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That's interesting to hear because the tone of Higurashi's anime was something I really dug, particularly in the Question arcs before you knew what the hell was going on. That's probably my favorite part of the Umineko VN as well, though a lot of that might just be the god-tier OST setting the mood so wonderfully.
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the anime skipped over things for time which resulted in the plot not being very well explained so they had to put together an extra arc or two just to get information out there. i didn't think it did a very good job even then but i read the vn first so i'm probably naturally inclined to see it that way. also iirc they randomly threw out a second half spoiler waaaaay early just for shock value and that bugged the hell out of me. edit: just checked holy poo poo it's worse than I remembered, what the gently caress the rei op was cool for how well it caught the oppressive tone of that arc though lets hang out fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Aug 20, 2016 |
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Aug 19, 2016 22:50
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I did enjoy the anime but I didn't really understand the answers to the mystery or the way it fitted together thematically until I read the VN. Which is a shame because I think everything comes together very well at the end in the VN.
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Raxivace posted:That's interesting to hear because the tone of Higurashi's anime was something I really dug, particularly in the Question arcs before you knew what the hell was going on. That's probably my favorite part of the Umineko VN as well, though a lot of that might just be the god-tier OST setting the mood so wonderfully. I never watched the Higurashi anime but in the VN I would say that the answer arcs were better than the question ones. The way the reveals were done was nice (except for the final chapter one which kinda dragged a bit) and it felt like it actually continued building on the concepts established before while increasing the stakes, instead of taking a sharp right turn like Umineko did in its second half.
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Aug 19, 2016 23:24
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I still wanna know if his best friend's death genuinely affected how Umineko's story progressed or not.
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Aug 19, 2016 23:55
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I mean, there's no way it couldn't. I think it's silly to pin literally everything on that one thing, like some kind of magic bullet, but if even a casual acquaintance of mine died it'd affect how I chose to tell a story, let alone one of my closest friends.
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Aug 20, 2016 00:26
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either way, the ending to umineko is perfect, and if anyone disagrees with me i'll act like im cool with it but secretly be real mad
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Aug 20, 2016 00:29
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I think some explanations were skipped out in the last couple of episodes (possibly due to time constraints) but thematically I think it's pretty clear that the ending was always going to be what it was.
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Aug 20, 2016 00:31
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I thought the ending was really silly and bad when I read it years ago, though I might feel differently about it now.
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Aug 20, 2016 00:35
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haha that's fair, different strokes, haha
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Aug 20, 2016 00:36
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Raxivace posted:That's interesting to hear because the tone of Higurashi's anime was something I really dug, particularly in the Question arcs before you knew what the hell was going on. That's probably my favorite part of the Umineko VN as well, though a lot of that might just be the god-tier OST setting the mood so wonderfully.
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Raxivace posted:I thought the ending was really silly and bad when I read it years ago, though I might feel differently about it now. It helps to be able reread it all at your own pace The first time I was reading Umineko I was actually following the releases, so we had 6 mo-year of speculation points while waiting for the next part to release and then be translated
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voltcatfish posted:It helps to be able reread it all at your own pace Again, not sure how any of that might read to me now. Nate RFB posted:Basically the Higurashi anime presents itself as more of a straight up horror story, rather than the drama/tragedy with horror elements that the VN goes with. I'd say it arguably only really works as intended in the first arc. Other issues were that the short run time for each arc (relatively speaking) and lack of most of the internal monologues meant that a lot of characterization was lost, it had none of the awesome music (nearly Umineko tier) from the VN Answer arcs, and honestly it's just kind of really ugly even if people convinced themselves at the time that it somehow made it "scarier" (it didn't, it just looked super bad!). Raxivace fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Aug 20, 2016 |
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Aug 20, 2016 00:44
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Apparently it was just leaked that Dies Irae is getting a Steam release? I don't know much about that one other than the fact that it's chuuni and philosophical as hell, and everyone seems to love it. The version being localized is the all-ages re-release with extra content that most people seem to consider the definitive version.
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Raxivace posted:I think that was part of it for me (I jumped on slightly before the Episode 5 translation was put out, so I had a couple of years of too much speculation myself), though I was more bothered in the ending by all that stuff about Ange using "magic" to delude herself into thinking her family didn't die. It just struck me as a super unhealthy and bad message to send (Particularly after the emphasis on finding the truth in the first half of the story), and at the time it seemed like an uncritical endorsement of escapism to me. I don't care as much about the murders being "solved" in the story or whatever now.
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Cake Attack posted:either way, the ending to umineko is perfect, and if anyone disagrees with me i'll act like im cool with it but secretly be real mad I was spoiled on it, didn't wasn't enjoying the Umineko answer arks as much as the questions, and actually never bothered reading chapter 8. Good enough where it's still worth reading?
