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I think a lot of problems with Prison Break's post-season 1 plotting is just because they never really expected to get more than one season.
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Slime posted:Yeah, just like...remember where he put them and pick them up later. Then again there was a lot of stuff in the escape plan and post-escape plan that it seemed like he could really easily remember if he just tried. Things like stashing some clothes and money isn't something he should require a reminder to find, damnit! Especially the bit about his mom's name which was his endgame. Maybe the bullshit tumor or whatever they gave him in season 4 was effecting his brain sooner than we thought. I'd also like to add "the entirety of season 4" to my list of irritating prison break stuff.
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Aug 22, 2016 15:18
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muscles like this? posted:I think a lot of problems with Prison Break's post-season 1 plotting is just because they never really expected to get more than one season. I think the same exact thing happened with Heroes and a bunch of other "Really good for that first season, but then what the gently caress?" shows.
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Aug 22, 2016 15:26
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The funniest thing about Prison Break's plotting is that they didn't even expect to get a full first season, which is why halfway through the season they're breaking out of prison, only to stop and go back in. That was originally planned to be a season finale and them actually breaking out but then the show turned out to be popular so Fox gave them a back half and they delayed the actual escape. It's also why the first half of the season is them dealing with a heat wave and then all of a sudden it's snowing a couple of days later.
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Aug 22, 2016 15:34
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I think the same exact thing happened with Heroes and a bunch of other "Really good for that first season, but then what the gently caress?" shows. Heroes planned for multiple seasons, but what they wanted to do was drop most of the cast for a new one each time. Once the realized and/or were told you can't do that with a regular season network show things changed.
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Aug 22, 2016 15:40
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Heroes was just poo poo. I tried to watch the reboot just to laugh at it, but it was so pathetically inept I just couldn't finish it - and I watched every episode of Dexter. You can say what you want about Dexter, but that show knew what it wanted and went for it. Sure, what it wanted was for him to become a lumberjack, but that's not important right now. Heroes never, at any point, knew what it wanted to be or where it wanted to go or how it wanted to get there. But it did, at every point, do so in the stupidest way possible.
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Aug 22, 2016 16:08
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At the end of Suicide Squad the characters are all having a big fight with the Enchantress and Killer Croc teams up with Deadshot to throw a bag of explosives into her giant blue sky laser. Deadshot shoots it (after drama happens) and the bag explodes causing the vortex thingy to collapse and stop destroying the earth. I have no idea why the characters in the film thought that would work. As the audience, I certainly have no idea why it got played up with slow motion and witch illusion drama. I guess it did stop the world from being blown up, which was nice, but really basically everything about the Enchantress' and her plan was the worst most Irrationally Irritating part of a movie that had some good elements buried under whatever they were going for.
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Aug 22, 2016 16:19
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The showrunners for Dexter have stated that they didn't really want to end it there but Showtime forced their hand telling them that no matter what they weren't allowed to kill him off because they wanted to leave in the option to continue/spin off.
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Aug 22, 2016 16:19
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Good god, how could you watch every episode of Dexter... Is this some sort of cry for help?
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Aug 22, 2016 16:53
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It's irrationally irritating to me that it's been three years and I'm still filled with incoherent rage whenever anyone mentions the ending of Dexter.
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Aug 22, 2016 17:09
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Dexter was good if you stopped watching after John Lithgow's season like I did.
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Aug 22, 2016 17:41
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BROCK LESBIAN posted:Dexter was good if you stopped watching after John Lithgow's season like I did. That's how I did it! Can someone run down the ending for me? I've heard the lumberjack part, but how does he get there?
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Aug 22, 2016 17:42
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BROCK LESBIAN posted:Dexter was good if you stopped watching after John Lithgow's season like I did. I specifically watched the first three seasons because I like John Lithgow, but it really wasn't worth it. As great an actor as he is, Deb is twice as much a bad actor.
