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I see a fish, that's some quality god of the sea material right there. (Also, drat. If that hill + river were one space to the northwest that'd be some god tier capital placement right there...)
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Aug 20, 2016 22:55
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It's funny, I like expanding like a madman, once you get over the "hump" of happiness with some faith purchased buildings of your choice (or just making sure you settle on the new luxes or immediately work them) and your 14 or w/e cities really start chugging the momentum is unstoppable Like I'll build a city even where there isn't a lux if it controls a major strait or creates an obvious luring killzone for a neighbor I'm wary of Sticking to four cities for a long part of a Civ game doesn't sound fun at all. My enemies are land hungry and I'm even hungrier. Can't let them get all the future uranium and future oil
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Aug 21, 2016 00:15
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Byzantine posted:hey guys which pantheon should i pick It's what the vanilla AI always snaps up first, so Goddess of Protection must be OP. Do they grab that so often because there are barbarians near their city when they get a pantheon pick, or what? Admittedly, before artillery and bombers, GoP can make warfare a nightmare, especially if it becomes part of a religion that gets spammed everywhere. GoP, garrisoned Tradition cities pack a mean punch. Not a great player choice unless you just want to turtle and have no standing army but garrisons and some barbarian busters. Play Babylon for the full-on doom fortress game with their unique beefy walls.
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Aug 21, 2016 02:31
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TheFallenEvincar posted:It's funny, I like expanding like a madman, once you get over the "hump" of happiness with some faith purchased buildings of your choice (or just making sure you settle on the new luxes or immediately work them) and your 14 or w/e cities really start chugging the momentum is unstoppable IIRC the Mayans had an u stoppable city spamming strategy it was pretty great
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Aug 21, 2016 03:45
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Yeah, I'd imagine that God-King would go first -- a quantifiable, around the board bonus.
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Aug 21, 2016 03:47
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Byzantine posted:hey guys which pantheon should i pick Definately god of the sea. Look, fish! E:drat didn't refresh.
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Aug 21, 2016 03:49
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Are you kidding? That start is ripe for Dance of the Aurora! You just know there's some primo hinterland nearby.
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Aug 21, 2016 04:37
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look at these scrubs. then look at all that salt. what you need is religious settlements so you can expand onto it fasterPvt.Scott posted:Admittedly, before artillery and bombers, GoP can make warfare a nightmare, especially if it becomes part of a religion that gets spammed everywhere. GoP, garrisoned Tradition cities pack a mean punch.
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Aug 21, 2016 05:02
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Bogart posted:Watch Marbozir's videos. Dude plays Deity regularly. And wins, I should add. Is this guy the new MadDjinn? I was bummed when he stopped playing Civ V. That dude had an insane deity win rate and went for oddball openers and strategies that typically only work on Emperor or below.
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Aug 21, 2016 18:03
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Marbozir starts out trying out different strats, identifies a snowballing civ that he won't be able to beat with an oddball strat, adjusts by murdering every civ. That's like 90% of Marbozir's games. He is pretty amazing at conquest victory from any position, but he's pretty quick to abandon cute strats if he thinks he'll lose.
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Aug 22, 2016 02:54
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Is this guy the new MadDjinn? I was bummed when he stopped playing Civ V. That dude had an insane deity win rate and went for oddball openers and strategies that typically only work on Emperor or below. He's definitely playing Civ6 but you could tell in a lot of the later vids MadDjinn was getting bored of Civ5
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Aug 22, 2016 03:49
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Trihugger posted:Marbozir starts out trying out different strats, identifies a snowballing civ that he won't be able to beat with an oddball strat, adjusts by murdering every civ. That's like 90% of Marbozir's games. He is pretty amazing at conquest victory from any position, but he's pretty quick to abandon cute strats if he thinks he'll lose. I haven't watched a lot of his Civ 5 videos but in one of his Civ 6 previews he jokingly referred to how he often wins by bribing civs to attack each other, which in my experience is a necessary part of any Immortal+ gameplan. I think he also said you can actually get a civ to attack another one when they share a DoF, which is something I've never been able to do but maybe it only works on the more backstabby civs in the first place?