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Apparently it was just leaked that Dies Irae is getting a Steam release? I don't know much about that one other than the fact that it's chuuni and philosophical as hell, and everyone seems to love it. The version being localized is the all-ages re-release with extra content that most people seem to consider the definitive version. apparently its notoriously incredibly difficult to translate and had an extremely successful crowdfunding translation project, so it seems like it'll be worth checking out
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Cake Attack posted:either way, the ending to umineko is perfect, and if anyone disagrees with me i'll act like im cool with it but secretly be real mad  also higurashi is billed as a horror story and umineko as a murder mystery & they do have big elements of those but I'd put them in entirely different genres for the finished pieces
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Aug 20, 2016 06:26
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the best thing about dies irae is that the game's fanbase skewed so surprisingly female and loved the villains so much that they made a spinoff otome game about the villains
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the otome game is also a ripoff of interview with a vampire
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Stexils posted:apparently its notoriously incredibly difficult to translate and had an extremely successful crowdfunding translation project, so it seems like it'll be worth checking out The crowdfunding project was for an anime and not a translation, I think the translation part is news. But yeah, I guess it's a super big deal so I look forward to it.
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Aug 20, 2016 07:56
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Psn flash sale on norn9 and C:R Jic you haven't played them yet.
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Steins;Gate 0 is getting a special edition release on PS4 and Vita. Some of the stuff in there looks cool but I think I'll just stick with the regular PS4 version. Raxivace fucked around with this message at 07:38 on Aug 21, 2016 |
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i'm still not sold on the idea of a S;G sequel, but i'll probably play it regardless.
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I'll wait for it to come out and see what you guys think. Please keep me updated, tia.
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LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:i'm still not sold on the idea of a S;G sequel, but i'll probably play it regardless. I was hoping that it followed the Suzuha ending, as that's the closest thing to a good sequel hook I saw in Steins;Gate, but oh well. I'll probably end up playing it and complaining about it anyway.
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is fata morgana any good
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Yes.
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It's very good.
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Fata Morgana might be the best visual novel on Steam right now. It is extremely good.
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Rollersnake posted:I was hoping that it followed the Suzuha ending, as that's the closest thing to a good sequel hook I saw in Steins;Gate, but oh well. I'll probably end up playing it and complaining about it anyway. That would be great and it would have been cool and I almost said I hope they do that but 3 games out of one story is pushing it real hard
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Just finished The House in Fata Morgana, and drat. I had to actually stop myself at one point yesterday because I realized I had been at it for 9 hours. The writing, art, and music are all about as good as it gets, and I'd say 12.99 for the 68 track soundtrack was a good deal too. I think the thing I like most about the game though, is that this is probably the first game of any kind I've played with a convoluted-rear end story where I actually feel like I completely understand every part of it once its over, so good on them for that. Amazing translation too, unlike most VNs you actually forget that this game is Japanese while you're playing it. I think the game benefited a lot from the relaxed pacing, nothing at all felt rushed and they took their sweet time telling every story that needed to be told, so even though it's complex it's pretty easy to follow the whole way through. Overall probably my game of the year, and the same for the OST. Some of these Portuguese songs like Cicio and Giselle are crazy good.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Fata Morgana might be the best visual novel on Steam right now. It is extremely good. Woah, this is post G-Senjou no Maou, Higurashi 1-4 and Umineko 1-4. Is Fata Morgana really as good, if not better, than these?
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being better than g senjou isn't hard. I'm not super far but I can see it being better then Higurashi but it would need to become way better to touch umineko
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I love Umineko but I think Fata Morgana is a better all-round experience. The pacing and visuals are a lot stronger and I think the later chapters bring everything together a lot more cleanly (it took some supplemental materials and discussion before I really "got" Umineko's ending at all). I would've put it below Umineko before those later chapters though so I don't really disagree with you. e: It is my favourite VN but there are some recommended ones I haven't read/refuse to read. Irony Be My Shield fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Aug 24, 2016 |
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Woah, this is post G-Senjou no Maou, Higurashi 1-4 and Umineko 1-4. Is Fata Morgana really as good, if not better, than these? It's right up there, if not better than Umineko, yeah, and definitely better than Higurashi. The marketing for it is deceptive in a bad way, it's not just some weird gothic horror VN. It's a very complicated and intertwining series of some very human and emotional stories that are surprisingly well written. It's crazy, but easy to suspend your disbelief for. It's complex but easy to follow. It's just really freaking good. Great soundtrack, too.
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Dang, that's some good praise. I need to grab it whenever it's on sale.
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Woah, this is post G-Senjou no Maou, Higurashi 1-4 and Umineko 1-4. Is Fata Morgana really as good, if not better, than these? Higurashi chapter 4 isn't on steam yet.
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MegaZeroX posted:Higurashi chapter 4 isn't on steam yet. Ah yeah, the post-credits scene in Ch.3 confused me slightly.
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I expect some people to not like Fata Morgana as much as I did, but even so it has been criminally overlooked by almost everyone. It deserves a lot more discussion than it has been getting, and deserves a lot more sales as well for that matter.
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