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BROCK LESBIAN posted:Dexter was good if you stopped watching after John Lithgow's season like I did. And also didn't watch the 2 between season 1 and that one. Leavemywife posted:That's how I did it! Debra gets shot by the season's bad guy and ends up brain dead, Dexter pulls the plug on her, dumps her body where he dumps all the people he killed for some reason (some really obvious symbolism I guess) and fakes his death by driving his boat into a hurricane. During this Dexter had found out out his urge to kill is gone thanks to true love, which is what allowed him to be okay as a lumberjack. The true love girlfriend was also a serial killer and they were going to flee the country together (because she was under investigation, not him. Dexter is perfect after all) but instead she ends up stuck with his dumb kid thinking Dexter is dead. Aphrodite has a new favorite as of 17:56 on Aug 22, 2016 |
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Aug 22, 2016 17:47
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Aphrodite posted:And also didn't watch the 2 between season 1 and that one. Yeah, as much as the drop in quality was marked after S4, people are still remembering S2 and S3 with rose tinted glasses. The Doakes/Lila stuff was really bad. Jimmy Smits in S3 was almost interesting but the whole season squanders any good it might have had. Dexter had 1 great season and 1 good season and the rest were exercises in frustration and stupidity.
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Aug 22, 2016 17:57
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A few months ago the girlfriend watched through Dexter. I tried so hard to get her to stop after Lithgow but she refused. So I ended up seeing all of Dexter a second time and it was still awful
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Aug 22, 2016 18:13
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I managed it by having the TVIV thread to laugh along with. How anyone could manage it alone is truly beyond me.
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Aug 22, 2016 18:36
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Not only have I seen all of Dexter but I've seen seasons 1-5 twice and 1-4 three times. I hate it. I hate it so much but there are days when I just need to turn my brain off due to stress and a lovely familiar show is good for that.
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Aug 22, 2016 18:54
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Mortanis posted:The Doakes/Lila stuff was really bad. Jimmy Smits in S3 was almost interesting but the whole season squanders any good it might have had. Doake's was a great law enforcement to Dexter. Something the show never really had again after his death, there was that dodgy cop who brought in Robocop to investigate Dexter. But he gave up on that as soon as he started boning Dexter's sister and that was the end of that. Doake's deserved a better death than he got, it wasn't very thematically satisfying to have Lila take the burden of choice of Dexter. The show could have been something amazing in better writers hands. But they were just too attached to Dexter as some "superhero" that they gave him plot armour that kept him from ever being exposed. It really should have built up to an ending of him dead or in jail.
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Aug 22, 2016 19:23
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Leavemywife posted:That's how I did it!  Can't forget this classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyyM_JjN7yw The Duke has a new favorite as of 20:15 on Aug 22, 2016 |
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Aug 22, 2016 20:12
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Marenghi posted:Doake's was a great law enforcement to Dexter. Something the show never really had again after his death, there was that dodgy cop who brought in Robocop to investigate Dexter. But he gave up on that as soon as he started boning Dexter's sister and that was the end of that. So much this.
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NorgLyle posted:At the end of Suicide Squad the characters are all having a big fight with the Enchantress and Killer Croc teams up with Deadshot to throw a bag of explosives into her giant blue sky laser. Deadshot shoots it (after drama happens) and the bag explodes causing the vortex thingy to collapse and stop destroying the earth. I have no idea why the characters in the film thought that would work. As the audience, I certainly have no idea why it got played up with slow motion and witch illusion drama. I guess it did stop the world from being blown up, which was nice, but really basically everything about the Enchantress' and her plan was the worst most Irrationally Irritating part of a movie that had some good elements buried under whatever they were going for. "Well, I just noticed the machine used a xenon laser and-" "Yeah, no, we never had one of those." "So... how did that work, then?" "I dunno but I guess you're hired, now go figure it out."
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Aug 22, 2016 21:24
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Wasn't there also the other cop that suddenly looked like an addict having lost so much weight in between seasons or something? He was skinny/fit to begin with, but then took it too far for some reason.
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Aug 22, 2016 22:57
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Taeke posted:Wasn't there also the other cop that suddenly looked like an addict having lost so much weight in between seasons or something? He was skinny/fit to begin with, but then took it too far for some reason. Yes that was Quinn of the keyboard scene posted above. The dodgy cop I mentioned who later brought Robocop into the series. He started out as a transfer from narcotics who was under investigation by a Chinese lady from internal affairs, but it turned out to be nothing as she was just a jilted lover or something.
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Aug 22, 2016 23:15
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They should have just gone with following the original books like season 1 did.
