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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:"And, of course, understand that by the very definition,you can't rape your dog" -chris kenny
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Mr Morrison, interviewed today on Sydney radio station 2GB, faced a call from broadcaster Ray Hadley to force the ARC to justify its grants in the front bar of pub in western Sydney or northside Brisbane.
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Aug 22, 2016 04:33
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they've already gutted the research sector, can't they leave off for a little while 
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Aug 22, 2016 04:40
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Bolt tries to create the appearance that it's a free speech issue when he would have soundly lost a defamation case anyway. The applicants chose 18c to make the point he only went after them because of their race. All the arguments totally ignore 18d as well, which pretty much negates 18c too. Bolt lost his case because he didn't do a shred of research before throwing a whole bunch of strangers under the bus. He stated he pretty much googled them and decided they looked white to him. If nothing else we did get Bolt screaming 'free speech is dead' from the front page of the Herald Sun without a shred of irony.
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Aug 22, 2016 04:48
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Jumpingmanjim posted:Mr Morrison, interviewed today on Sydney radio station 2GB, faced a call from broadcaster Ray Hadley to force the ARC to justify its grants in the front bar of pub in western Sydney or northside Brisbane. I wonder what kind of results this would actually yield? I mean the idea is so bizarre I can't even imagine a likely outcome. In a lot of ways I think the front bar of a pub in Western Sydney would be happy to defer to the ARC anyway. open24hours fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Aug 22, 2016 |
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Aug 22, 2016 04:56
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open24hours posted:I wonder what kind of results this would actually yield? I mean the idea is so bizarre I can't even imagine a likely outcome. The ARC representative getting glassed.
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Aug 22, 2016 04:59
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Jumpingmanjim posted:Mr Morrison, interviewed today on Sydney radio station 2GB, faced a call from broadcaster Ray Hadley to force the ARC to justify its grants in the front bar of pub in western Sydney or northside Brisbane. Why is "Will poor alcoholics like this?" a yardstick for anything whatsoever?
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Aug 22, 2016 05:30
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hooman posted:Why is "Will poor alcoholics like this?" a yardstick for anything whatsoever? Western Sydney mate. Western. Sydney.
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Aug 22, 2016 05:38
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Aug 22, 2016 05:43
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Honestly I think the efficacy of all government policy should be evaluated in this manner.
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Aug 22, 2016 05:43
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Western Sydney mate. "I'd like to see you get up and justify your subsidies to mining companies at centrelink" "I'd like to see you justify your freedom of navigation exercises to an AA meeting" "I'd like to see you justify your gay marriage policy to the liberal party room" It's devoid of all meaning. These people aren't qualified to make decisions about that subject matter so why the gently caress do you want experts to justify their decisions to them?
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Aug 22, 2016 05:43
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Aug 22, 2016 05:49
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Sydney.
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Aug 22, 2016 05:49
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Didn't the ALP whip their federal senses in Western Sydney? So just a fruitless popularity contest in the rags perhaps?
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Aug 22, 2016 05:50
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where Western Sydney goes, so does the nation.
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Aug 22, 2016 06:01
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Did you know the technical definition of Western Sydney? Now you do. https://twitter.com/THE_REAL_BIGJEZ/status/696308447520755712
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Aug 22, 2016 06:02
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open24hours posted:I can't work out the angle, are they utterly irrelevant or dangerous social engineering? As someone who gets ARC funding in a STEM discipline, I'll admit sometimes that when you look through the list of grants it's hard to imagine the benefit compared to some you know didn't get through. When postwar evolution of the university campus gets a grant, but potentially field-changing work on robotic surgery or pulmonary drug delivery by field-leading researchers gets knocked back, some dark corner of your brain starts to whisper that maybe Daily Telegraph is right. Then you recoil in horror at even thinking those words. Of course, other parts of your brain also think that NHMRC funding should be shifted to the ARC even though when you look at it objectively, your own work is probably going to have less impact on society than research on malaria. Taking potshots at arts research is always easy, but we either accept as a society that we value broad thinking, in both research and education, and fund it appropriately, or we don't. The fact is that projects like this make up a very small fraction of the total ARC budget, and if they're so concerned about us not getting enough funding in the hard sciences, the way to fix it is to stop cutting the pool of funding. Most of us spend at least a month of full time work each year writing applications that nationally have about a 14% success rate (which is often down not to quality, but the lottery of which reviewers you get assigned. People will submit the same grant two years running, get slammed the first year and get glowing reports and funding the second). It's a horrendously inefficient process, and the shrinking pool of funding is making it worse.
