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GameCube: Nov 21, 2006

I left out the important fact that I am using a garbage open source framework called xamarin

# ? Aug 19, 2016 23:44

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# ? May 10, 2024 04:34

The Leck: Feb 27, 2001

abraham linksys posted:

hell eloquent javascript is $8 right now in https://www.humblebundle.com/books/joy-of-coding-book-bundle just grab that, that's a pretty beloved book

i will check this out, because i keep doing more and more javascript and could probably do it better. thanks for the suggestion!

# ? Aug 20, 2016 00:24

Illusive Fuck Man: Jul 5, 2004; RIP John McCain feel better xoxo ð ð; Taco Defender

if you disagree with the design of something and think it's a mistake that will make the product worse or more difficult to maintain, but you're more junior on the team, when is the right time to give up the fight and try to stop caring?

i know the right answer is "yesterday and never care about anything but the paycheck", but I hate making my job harder / code uglier for dumb reasons and the more often this happens, the less faith I have that this product won't be a dumpster fire that customers hate

# ? Aug 20, 2016 00:33

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

when its extremely clear that nobody gives a poo poo about your opinion. it sucks and i recommend jobhunting

# ? Aug 20, 2016 00:35

GameCube: Nov 21, 2006

that's exactly why I left my first real-rear end job. now I still deal with corporate-rear end bullshit BUT the people I work with value my opinion and that's the only reason I'm still here

# ? Aug 20, 2016 01:28

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

every operating system needs system calls and it just so happens that the 68k makes implementing them easy! the processor supports 16 exception vectors that can be called with the TRAP instruction. (the simulator hooks trap #15 for I/O tasks.) when running a trap, the processor is put in supervisor mode and jumps to the corresponding vector. this means we can call the OS without needing to know anything about its location or state other than the arguments we need to pass.

so we just have to set up the vectors when we boot:

code:

    lea     Trap2Handler, a0
    move.l  #$88, a1
    move.l  a0, (a1)

and then we can execute trap #2, which will jump to Trap2Handler. Trap2Handler expects an argument passed through the d7 register which is used to select a task from the table. it then calls it as a subroutine.

code:

Trap2Table:
Trap2Task0  dc.l    Trap2TestMessage
Trap2Task1  dc.l    ReadBootSector
Trap2Task2  dc.l    CountObjectsInRootDirectory
Trap2Task3  dc.l    PrintDirectoryEntry
Trap2Task4  dc.l    CalculateDiskCapacity
Trap2Task5  dc.l    EnumerateRootDirectory
Trap2Task6  dc.l    ReadFATEntry
Trap2Task7  dc.l    GetStartingCluster

when the task returns, we clean up anything we need to and return from the trap handler. ez

# ? Aug 20, 2016 01:40

Space Whale: Nov 6, 2014

The architect is actually impressed with my ability to climb through a tomb of code full of pitfalls and then decipher the hieroglyphics in there.

A... am I actually not complete poo poo?

# ? Aug 20, 2016 04:08

necrotic: Aug 2, 2005; I owe my brother big time for this!

maybe slightly less poo poo

# ? Aug 20, 2016 04:42

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Space Whale posted:

The architect is actually impressed with my ability to climb through a tomb of code full of pitfalls and then decipher the hieroglyphics in there.

A... am I actually not complete poo poo?

prove it by not leaving a tomb for the next guy

# ? Aug 20, 2016 04:43

Phobeste: Apr 9, 2006; never, like, count out Touchdown Tom, man

the annoying thing about python syntactic whitespace imo is that they didn't go far enough. for instance, there is no language level specified "right amount" of whitespace, which in any other language of course there wouldn't be, but if it's semantically significant maybe you should specify that....

also whitespace only has to be consistent within a block, so you can do this:

Python code:

def piss():
   def fart():
           print("look how dumb i am")
   fart()

also we have a large python project. it's kinda nice because the alternative would be a large c++ project which we also have and it's also lovely but with the added bonus of "change something in a commonly used header? see you tomorrow", and this way it's easier to tweak little things.

also python3 generators are really nice to work with!

# ? Aug 20, 2016 14:45

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

Phobeste posted:

generators are really nice to work with!

this is truth, if i had one wish and it had to involve adding a feature to java then that's what i'd wish for

# ? Aug 20, 2016 15:01

brap: Aug 23, 2004; Grimey Drawer

lol xamarin
https://bugzilla.xamarin.com/show_bug.cgi?id=43448

# ? Aug 20, 2016 17:10

ComradeCosmobot: Dec 4, 2004; USPOL July

Soricidus posted:

this is truth, if i had one wish and it had to involve adding a feature to java then that's what i'd wish for

good choice

some people would absolutely hate it but it's class extensions/categories for me

death to stringutils

# ? Aug 20, 2016 17:45

hackbunny: Jul 22, 2007; I haven't been on SA for years but the person who gave me my previous av as a joke felt guilty for doing so and decided to get me a non-shitty av

spotted a guy today wearing a panama over a sun hat, I can't even figure out whether I hate him

# ? Aug 20, 2016 22:29

Lutha Mahtin: Oct 10, 2010; Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

hackbunny posted:

spotted a guy today wearing a panama over a sun hat, I can't even figure out whether I hate him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8K1fTZaR7w

# ? Aug 20, 2016 22:34

Powerful Two-Hander: Mar 10, 2004; Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.

new developer interpreted "remove these two column references from these procedures because we are dropping them from the base table as they do nothing" as "remove any reference to any columns with that name from every procedure even where you don't know what it does and its unrelated to the issue description". i don't know why i bother delegating.

