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Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

Twerkteam Pizza posted:

Ancoms are good op

I wholeheartedly agree but I've encountered enough "lol anarchy isn't that what fourteen year olds believe!?!?!?" to start kneejerkingly make concessions.

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Twerkteam Pizza
Sep 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

Lady Naga posted:

I wholeheartedly agree but I've encountered enough "lol anarchy isn't that what fourteen year olds believe!?!?!?" to start kneejerkingly make concessions.

If people insult you for liking Anarchy then they are morons and you should throw some Chomsky at them. That's a better habit to have.

(I get where you're coming from tho)

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012

Twerkteam Pizza posted:

Ancoms are good op

actually they are bad

Twerkteam Pizza
Sep 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

Silver2195 posted:

actually they are bad

"Nah"

- Noam Chomsky

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


Lottery of Babylon posted:

A couple of points about “race cuck porn”:

1. There is an insane amount of privately produced “amateur” content in this category. Unless this is a hoax, and is actually being done by semi-pros. Taken at face value, these purport to be amateur productions, not studio supported. I mean a great deal of it, not all.

This is even worse than professional perversity. It means that there is a sort of “grass-roots” movement to bastardize the White race that is being advocated by Whites. Imagine a husband who allows his wife to be taken by a black (or several of them); then imagine what it takes to film it, and post it to the internet. If this isn’t a defective human being, how would we define one?

2. This pornography has an “ideology”. Unlike other forms of porn, which are strictly about voyeurism, this form presents itself as either a guilt reducing correction employed by Whites to redeem themselves from racism; or is promoted as a panacea for the rest of the world in the promise of eliminating evil Whites. There is a self-righteous “porn for a higher purpose” shtick I don’t recall seeing in other perverse tropes. This is porn that is going to “fix” the unjust world.

3. Jews produce most professional porn, and always have. But I doubt there is any other form which gives them so much job satisfaction as this one. Especially when the girl is a blonde.

I really want to see this guy's sources (assuming they are not entirely fantasy) just because WOW that is a bunch of stuff that doesn't even remotely line up with anything I've seen. Where has he seen this ideology? How is it set up in a video that's mostly closeups of genitals? And does he really believe that these amateur pornographers are actual real-life husbands filming their wives loving black dudes?

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

Puppy Time posted:

I read a post on reddit once about a young guy who confessed that the only way he could get off is by watching black men gently caress white women. He felt disgusted after he was done but he kept going back to it. I’d say he’s broken.

Race cuck porn is full of irony. friend of the familys are perceived by liberals as powerless and are a race of beta males eager to have access on whatever terms are set, which makes them safe, even though they are predators, while feminists call White men dangerous and shame women away from submitting to White men even though White men are safe.

But keep in mind that while bondage porn is totally about respecting the woman, race cuck porn is in some sense the result of too much respect for women, and is unambiguously degrading towards women. That’s the kernel of truth in his sexual proclivities that may lead him out of his disgusting habit.

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

Lady Naga posted:

I wholeheartedly agree but I've encountered enough "lol anarchy isn't that what fourteen year olds believe!?!?!?" to start kneejerkingly make concessions.

Ancom is anarchist communist? I'm not really sure what that entails, but thanks for the video reccs

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

Puppy Time posted:

I really want to see this guy's sources (assuming they are not entirely fantasy) just because WOW that is a bunch of stuff that doesn't even remotely line up with anything I've seen. Where has he seen this ideology? How is it set up in a video that's mostly closeups of genitals? And does he really believe that these amateur pornographers are actual real-life husbands filming their wives loving black dudes?

From my very limited knowledge of the porn subgenre he's talking about (read: "I have seen it discussed on the Internet"), the most charitable interpretation I can manage is that he sees the stereotypical "white husband humiliated by superior sexual performance of black adulterous partner of wife" fetish as the pornographers actively saying that white people should be humiliated and ashamed of their race, because he doesn't parse that this porn is created for white fetishists to get off on humiliation and the fetishization of non-white "bucks." Then again, this is a guy who assumes "amateur" is synonymous with government funding, so I'm sure I'm being too generous with even this degree of assumed rationality.

