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Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Has anyone tried Oscer Sierra Charlie? The price for the rules makes me curious, but I just noticed that they come with mans so I am even more inclined to buy it.

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lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

ExtraNoise posted:

So a friend and I are thinking about making the leap into Bolt Action. However, I just found out today that BA2 is coming out soon. If we got a BA starter set, would we be throwing our money away or will it be compatible with BA2?

I received one of the pre-order coupon for BA 2 starter sets from Warlord (basically you get an extra infantry box for free, if I understand it correctly). I'm not planning to use it, so I could send it to you if you are interested.

lilljonas fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Aug 19, 2016

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

Arquinsiel posted:

Has anyone tried Oscer Sierra Charlie? The price for the rules makes me curious, but I just noticed that they come with mans so I am even more inclined to buy it.

Mechwarrior isn't historical.

Yet

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

lilljonas posted:

I received one of the pre-order coupon for BA 2 starter sets from Warlord (basically you get an extra infantry box for free, if I understand it correctly). I'm not planning to use it, so I could send it to you if you are interested.

That would be amazing. Please!

You are awesome.

Edit: email is extranoise@gmail.com

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

ExtraNoise posted:

That would be amazing. Please!

You are awesome.

Edit: email is extranoise@gmail.com

Ok, I sent it. :)

Commissar Kip
Nov 9, 2009

Imperial Commissariat's uplifting primer.

Shake once.

Arquinsiel posted:

Has anyone tried Oscer Sierra Charlie? The price for the rules makes me curious, but I just noticed that they come with mans so I am even more inclined to buy it.
Eerm, did you use the wrong link? That one leads to the Sarna Wiki.

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!
Probably it was this:

http://www.evilbearwargames.com/product/osc_oscar-sierra-chralie-part_1_skirmish/

Never heard of it though, but then I'm not a great fan of modern settings for my tabletop gaming.

E: Just found this source of sabot bases and markers, and found enough stuff to bling out both our CoC games and upcoming Sharp Practice adventures. Looking forward to get the stuff and try them out:

http://www.supremelittleness.co.uk/sld-bases/penny-sabot-bases.htm

There's even French Foreign Legion markers for the scouting phase, this'll be great. :)

lilljonas fucked around with this message at 09:43 on Aug 19, 2016

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Acebuckeye13 posted:

Apparently the 761st Tank Battalion is gonna be in the new Bulge books (As Fearless Vets!) so that's something to look forward to.

Also Battlefront is now selling individual plastic sprues, which is kinda cool I guess?

What's the source on the 761st?

And yeah, individual plastics should let me get my finns some AT for about £15-20, which is pretty nice.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


spectralent posted:

What's the source on the 761st?

And yeah, individual plastics should let me get my finns some AT for about £15-20, which is pretty nice.

A couple of sites have gotten a look at preview copies. I think WWPD posted scans of the contents pages of both books.


I'm probably going to into BA, but I can't decide whether to go Brits or US for my free infantry. After the wide selection of units in FoW, though, getting used to the more generic options in BA is a bit of a downer. Going from being able to select specific units to 'guys who were roughly in region X in year Y' takes some getting used to. My dreams of a Devil's Brigade force are no more.
:911::respek::canada:

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

Yvonmukluk posted:

A couple of sites have gotten a look at preview copies. I think WWPD posted scans of the contents pages of both books.


I'm probably going to into BA, but I can't decide whether to go Brits or US for my free infantry. After the wide selection of units in FoW, though, getting used to the more generic options in BA is a bit of a downer. Going from being able to select specific units to 'guys who were roughly in region X in year Y' takes some getting used to. My dreams of a Devil's Brigade force are no more.
:911::respek::canada:

Funny, because I think the exact opposite. If a game is open for generic list, you can make exactly the force you want. For example, I made a platoon from the 4th Gebirgsjäger division for our CoC campaign, since I could simply check the OoB for them, and then make a force that roughly represented it.

So yeah, why could you not make the Devil's Brigade?

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

lilljonas posted:

Funny, because I think the exact opposite. If a game is open for generic list, you can make exactly the force you want. For example, I made a platoon from the 4th Gebirgsjäger division for our CoC campaign, since I could simply check the OoB for them, and then make a force that roughly represented it.

So yeah, why could you not make the Devil's Brigade?