# ? Aug 20, 2016 23:48

Kathleen: Feb 26, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Phobeste posted:

also we have a large python project.

i'm so sorry

# ? Aug 21, 2016 04:19

jesus WEP: Oct 17, 2004

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

new developer interpreted "remove these two column references from these procedures because we are dropping them from the base table as they do nothing" as "remove any reference to any columns with that name from every procedure even where you don't know what it does and its unrelated to the issue description". i don't know why i bother delegating.

he was trying to Show Initiative and you need to put that habit out of him pronto

# ? Aug 21, 2016 05:05

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

i don't know why i bother delegating.

same, you're really bad at it

# ? Aug 21, 2016 05:26

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

i just hope you're not in a c# shop

hobbesmaster fucked around with this message at 08:07 on Aug 21, 2016

# ? Aug 21, 2016 05:29

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

if only it were 1986 and I could make lots of money off my autism for 68000s and 6502s

# ? Aug 21, 2016 07:18

echinopsis: Apr 13, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

Bloody posted:

jobhunting

I have an interview on friday. I am so desperate. when the market is poo poo like this it sucks coz it means SO many people are going for such ordinary jobs. gently caress

# ? Aug 21, 2016 11:13

oh no blimp issue: Feb 23, 2011

is it a programmer job?

# ? Aug 21, 2016 11:15

echinopsis: Apr 13, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

# ? Aug 21, 2016 11:29

echinopsis: Apr 13, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

though a python job would be cool

# ? Aug 21, 2016 11:30

Sweevo: Nov 8, 2007; i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Luigi Thirty posted:

if only it were 1986 and I could make lots of money off my autism for 68000s and 6502s

you never know. about 3 years ago we had to hire a contractor who knew z8000 assembly.

# ? Aug 21, 2016 11:33

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

jobhunting sucks rear end even in a high-demand field . nobody has adequately disrupted jobhunting yet

# ? Aug 21, 2016 17:29

anthonypants: May 6, 2007; by Nyc_Tattoo; Dinosaur Gum

Bloody posted:

jobhunting sucks rear end even in a high-demand field . nobody has adequately disrupted jobhunting yet

sure they have they make you an independent contractor like uber

# ? Aug 21, 2016 18:47

gonadic io: Feb 16, 2011; >>=

Bloody posted:

jobhunting sucks rear end even in a high-demand field . nobody has adequately disrupted jobhunting yet

i just picked a few recruitment agencies and sent them my cv and they did all the work for me

too bad (by which I mean good) lots of companies refuse to deal with external recruiters. fuckem

# ? Aug 21, 2016 18:55

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

considering the inappropriate job spam every computer toucher gets on linked in I can only imagine what some recruiters do to larger companies that have had to ban them

# ? Aug 21, 2016 19:19

Deep Dish Fuckfest: Sep 6, 2006; Advanced
Computer Touching; Toilet Rascal

somehow i've never actually gotten any lovely recruiter spam on linkedin. i'd assume that's because i'm so terrible even those guys don't want me

# ? Aug 21, 2016 19:23

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

Bloody posted:

jobhunting sucks rear end even in a high-demand field . nobody has adequately disrupted jobhunting yet

i think a technical interviewer interrupting you constantly to confuse you counts as disruption,

# ? Aug 21, 2016 19:23

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

YeOldeButchere posted:

somehow i've never actually gotten any lovely recruiter spam on linkedin. i'd assume that's because i'm so terrible even those guys don't want me

it's based 100% on job title

recruiters don't even read your resume

# ? Aug 21, 2016 19:24

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

YeOldeButchere posted:

somehow i've never actually gotten any lovely recruiter spam on linkedin. i'd assume that's because i'm so terrible even those guys don't want me

you need some keywords in your job description and skills section

# ? Aug 21, 2016 19:25

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

it's based 100% on job title

recruiters don't even read your resume

agree on 2 but for 1 on linked in I'm almost 100% certain their queries include your skills. ie my title is software engineer but I don't get front end spam

# ? Aug 21, 2016 19:26

echinopsis: Apr 13, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

there is just so few jobs. maybe one pops up every week or two?

# ? Aug 21, 2016 20:32

HoboMan: Nov 4, 2010

maybe where you live is poo poo because i had at least one a day
(with an attitude that it's their problem to figure out if i'm actually qualified to do the work)

# ? Aug 21, 2016 20:51

kitten emergency: Jan 13, 2008; get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

recruiters: they're bad

# ? Aug 21, 2016 21:02

the talent deficit: Dec 20, 2003; self-deprecation is a very british trait, and problems can arise when the british attempt to do so with a foreign culture

my job title on linkedin is 'marlon brando' and i get tons of recruiter spam

# ? Aug 21, 2016 21:09

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EVGA Longoria: Dec 25, 2005; Let's go exploring!

my company has an alternate title for software architect called

chief engineer

i want to get this title

it's gonna be my title

# ? Aug 21, 2016 21:32

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