Hate Fibration
Apr 8, 2013

FLÄSHYN!

Nessus posted:

It's a shame we lost the general use of the term "race prejudice," because I feel this would be really useful here. Because you can then say, "It is entirely and wholly possible for a black man to be eaten up with race prejudice and hate all white men, and you may well have met that man. But he is not "racist," because that describes the greater system."

The word bigoted provide a very convenient work around here.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Lottery of Babylon posted:

Race cuck porn is full of irony. friend of the familys are perceived by liberals as powerless and are a race of beta males eager to have access on whatever terms are set, which makes them safe, even though they are predators, while feminists call White men dangerous and shame women away from submitting to White men even though White men are safe.

But keep in mind that while bondage porn is totally about respecting the woman, race cuck porn is in some sense the result of too much respect for women, and is unambiguously degrading towards women. That’s the kernel of truth in his sexual proclivities that may lead him out of his disgusting habit.

"Watch as I clearly demonstrate how safe white men are *burns cross on lawn but keeps a fire extinguisher within reach just in case*"

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

Avenging_Mikon posted:

Ancom is anarchist communist? I'm not really sure what that entails, but thanks for the video reccs

Workers owning the means of production without centralized government.

I Killed GBS
Jun 2, 2011

by Lowtax

Twerkteam Pizza posted:

If people insult you for liking Anarchy then they are morons and you should throw some Chomsky at them. That's a better habit to have.

(I get where you're coming from tho)

Ancomms are good, but Noam Chomsky is bad, namaste

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!
Judo Chomp

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE
I was reading KotakuInAction a bit (I'm sorry) and by and large a lot of people there are even throwing Milo under the bus for this charity scholarship debacle thing. It seems even the hard at right is just sick of his poo poo at this point.

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

Tracula posted:

I was reading KotakuInAction a bit (I'm sorry) and by and large a lot of people there are even throwing Milo under the bus for this charity scholarship debacle thing. It seems even the hard at right is just sick of his poo poo at this point.

Well yeah two years ago he was the closest thing to a legitimate reporter their dumb movement had. Now though, they think they have a real shot at electing US president who is sympathetic to the alt-right and if they don't clean house over the next two months they'll lose everything.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

DarklyDreaming posted:

Well yeah two years ago he was the closest thing to a legitimate reporter their dumb movement had. Now though, they think they have a real shot at electing US president who is sympathetic to the alt-right and if they don't clean house over the next two months they'll lose everything.

I think you're attributing too much capacity for joined-up thinking to KiA. They generally change their opinions per whatever looks good at that instant much faster, sometimes mid-sentence. So he starts to look blatantly crooked (like he wasn't at the Kernel) and suddenly he was never a real gator.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I'm surprised that thing is still going on. Are there many of them left?

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

divabot posted:

I think you're attributing too much capacity for joined-up thinking to KiA. They generally change their opinions per whatever looks good at that instant much faster, sometimes mid-sentence. So he starts to look blatantly crooked (like he wasn't at the Kernel) and suddenly he was never a real gator.

The nature of all movements, and tiny insane internet movements more than most, is to expand and contract membership at a moment's notice as a defense mechanism

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Tracula posted:

I was reading KotakuInAction a bit (I'm sorry) and by and large a lot of people there are even throwing Milo under the bus for this charity scholarship debacle thing. It seems even the hard at right is just sick of his poo poo at this point.

i can believe that. alot of them always seemed wary because of his metric ton amount of articles making GBS threads on nerds/video games/all that poo poo. but he jerked them off so they stayed quiet. now that its retardly obvious he is a corrupt poo poo gently caress who is siphoning money off of them(no poo poo) they hate him.


divabot posted:

I think you're attributing too much capacity for joined-up thinking to KiA. They generally change their opinions per whatever looks good at that instant much faster, sometimes mid-sentence. So he starts to look blatantly crooked (like he wasn't at the Kernel) and suddenly he was never a real gator.

that too.