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kizudarake posted:They should have just gone with following the original books like season 1 did. Apparently the books turn into him having a literal demon in him.
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Len posted:Apparently the books turn into him having a literal demon in him. And then they just as suddenly drop it in the next book, which is great
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Aug 22, 2016 23:40
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kizudarake posted:And then they just as suddenly drop it in the next book, which is great Didn't they also turn Doakes into a limbless sidekick? I read the first two or three after season 1, and thinking thank God they had the sense to break away from those plots. But looking back it would still have probably been better than what they gave us.
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kizudarake posted:And then they just as suddenly drop it in the next book, which is great Jeff Lindsay has admitted that the whole idea was stupid and totally ignored it in the remaining novels. The only part of Dexter in the Dark that stayed in continuity was Dexter discovering that Astor and Cody are messed up the same way he is. If anyone wants to know how the books end: Rita is murdered and Dexter is arrested for the crime, which ironically he didn't commit. He's sprung on a technicality by a lawyer hired by his brother Brian (who isn't killed in the books), because Brian needs his help to get away from a drug lord that he's stolen money from. They manage to kill all the cartel rank and file in Miami, but the boss has captured Deborah, Cody and Astor and is holding them on his yacht. Brian and Dexter attempt a rescue, which succeeds, but Brian is killed aboard the boat and a critically wounded Dexter falls overboard and drowns. It's still a bit contrived, but much better than the series.
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In the Wizard how did Fred Savage and Jenny Lewis know about all the warp whistles in Mario Brothers 3 but the autistic kid didn't ? It would be cool if they made a modern day Wizard sequel where Jimmy is weirdo Chris Chan style shut in who spends all his time streaming SMB3 speed runs and writing erotic Mario fanfic in his parents basement.
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Aug 23, 2016 01:40
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Your Gay Uncle posted:In the Wizard how did Fred Savage and Jenny Lewis know about all the warp whistles in Mario Brothers 3 but the autistic kid didn't ? No it wouldn't. This wouldn't be cool at all. Movie makers don't believe his post.
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Aug 23, 2016 01:47
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Your Gay Uncle posted:In the Wizard how did Fred Savage and Jenny Lewis know about all the warp whistles in Mario Brothers 3 but the autistic kid didn't ? That didn't even make sense to me when I was a kid. That's when you realized although it was not the worst kid adventure movie it was also an ad. And the power glove is bad, real bad. Only a real rear end in a top hat would have one.
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Aug 23, 2016 02:39
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The stupidest part about The Wizard is that big elaborate tournament is two loving rounds.
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syscall girl posted:That didn't even make sense to me when I was a kid. haha i made the wonder years kid say "it's so bad" but kids are dumb they'll buy it now because it's the 80s and bad means good. We're solid, legally. No refunds!
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The original powerglove prototype was actually really good and worked. The problem was that it cost like $7,000 to build.
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Marenghi posted:The dodgy cop I mentioned who later brought Robocop into the series. Your Gay Uncle posted:It would be cool if they made a modern day Wizard sequel where Jimmy is weirdo Chris Chan style shut in who spends all his time streaming SMB3 speed runs and writing erotic Mario fanfic in his parents basement.
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Aug 23, 2016 11:48
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My Lovely Horse posted:ADAM SANDLER in No, that already came out last year.
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Dexter had the same problem as Weeds and a lot of other Showtime series in that they never know how or when to end. They're like CBS in that they just allow their shows to become zombies. Which I guess is fine with a sitcom, rarely does anything of substance happen, but it's tiring and depressing while watching through a drama. And almost every season of Dexter was the same (New serial killer in Miami! Is Dexter jealous? Is he trying to serve justice? Is this new serial killer a better or worse person than Dexter? Kill 'em anyway) until Edward James Olmos shows up as a loving ghost.
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Now that was legitimately hilarious. Goons in the TVIV thread spotted by about his second appearance that he wasn't interacting with anyone other than the new serial killer and this is a show which spent half a dozen seasons with its own 'head' character with Dexter's dad, so it's not like people were unfamiliar with the idea. But the show treated it like it was loving Shakespeare. There were just so many moments which were so bad they were good. Like the time Dexter discovered what a window was. 
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