I prefer the BA approach too, because I get to model whatever unit I want and I don't have to worry that they have some special rule that makes them overpowered or garbage.

You'd probably just run the Devil's Brigade as an american army made up of paratrooper and/or ranger squads and use a mix of the new paratrooper plastics and the british commando plastics

Or buy these: http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=15&cat=151&page=1

long-ass nips Diane fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Aug 19, 2016

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Arquinsiel posted:

Has anyone tried Oscer Sierra Charlie? The price for the rules makes me curious, but I just noticed that they come with mans so I am even more inclined to buy it.

It looks interesting but I can divine absolutely nothing about it from the page.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


lilljonas posted:

Funny, because I think the exact opposite. If a game is open for generic list, you can make exactly the force you want. For example, I made a platoon from the 4th Gebirgsjäger division for our CoC campaign, since I could simply check the OoB for them, and then make a force that roughly represented it.

So yeah, why could you not make the Devil's Brigade?

I'm not sure they really map to any of the infantry options. Maybe it's just me, but I can't really see 'oh these guys count as Rangers' or whatever as kind of lazy, I guess. I dunno, maybe I've been spoiled by FoW but having to go do homework if I want to build a list around a specific unit that falls between two stools isn't very appealing.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Yvonmukluk posted:

I'm not sure they really map to any of the infantry options. Maybe it's just me, but I can't really see 'oh these guys count as Rangers' or whatever as kind of lazy, I guess. I dunno, maybe I've been spoiled by FoW but having to go do homework if I want to build a list around a specific unit that falls between two stools isn't very appealing.

I think it might be because BA just sums everyone up as an experienced or inexperienced soldier, so there's no specialist units IIRC. Like, green grenadiers are also volksturm, I think.

Ilor
Feb 2, 2008

That's a crit.
Actually, one of the things I really like about CoC is that it has a couple of different knobs you can tweak in regards to unit quality. In addition to the green/regular/elite scale (which dictates how difficult it is to score hits on you), there's also the ability to add or remove a Command Die from your pool (which dictates who or what you can activate in any given phase). One represents a unit's overall training and experience, the other reflects its command-and-control capabilities. I know at least one of the pint-sized campaigns (though I forget which one) features a paratrooper force that is rated as regular but only gets 4 Command Dice (instead of the normal 5) because poor planning and horrendous weather conditions made their drop so disastrously disorganized. So on an individual/team level the men are well-trained and effective, but coordinating them well to accomplish your objective is gonna be challenging.

That's a pretty cool nuance, IMO.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops
That is pretty cool.

Man I want to play CoC :sigh:

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!
Speaking of lardies, we decided on the first two forces for Sharp Practice: French vs Russians in 1812, and we're blogging about it here:

http://krigetkommer.weebly.com/napoleonic-blog

The dismounted French Dragoons are ready to be based, so while waiting for the bases I ordered, I got started on the base layer on my French Line Infantry:

FastestGunAlive
Apr 7, 2010

Dancing palm tree.
Good blog entries, looking forward to more

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

Grey Hunter posted:

So, would anyone be interested in trying a game of Sharpe Practice over roll20?

I can't really commit to a game in one strech, but with roll20 we could leave the game "set up" and do turns asymietically. It would be interesting to make a thread and do a battle report to keep the other person informed in how the turn went, and to entertain people.

any takers? I can do the graphical bits.
i'll watch but not participate; if you decide to do Pike and Shotte let me know

edit: still funny to me that almost everyone in the milhist thread is also in this thread

HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Aug 20, 2016

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

HEY GAL posted:

i'll watch but not participate; if you decide to do Pike and Shotte let me know

edit: still funny to me that almost everyone in the milhist thread is also in this thread

Reading about historical battles is an excellent reason to start at least 1400 points of new armies.

BeigeJacket
Jul 21, 2005

Are there any goon approved alternate rule sets I can use my Team Yankee minis for?

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

BeigeJacket posted:

Are there any goon approved alternate rule sets I can use my Team Yankee minis for?

IIRC Cold War Commander works alright with 15mm too.

Ilor
Feb 2, 2008

That's a crit.

spectralent posted:

That is pretty cool.