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Aug 22, 2016 06:06
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the thing is a lot of grants get given to the STEM equivalent of basket weaving or whatever, it's just that because arts and humanities studies are more immediately understandable to the average person they're the ones which generate outrage. 'socially engaged art'?! what nonsense! fusion power? oh yeah that sounds good fund that. (guess which one has cost billions upon billions of dollars and has been 'five years away' for the past four decades?) also literally everyone tangentially related to the research sector wants to reform the grants system, but the government won't give the research agencies any money to do so. hmmery
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Aug 22, 2016 06:22
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Majestic posted:As someone who gets ARC funding in a STEM discipline, I'll admit sometimes that when you look through the list of grants it's hard to imagine the benefit compared to some you know didn't get through. When postwar evolution of the university campus gets a grant, but potentially field-changing work on robotic surgery or pulmonary drug delivery by field-leading researchers gets knocked back, some dark corner of your brain starts to whisper that maybe Daily Telegraph is right. Then you recoil in horror at even thinking those words. Yeah I work in research too and I know what you mean. I don't know what other process, aside from competitive grants, would be any fairer though?
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Aug 22, 2016 06:28
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BBJoey posted:the thing is a lot of grants get given to the STEM equivalent of basket weaving or whatever, it's just that because arts and humanities studies are more immediately understandable to the average person they're the ones which generate outrage. 'socially engaged art'?! what nonsense! fusion power? oh yeah that sounds good fund that. (guess which one has cost billions upon billions of dollars and has been 'five years away' for the past four decades?)  Turns out weaving baskets underwater is pro tier basket weaving. Which makes the people who use it unironically ironic without them even realising it.Morrison suggesting doing something in Western Sydney? He wouldn't leave the safety of the shire to front a Western Sydney public bar and someone needs to rub his face in that as well as all the despicable stuff he's responsible for. I hope I live to see him tried for his crimes. I will accept a lynching/glassing from a Western Sydney public bar however. When allocating public funding a whiteboard can help enormously.
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Aug 22, 2016 06:31
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Scott Morrison attacks super funds not investing in coal for 'political reasons’
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Aug 22, 2016 06:37
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If it's such a great investment, maybe the government should invest in it and reap the profits.
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Aug 22, 2016 06:46
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Tokamak posted:If it's such a great investment, maybe the government should invest in it and reap the profits.
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Aug 22, 2016 06:48
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hooman posted:Scott Morrison attacks super funds not investing in coal for 'political reasons’ Lol who does this guy think he is to tell super funds how they should do their business. What are his political reasons for this attack?
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Aug 22, 2016 06:50
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Doctor Spaceman posted:The government isn't in the business of making money, and doing so would crowd out private industry. *desperately pumps money into coal and mining*
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Aug 22, 2016 06:51
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Aug 22, 2016 07:24
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The Narrator posted:Lol who does this guy think he is to tell super funds how they should do their business. What are his political reasons for this attack? He is a complete loving muppet, with the coal industries hand firmly milking his prostate. Turns out that industry controlled super funds invest more in infrastructure than bank controlled superfunds, but good ol scumfucker wont let facts get in the way of some union bashing.
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Aug 22, 2016 07:26
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Cartoon posted:
I know, I'm using basket weaving as shorthand for 'research projects that sound ridiculous on face value but are actually interesting and important'. in the same vein I'm not calling research into fusion power a waste of money, just noting that if you're looking for research expenditure with a lack of marketable outcomes (yet) you can do a lot better than the small fry in the HASS sector.