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Aug 22, 2016 07:05
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You could probably get Montezuma or Napoleon to backstab their buddies. Even better if you do it, then immediately declare war on the civ you've bribed to not actually have to pay them anything (long as you were smart and only offered luxuries, GPT, or strategics).
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Aug 22, 2016 07:21
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Gort posted:Here are some hard-and-fast rules for expansion in vanilla: Lord Justice posted:
Thank you for these! I used to play Civ more a couple years ago, recently picked it up again and...I've been struggling. Some games have gone really well, some games not so much and I haven't been able to figure out why. This will at least help streamline some choices. A couple questions: What makes Poland so good? The free Social Policies? I've been playing Brazil (early struggle, but a good jungle start and you run away with it once you get Acoustics and Universities) and Shoshone (love the extra tiles and the Pathfinder ability in ruins). Austria also looks interesting for the ability to buy CSs. Any tips for playing Venice? It's so...different than anything else, I'd like to at least give it a shot but I don't have the experience under my belt to know how to start, it feels like. Edit: For the record, I rarely go to war. I know I should more, I just...don't. Edit 2: Any suggested mods? Nothing that will affect gameplay in huge ways, but HUD improvements, streamlining, things like that I guess. If it does affect gameplay in a meaningful way but it's still worth checking out for a relative newbie, I'm all ears. FWIW I have G&K + BNW and most, if not all DLC Civs. Shooting Blanks fucked around with this message at 09:09 on Aug 22, 2016 |
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Aug 22, 2016 08:56
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Yes, it's because of the Social policies. Take a look at the Enhanced User Interface (EUI) and see if that's up your alley.
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Aug 22, 2016 09:36
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Poland is considered good just because anything short of extreme warmongering in the early game will result in you seeing the information era. Getting a whole social policy TREE for 'free' is rather powerful and works well no matter how you decided to build. Venice is a fun variant that trades being able to colonize your 2nd-4th cities in favor of having more trades routes than you can practically use. Basically, puppet stuff, send routes back to feed Venice for extreme Pop, and surplus routes to to city states for infinite cash. Try not to get your routes pillaged, then buy EVERYTHING with that gold and win. Tradition, and just for kicks, Commerce policy trees. Going to war is actually great fun in Civ and dealing with the diplomatic fallout is fun. As long as you're not playing the perfect game on deity, then combat is a drag. Basically pick an era/unit you'll power spike with, go smush someone, raze their cities, and take only their capital. Rinse, repeat if anyone else looks at you funny, continue on with normal game. Do it the fun way, open with Honor!
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Aug 22, 2016 09:39
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I'm a big fan of Aztecs -> open Honour -> Build 4 Jaguars ASAP -> Farm barbarians to take you up the Tradition tree. It's slower than just going up Tradition straightaway, but it's a very safe start that deals with exploration, early warmongers and barbarians nicely, and you can often extort city states.
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Aug 22, 2016 10:52
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Kalko posted:I think he also said you can actually get a civ to attack another one when they share a DoF, which is something I've never been able to do but maybe it only works on the more backstabby civs in the first place? Speaking of, it's annoying how Atilla will constantly pop up and say "Hey, can I convince you to declare war on your buddies? No? Okay, how about next turn?" The game needs some kind of "no, and gently caress off asking me for the next N turns" option.
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Aug 22, 2016 15:49
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Speaking of, it's annoying how Atilla will constantly pop up and say "Hey, can I convince you to declare war on your buddies? No? Okay, how about next turn?" The game needs some kind of "no, and gently caress off asking me for the next N turns" option. I would also like to auto-queue reminding my neighboring civs to not send missionaries. About once per turn sounds right - just enough to make sure they get the message while I'm still building my last artillery to really give them the message.