Man I want to play CoC :sigh:
Then we should do it. I know exactly two things about VASSAL or Roll20 (those being "jack" and "poo poo"), but there has to be some way we can put something together so you can at least give the mechanics a try. Maybe we mine Grey Hunter for ideas after that Sharp Practice game, yeah?

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Ilor posted:

Then we should do it. I know exactly two things about VASSAL or Roll20 (those being "jack" and "poo poo"), but there has to be some way we can put something together so you can at least give the mechanics a try. Maybe we mine Grey Hunter for ideas after that Sharp Practice game, yeah?

Since my gaming group was scattered to the four winds I've run most of my campaigns off of R20, so I'm familiar with it.

It won't be the same without tiny plastic men to admire, but hey, it's better than nothing!

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Yup, messed up the link. This is the right ruleset, but I intended to link to the Elheim store page which has a bundle deal with mans to play with. I may take one for the team and report back.

Commissar Kip
Nov 9, 2009

Imperial Commissariat's uplifting primer.

Shake once.
Has anyone here played By Fire And Sword? How is it?

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops
Ilor, when we've got some time, do you have a preference for theatre/era? I'm personally pretty easy.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch

Commissar Kip posted:

Has anyone here played By Fire And Sword? How is it?

It's mechanically a really cool game but good luck finding someone to play with outside of Poland.

Also all the miniatures are sculpted by one dude and his output can be, um, variable.

ExtraNoise
Apr 11, 2007

Thanks to everyone for all the great advice on getting into Bolt Action. I've never done anything like this, so it's totally new for me.

A friend and I went to a shop up in Everett WA that does BA every Friday just to spectate some games. We were really anxious to see how it's played in real life (versus watching some games on YouTube). Unfortunately, the group that meets there decided to go do something else that evening. We were looking at all the miniatures to buy (so many) when a guy approached and chatted us up about BA a little. We explained that we were interested in playing and he offered to let us use his armies and teach us how to play.

He was such a great guy. Super patient, very helpful. We couldn't have asked for a better instructor. I took some pictures as we played:









We didn't get through a whole game, just two turns. Still, it was a LOT of fun and my friend and I are both excited to jump right into this. We're waiting for the BA2 starter to ship and building some scenery in the mean time. I spent all day yesterday following terrain tutorials from Youtube to create our first 4x6 gaming table.

tl;dr: Excited to make this a new hobby and glad this thread exists.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
Extremely jealous of your success.

Ilor
Feb 2, 2008

That's a crit.

spectralent posted:

Ilor, when we've got some time, do you have a preference for theatre/era? I'm personally pretty easy.
I'm easy. I'm doing mostly early war/North Afrika stuff right now, so let's maybe mix it up and do some late war Eastern Front.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Ilor posted:

I'm easy. I'm doing mostly early war/North Afrika stuff right now, so let's maybe mix it up and do some late war Eastern Front.

Hah! Sounds good :)

Ilor
Feb 2, 2008

That's a crit.
Also, I wrote up a brief AAR of this game here earlier, but I've gone and written up the full description (including how the campaign is structured and what some of the national special abilities are) on the TFL forums. Convenient link: http://toofatlardies.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=4225

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




El Estrago Bonito posted:

It's mechanically a really cool game but good luck finding someone to play with outside of Poland.

Also all the miniatures are sculpted by one dude and his output can be, um, variable.

I've had a small Polish army made up of Essex minis for ages. If anyone has some Turks or Cossacks or whatever and is near San Francisco; well I'm game.

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

ExtraNoise posted:

Thanks to everyone for all the great advice on getting into Bolt Action. I've never done anything like this, so it's totally new for me.

A friend and I went to a shop up in Everett WA that does BA every Friday just to spectate some games. We were really anxious to see how it's played in real life (versus watching some games on YouTube). Unfortunately, the group that meets there decided to go do something else that evening. We were looking at all the miniatures to buy (so many) when a guy approached and chatted us up about BA a little. We explained that we were interested in playing and he offered to let us use his armies and teach us how to play.

He was such a great guy. Super patient, very helpful. We couldn't have asked for a better instructor. I took some pictures as we played:









We didn't get through a whole game, just two turns. Still, it was a LOT of fun and my friend and I are both excited to jump right into this. We're waiting for the BA2 starter to ship and building some scenery in the mean time. I spent all day yesterday following terrain tutorials from Youtube to create our first 4x6 gaming table.

tl;dr: Excited to make this a new hobby and glad this thread exists.