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Recoome posted:Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION  
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Aug 22, 2016 08:24
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I wonder if Bolt privately rues being beholden to his audience. Like today after he showed uncharacteristic decency by recognizing the banana incident as racist:quote:Normally you speak with a great deal of common sense. But bananas? Seriously? Would you mind giving us a PC list of acceptable fruit and vegetables to throw? quote:Wait a minute, You spend months telling everyone that the girl that called goodes an ape probably wasn’t a racist, she just didn’t understand that the word ape was insulting to aborigines. But you have no doubt this was racist, isn’t it quite possible that out of frustration she just grabbed the nearest thing without thinking? How can you be so sure one is racist and the other isn’t? quote:So, throwing fruit at somebody who is not white is now racist. What if the player she threw it a was white? Would that not be the same thing. Stop trying to pander to the lefties Andrew, quote:If she had taken an orange or a bag of marshmallows to the footy, would that still have counted as a “racist attack?” quote:The most racist people here are the ones making hay calling it ‘racist.” You reap what you sow I guess.
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snoremac posted:You reap what you sow I guess. Excellent result, a range of excuses we can demolish.
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Aug 22, 2016 08:53
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The brain dead morons have a point though, I was surprised when bolt condemned the banana throwing.
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Aug 22, 2016 08:58
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hmm i wonder which animal is commonly associated with bananas also i wounded whether there's a common association between these particular animals and black people???????????
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Aug 22, 2016 09:00
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Recoome posted:hmm i wonder which animal is commonly associated with bananas Bananas out for Harambe
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Football is bad
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Solemn Sloth posted:Football is bad Hey, it's just the afl that's bad. Nothing like that in the proud history of the NRL.
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iajanus posted:Hey, it's just the afl that's bad. Nothing like that in the proud history of the NRL. Gower has been involved in a number of alcohol-related off-field incidents. In 1999, Gower exposed himself to a female Irish tourist in a Coogee bar, blaming his behaviour on alcohol intoxication. He was dumped from the Kangaroos squad and fined A$2,500 by the NRL and a further A$500 in court after pleading guilty to indecent exposure.[21] In December 2005, Gower was fired as Panthers captain[22] after incidents at a charity golf event where he argued with several guests, groped the teenage daughter of former league player Wayne Pearce, chased Mitchell Pearce with a bottle before vomiting on him, streaked nude around the resort, stole and crashed a golf cart, held a butter knife[23] to the throat of a Sydney radio personality before throwing it at resort guests, and engaged in a brawl with resort security before being ejected from the official function and detained by police.[24] He was handed a "final warning" by the National Rugby League and fined A$100,000, with A$90,000 to be paid to an NRL programme encouraging the responsible use of alcohol by league players and $10,000 to replace the destroyed golf cart.[25] Gower was "deeply unhappy" that the Penrith Panthers club did not defend his reputation, and at one stage threatened to "walk" from the club.[26] Allegedly inebriated with alcohol in a bar at Kings Cross on 11 February 2007, Gower allegedly tried to kiss one man before biting him on the neck and sparking a brawl, and is accused of assaulting another man.[27][28] The Panthers club controversially reappointed Gower as captain in 2007, claiming the Peppermint Lounge incident was just a media "beat-up".[29] Australian swimmer Dawn Fraser said Gower was unfit to be captain, due to his alleged lewd behaviour at the charity golf event which she attended,[30] and Sarah Maddison, spokesperson for the Women's Electoral Lobby, said "reappointing Craig Gower would send all the wrong messages."[31]
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Jumpingmanjim posted:The brain dead morons have a point though, I was surprised when bolt condemned the banana throwing. Yeah I thought he would call it "admittedly silly" and then rail against the girl's crucifixion at the hands of the militant Left who do not understand forgiveness or decency. Edit: I can't tell if this (from Bolt's blog comments) is real or masterful trolling: quote:The more I hear about this Eddie Betts incident, the less I think it is about racism and the more I think it is about littering. For the Leftist media to overreact in the way they have is predictable, but concerning and the responsibility must surely fall on Betts’ shoulders to apologise to the girl and all conservatives. snoremac fucked around with this message at 09:31 on Aug 22, 2016 |
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