 days for Gible to appear.
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Crosspeice posted:Noooo, that's not how that works. Crits work on your base speed. Raising speed in battle doesn't increase that, or your accuracy. Blizzard had 90% accuracy so it was pretty good and Hydro Pump has 85%. Horn Drill misses every time if you're a lower level than the target anyway, and 30% otherwise. But Horn Drill works off Speed straight up? I know the accuracy was just really high for those two moves which was the BIG reason to use them. Either way it was literally the only viable Seaking set when Seaking actually had a shot of being anything remotely usable 
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HGSS is by far the best remake and it still doesn't quite improve from the originals as much as it should. They should just B2W2 everything going forward: rather than Crazy Diamond and Pearl Jam with elements from Star Platinum, it should be Diamond 2 and Pearl 2, taking place several years later, a new town opened up, Rowan looks ancient as is even more sassy, everything is warmer because global warming and thus there's a swarm of fire types in every route, what remains of Team Galactic now runs a social media site and is trying to destroy the world through it or whatever.
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ORAS was disappointing to me because the Battle Resort was just copy-pasted from X/Y for the most part. The Battle Frontier was probably the 3rd gens coolest feature and they just didn't include it. The Delta Episode was also insanely mediocre so that didn't make up for the lack of it at all.
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