Nice to see you have a good first game! Finding a good group of gamers is probably the largest influence on how enjoyable the hobby is, more so than game you're actually playing or how nice looking your miniatures are.

Myself, I spent this week researching French line infantry, trying to get the right colours for my first group of 8.... only to find out that the 1812 Bardin regulation (which reformed uniforms) wasn't fully implemented in the invasion of Russia in 1812! Let's just say that this period keeps on giving. Anyway, I'll paint these as best as possible, and blame it on them being early adopters. Base coat finished, now it's time for shading and details and all that jazz.

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

I just put together a M24 Chaffee for Bolt Action and I think I need to stick to plastic tanks only from now on. Working with the resin was super frustrating and I had to wear a drat mask.

The detail is nice, though!

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

Swagger Dagger posted:

I just put together a M24 Chaffee for Bolt Action and I think I need to stick to plastic tanks only from now on. Working with the resin was super frustrating and I had to wear a drat mask.

The detail is nice, though!

I'm a big proponent of plastic 1:48 tanks, for the very reason that I hate resin tanks.

Too bad there's almost no option at all for British tanks in North Africa, so resin it is right now. :/

Polikarpov
Jun 1, 2013

Keep it between the buoys

lilljonas posted:

I'm a big proponent of plastic 1:48 tanks, for the very reason that I hate resin tanks.

Too bad there's almost no option at all for British tanks in North Africa, so resin it is right now. :/

Rubicon does a nice Crusader kit. You can build it as the Mk I, II or III and its has turret options for the 3" gun or AA autocannons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w-I4fmk3Dc

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


So, somebody was able to come in 3rd at a Gencon Flames of War tourney with a Comet company. I choose to see this as a good omen.

Also my LGS had a kind of open day this Saturday, and it turns out that there's a guy who used to play that still has his army and another guy who has an Open Fire starter around, so I might actually have some opponents to play! Now I just need to finish an actual army...

I figured out what to do with my Open Fire Germans, I'm going to use one of the official free lists on the Flames website and make them Hungarians instead.

I'm hopefully holding off on starting any more than the ones I already have in the pipeline (11th Armoured Shermans, 11th Armoured Comets, Canadian Armoured Recce, Canadian/British Paratroopers and Hungarian Infantry). Oh and a Kampfgruffe Kerscher comedy list, since the Zvezda King Tiger means I get the tanks for the list for dirt cheap between PSC & Zvezda.

Are any of those particular garbage to be avoided? Aside from the Comets, I already bought those.

Also I think I might be going American for Bolt Action, if only because I could reuse the paints for my FoW starter US paras for the BA starter paratroopers.



In non-WWII news, since I got the Osprey Wargames bundle, I'm kind of wondering what some nice cheap Pirates/Samurai/Knights might be worth sourcing. I know Wargames Factory made some decent Samurai, are there good sources for the other two?

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spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Yvonmukluk posted:

So, somebody was able to come in 3rd at a Gencon Flames of War tourney with a Comet company. I choose to see this as a good omen.

Also my LGS had a kind of open day this Saturday, and it turns out that there's a guy who used to play that still has his army and another guy who has an Open Fire starter around, so I might actually have some opponents to play! Now I just need to finish an actual army...

I figured out what to do with my Open Fire Germans, I'm going to use one of the official free lists on the Flames website and make them Hungarians instead.

I'm hopefully holding off on starting any more than the ones I already have in the pipeline (11th Armoured Shermans, 11th Armoured Comets, Canadian Armoured Recce, Canadian/British Paratroopers and Hungarian Infantry). Oh and a Kampfgruffe Kerscher comedy list, since the Zvezda King Tiger means I get the tanks for the list for dirt cheap between PSC & Zvezda.

Are any of those particular garbage to be avoided? Aside from the Comets, I already bought those.

Kerscher is kind of a joke list, but you know that. It works, sometimes, but it has no arty and no recce and Tiger Is are kind of useless by late war. You're really hoping for a nice poorly-supported tank list so you can blow everything up with your great guns.

Which of those lists are you doing, otherwise? Hungarians are pretty good, and they have the classic assault pancake, which is, without exaggeration, probably one of the best late-war assault guns.

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