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Aug 22, 2016 18:55
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Poland lets you do cool things like Tradition and some of Liberty to get the happiness policy so you can get more golden ages or trade the last copy of a luxury or two for more money. You can do this while still picking up the couple City State policies that make late game politics not a nightmare, filling out Rationality and probably getting an extra Ideology policy or two for more power if the game goes that long. Or you could just rush through Tradition or Liberty or whatever by using the great library to slingshot ahead. Etc.
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Aug 22, 2016 19:02
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Pvt.Scott posted:Are you kidding? That start is ripe for Dance of the Aurora! You just know there's some primo hinterland nearby. Well, actually...    Left side of Liberty, full Piety. Sacred Sites for Tourism's boost to conquest. Who's getting crusaded now, fuckers.  (Should've called it "Cult of Gaia" or somesuch)
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Aug 22, 2016 22:33
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Is vanilla Civ V worth playing (I already own it)? I remember hearing a lot of criticism when the game came out, and I know Firaxis tends to fix things in expansions not patches. Game's pretty ugly, but at least half of that is on my computer.
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Aug 23, 2016 18:10
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Rinkles posted:Is vanilla Civ V worth playing (I already own it)? I remember hearing a lot of criticism when the game came out, and I know Firaxis tends to fix things in expansions not patches. Not really, but if you want to get an actually good Civ V experience, you can grab the Complete Edition for around 10 bucks; it goes on sale a lot, and it'll probably go on sale around the time VI launches.
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Aug 23, 2016 18:47
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Byzantine posted:-snip- edit: wait nevermind i'm dumb and forgot salt is a mine resource, not a quarry one.
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Aug 23, 2016 20:06
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A fair amount of expansion fixes got patched into the base game, so you're not playing the nonfunctional mess that pre-expansion vanilla was. You're still missing a lot of cool stuff, though.
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Aug 24, 2016 02:41
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Rinkles posted:Is vanilla Civ V worth playing (I already own it)? I remember hearing a lot of criticism when the game came out, and I know Firaxis tends to fix things in expansions not patches. It's really not worth playing. Play it with the expansions or not at all. Gabriel Pope posted:A fair amount of expansion fixes got patched into the base game, so you're not playing the nonfunctional mess that pre-expansion vanilla was. You're still missing a lot of cool stuff, though. The "cool stuff" is necessary and what turned the game from garbage to pretty okay, though.
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Aug 24, 2016 05:39
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Eh, there patches along the same time frame that helped and if you were buying the expansions as they came out you wouldn't really be able to distinguish there. I'm of the opinion that vanilla civ v is playable and fine, and if you have that you should play it, if you like that you should get the expansions.
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Aug 24, 2016 15:53
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:It's really not worth playing. Play it with the expansions or not at all. Van Civ 5 certainly had it's issues and after experiencing the game with the x-packs I would never go back, but the base game was still worth playing. Especially considering there were a lot of changes to the base game made via patches. The guy should definitely try it if that's all he has. If he finds he enjoys it but thinks it could be a lot better then he should consider getting the x-packs.
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Aug 24, 2016 16:08
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I actually think the unit balance has gotten worse with expansions. In original Civ 5 a melee unit was quite capable of killing a ranged unit in one or two attacks, which meant you actually had to defend them. These days a warrior barely comes out ahead when attacking an archer, then the archer gets to shoot the warrior without retaliation, so everyone just goes with a mob of ranged units. Unless they play with the Vox Populi mod, of course.