Jack Gladney posted:

I'm surprised that thing is still going on. Are there many of them left?

it isnt really. as a full fledged movement its mostly dead. the only people who talk about it are big talking heads like sargon and and various people on twitter jumping at shadows and every random troll shithead. the 8chan board(and 8chan itself) are mostly dead. now its mostly devoted sadbrains and hangers on and alt right dipshits. at this point they are mostly stay on their little reddit board and throw rocks at each other and sometimes sad brains psudo intellectuals like john macintosh. in the end they kinda just burned themselves out. if some new "controversy" starts it might get bad again, but hopefully not.

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Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i can believe that. alot of them always seemed wary because of his metric ton amount of articles making GBS threads on nerds/video games/all that poo poo. but he jerked them off so they stayed quiet. now that its retardly obvious he is a corrupt poo poo gently caress who is siphoning money off of them(no poo poo) they hate him.

Yeah, Milo always struck me as an extreme opportunist and that literally ANY publicity is good publicity. Can you imagine though if someone on the left pulled the same thing Milo did? The usual sites and groups would absolutely destroy them and MundaneMatt would probably make a fuckjillion videos about it. I honestly think he's literally made more than thirty videos about Ghostbusters 2016.


Jack Gladney posted:

I'm surprised that thing is still going on. Are there many of them left?

KotakuInAction basically just a smaller TumblrInAction except they bitch more about ethics and less about fat people. It's honestly really just boring at this point.

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Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Tracula posted:

Yeah, Milo always struck me as an extreme opportunist and that literally ANY publicity is good publicity.


KotakuInAction basically just a smaller TumblrInAction except they bitch more about S'JWs and less about fat people. It's honestly really just boring at this point.

yeah, milo is probaly a sociopath(clinically) or something like that. he uses people its how he works.

KIA is pretty much pointless now and GG is alive basicaly in name only at this point.

Peel
Dec 3, 2007

I guess it is possible (just) to grift the far right too obviously.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
The Hugos were last night and the Sad Puppies bloc won nothing again. The number of No Awards wasn't even much bigger than average (two IIRC.) I await reactions and spin.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Maxwell Lord posted:

The Hugos were last night and the Sad Puppies bloc won nothing again. The number of No Awards wasn't even much bigger than average (two IIRC.) I await reactions and spin.

what books won and who did the puppies nominate. i weirdly never followed the hugos or their various drama.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Dapper_Swindler posted:

what books won and who did the puppies nominate. i weirdly never followed the hugos or their various drama.

I can tell you who lost.

https://twitter.com/ChuckTingle/status/767422003309449216

darthbob88
Oct 13, 2011

YOSPOS

Dapper_Swindler posted:

what books won and who did the puppies nominate. i weirdly never followed the hugos or their various drama.
Finalists and winners, from TheHugoAwards.com
Sad and Rabid Puppies slates vs actual finalists.
ETA: Really, all you need is that second link; Puppies dominated the finalists again, but non-Puppy nominees won in every category apart from Best Graphic Story, Dramatic Presentation (Long Form), Fanzine, and New Writer, and even then, I suspect they won those categories just because of support from non-Puppy voters.

He was robbed. :arghfist: :( No, actually I'm on Phil Sandifer's side here, while Chuck Tingle probably does deserve a Hugo, this isn't his best work.

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WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

darthbob88 posted:

Finalists and winners, from TheHugoAwards.com
Sad and Rabid Puppies slates vs actual finalists.
He was robbed. :arghfist: :( No, actually I'm on Phil Sandifer's side here, while Chuck Tingle probably does deserve a Hugo, this isn't his best work.

Chuck Tingle is someone's name. That's not a joke?

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

whats the difference between sad or rabid? also sad because i would take witcher and mad max over the loving martian. that book/movie was boring as poo poo. the rest of the winners seem cool.

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

WrenP-Complete posted:

Chuck Tingle is someone's name. That's not a joke?

It's a nom de plume. Probably.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Dapper_Swindler posted:

doesnt the term Bigot still work though?
You can be bigoted about tons of poo poo, this is referring to this specific nuance.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Dapper_Swindler posted:

whats the difference between sad or rabid? also sad because i would take witcher and mad max over the loving martian. that book/movie was boring as poo poo. the rest of the winners seem cool.

Sad Puppies are implicitly racist and sexist. Rabids are explicit.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Dapper_Swindler posted:

whats the difference between sad or rabid? also sad because i would take witcher and mad max over the loving martian. that book/movie was boring as poo poo. the rest of the winners seem cool.
Sad Puppy: "Why can't sci fi just be like the stuff I remember with cool guys and spaceships and none of these chicks or minorities or queers? :("
Rabid Puppy: "Hail Hydra"

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Darth Walrus posted:

Sad Puppies are implicitly racist and sexist. Rabids are explicit.


Nessus posted:

Sad Puppy: "Why can't sci fi just be like the stuff I remember with cool guys and spaceships and none of these chicks or minorities or queers? :("
Rabid Puppy: "Hail Hydra"

sounds about right.

darthbob88
Oct 13, 2011

YOSPOS

Dapper_Swindler posted:

whats the difference between sad or rabid? also sad because i would take witcher and mad max over the loving martian. that book/movie was boring as poo poo
I'm not as steeped as some others, and I'm pretty sure we've mentioned it previously in this thread, but AFAIK the difference is "sad" vs "rabid". Larry Correia started the Sad Puppies to push good ol' two fisted action pulp stories, as a counter to what he saw as overly literary nominees with heavy-handed progressive messages, and also stories that he didn't write. Vox Day, who I'm pretty sure has come up in this thread just because he's such a shithead, split off the Rabid Puppies because he was angry that the Science Fiction Writers of America treat black author NK Jemisin like she's a person.
EFB. I'd also say that Sad Puppies pretend to be reasonable, Rabid Puppies don't.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010


https://twitter.com/ChuckTingle/status/767367843855888384

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Scott Alexander is on the sad puppy list :mmmsmug:

Dapper_Swindler posted:

whats the difference between sad or rabid? also sad because i would take witcher and mad max over the loving martian. that book/movie was boring as poo poo. the rest of the winners seem cool.

Sad puppies are the Walrus, rabid puppies are the Carpenter

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Dapper_Swindler posted:

whats the difference between sad or rabid? also sad because i would take witcher and mad max over the loving martian. that book/movie was boring as poo poo. the rest of the winners seem cool.

The Witcher is fuckin BALLER

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin
Jul 19, 2000


Oven Wrangler
Vox declared victory over the Hugo SJWs, which he'd do regardless of what happened, so that fact is about as informative about the state of reality as the ravings of a racist lunatic, which is to say Vox's usual blog output. Something interesting in his self-congratulatory wrap-up blog post though:

quote:

Observe that after only two years, we already have them voting almost entirely in reaction to us, changing and complicating their rules, and awarding SJWs instead of merit in most categories.
It's pretty funny that Vox is taking credit for the Hugos supposedly "awarding SJWs instead of merit in most categories" when their doing that was the stated motivation for the start of the whole Puppy sideshow in the first place, two years ago. I nominate this blog post for the 2017 go award for "best narcissistic time travel short story."

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Dapper_Swindler posted:

whats the difference between sad or rabid?

Sad puppies are like /pol ("I'm not a nazi, but...") and rabid puppies are like 8ch ("I'm totally a nazi, and...") .

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The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
'I like the Sad Puppy best,' said Alice: 'because you see he was a little sorry for the poor oysters.'
'He ate more than the Rabid Puppy, though,' said Tweedledee. 'You see he held his handkerchief in front, so that the Rabid Puppy couldn't count how many he took: contrariwise.'
'That was mean!' Alice said indignantly. 'Then I like the Rapid Puppy best—if he didn't eat so many as the Sad Puppy.'
'But he ate as many as he could get,' said Tweedledum.
This was a puzzler. After a pause, Alice began, 'Well! They were both very unpleasant characters—'

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