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Aug 24, 2016 17:39
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Gort posted:I actually think the unit balance has gotten worse with expansions. In original Civ 5 a melee unit was quite capable of killing a ranged unit in one or two attacks, which meant you actually had to defend them. These days a warrior barely comes out ahead when attacking an archer, then the archer gets to shoot the warrior without retaliation, so everyone just goes with a mob of ranged units. I'm playing with the Mod and I didn't realize the difficulties were differnet. But I am getting my rear end BEAT. I did really well early game and now ideologies and I'm just sinking. I'm at -75 happiness lol. ALso the UI is messed up and I can't change my great works to make bonuses so I dunno this game is a wash. Mod owns.
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Aug 24, 2016 18:05
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Your UI probably shouldn't be messed up.
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Aug 24, 2016 18:07
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Potentially dumb question, but is there a mac version of the CBP?
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Aug 24, 2016 18:17
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Gort posted:Your UI probably shouldn't be messed up. Yeah I know. Everything seems to work mostly fine except that one screen. I can't see my different cities great works nor can I select them to move them around. Everything else seems to be workign really well. I guess from time to time the game will hang up and say "Choose Production" but i can't select anything on the city and I have to reload. I've also been unable to relinquish cities to folks or liberate them. I'm guessing that is a UI issue as well. When I reinstall the mod should I delete entire folders or just the specific files they list out on their forum?
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Aug 24, 2016 19:01
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Jastiger posted:I did really well early game and now ideologies and I'm just sinking. I'm at -75 happiness lol. Jesus  I had a bit of a scare in my latest game (a domination run) when my happiness plummeted to -53 over a few turns. I'm not even sure how it happened but poverty seemed to be the biggest contributor and I'm still struggling with it. At the time, I'd already built all the money making buildings my tech level would allow so I can only assume I hosed up somewhere else - maybe trade routes and a lack of villages. I was in the middle of a war so it wasn't a good time to be having to dig my way out of a happiness hole. I managed it only by converting production into gold in basically every city. Since then I've bee lined economy techs and things are better, but I'm still on a knife edge with four more capitals to nab. Mod does indeed own.
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Aug 24, 2016 21:20
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Jesus How do you see what is specifically causing unhappiness? Am I seeing it right, its just not there? It says mos tof it is from specialists and from Public Opinion. -25/5 by pop, 25.5 from Ubranization, 28 from Public Opinion (ideological Pressure). For some reason the Netherlands was able to pump out like 200 tourism. I can't move my great works around, so that hurts, but yeah. I dunno what to do other than keep pushing my own culture. How can i see how much poverty/boredom/unrest is causing unhappiness (if i have any)
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Aug 24, 2016 22:00
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Jastiger posted:How do you see what is specifically causing unhappiness? Am I seeing it right, its just not there? It says mos tof it is from specialists and from Public Opinion. -25/5 by pop, 25.5 from Ubranization, 28 from Public Opinion (ideological Pressure). For some reason the Netherlands was able to pump out like 200 tourism. I can't move my great works around, so that hurts, but yeah. I dunno what to do other than keep pushing my own culture. If you mouse over the happiness meter on the main game screen you get a breakdown of what's causing unhappiness. If you mouse over the happiness meter on the city screen you get a breakdown of what's causing unhappiness in that particular city.
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Aug 24, 2016 22:01
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Gort posted:If you mouse over the happiness meter on the main game screen you get a breakdown of what's causing unhappiness. It looks the same in city and in main game screen. Is my UI messed up or do I just not have any city specific unhappyness?
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Aug 24, 2016 22:03
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Jastiger posted:It looks the same in city and in main game screen. Is my UI messed up or do I just not have any city specific unhappyness? Yeah, this is sounding more and more like a mod conflict to me - probably with a current or old install of Enhanced User Interface or the multiplayer mod pack. The forums have this to say about it on this page. Frequently asked questions: My Interface is messed up when I use Community Balance Overhaul and the Community Patch! Are you using EUI? If so, did you follow the instructions in the EUI Compatibility files above? If not using EUI, clear your cache (delete all files in the Documents\My Games\Civilization 5\cache folder). If it's the multiplayer mod pack, delete that out of the DLC folder you installed it into.
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