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DoctorG0nzo posted:It actually hasn't been as devastatingly complex as I expected so far. Like, very very complex, but I read Ulysses earlier in the year and compared to that it's practically a standard narrative. I am also not finished yet, however, and I fully expect it to go tits-up soon "More straigtforward than James Joyce"
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Zesty Mordant posted:At this point the idea I have of Gravity's Rainbow has to be ten times what it actually is. I imagine something like a cross between Finnegan's Wake, but there are sections that are actually just a music score, shape poems of the daydreams one person has in the span of three nanoseconds that takes up 30 pages, and a chapter that's just an aircraft blueprint. Also, there are 500 characters with names like Glumpy and Dwight. R. Q. Catastrobomb. Form is one of the only things it's pretty mundane in. It has songs pretty often but apart from that it's all just ludicrously good prose.
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DoctorG0nzo posted:It actually hasn't been as devastatingly complex as I expected so far. Like, very very complex, but I read Ulysses earlier in the year and compared to that it's practically a standard narrative. I am also not finished yet, however, and I fully expect it to go tits-up soon Has Slothrop dressed up as a colourful pig yet? I seem to remember that's the point the narrative just dissolves. I thought it was when he dressed up like a rocket to steal weed from the Potsdam Conference but I just looked it up and that's way earlier in the book than I remember it being.
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Zesty Mordant posted:At this point the idea I have of Gravity's Rainbow has to be ten times what it actually is. I imagine something like a cross between Finnegan's Wake, but there are sections that are actually just a music score, shape poems of the daydreams one person has in the span of three nanoseconds that takes up 30 pages, and a chapter that's just an aircraft blueprint. Also, there are 500 characters with names like Glumpy and Dwight. R. Q. Catastrobomb. It is much easier than Ulysses or Finnegan's Wake. My fave Pynchon name is 'Rollo Groast'. Having such wacky names helps u remember who's who when there's 400 of them
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StashAugustine posted:"More straigtforward than James Joyce" Haha I know it's not exactly a real metric but I figured it was relevant since I frequently heard Gravity's Rainbow directly and unambiguously compared to Ulysses CestMoi posted:Has Slothrop dressed up as a colourful pig yet? I seem to remember that's the point the narrative just dissolves. I thought it was when he dressed up like a rocket to steal weed from the Potsdam Conference but I just looked it up and that's way earlier in the book than I remember it being. Yeah the pig thing hasn't happened yet, the Rocketman thing started about 100 pages ago, it was goofy but I went with the flow. I just got to the Bianca part and my grossed out reaction to it sparked a decent chunk of the last page of conversation
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Aug 22, 2016 03:41
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Pig section is Part 4, I think
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Aug 22, 2016 04:23
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Slothrop: I have a mission to find out the mysterious circumstances surrounding my life and nothing will distract or deter me A hobo: hey I buried a pound of hash on the Russian side of the city can you go dig it up Slothrop: ok
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Aug 22, 2016 04:24
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Boil Bouillabaisse!
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This thread has mostly convinced me that GR is literary bizarro fiction, so its high-quality prose can cover up for the fact that a bunch of ultra-juvenile nerds just want to read about weed rockets and poop sex.
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Bandiet posted:This thread has mostly convinced me that GR is literary bizarro fiction, so its high-quality prose can cover up for the fact that a bunch of ultra-juvenile nerds just want to read about weed rockets and poop sex. Ever read Canterbury Tales?
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Aug 22, 2016 05:12
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Ever read Canterbury Tales? Lol
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Bandiet posted:This thread has mostly convinced me that GR is literary bizarro fiction, so its high-quality prose can cover up for the fact that a bunch of ultra-juvenile nerds just want to read about weed rockets and poop sex. And banana breakfasts and pig costumes and everlasting light bulbs awful British candy and tarot and kicking dudes in the nuts while screaming
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Aug 22, 2016 08:12
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Having never read any Pynchon other than lot 49 makes watching this conversation fascinating
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Bandiet posted:This thread has mostly convinced me that GR is literary bizarro fiction, so its high-quality prose can cover up for the fact that a bunch of ultra-juvenile nerds just want to read about weed rockets and poop sex. you in the 1500s: this rabelais guy is just bizarro literature, farts and piss aren't at all funny
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A human heart posted:you in the 1500s: this rabelais guy is just bizarro literature, farts and piss aren't at all funny Got em!
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Franchescanado posted:Pig section is Part 4, I think It's near the end of part 3.
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Heath posted:Slothrop: I have a mission to find out the mysterious circumstances surrounding my life and nothing will distract or deter me Lame as it sounds I think these sections might've been less comprehensible to people until loving video games popularized the term "sidequest"
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I believe humanity was familiar with the feeling that what they want to or ought to be doing is being sidelined by bullshit before that.
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Mr. Squishy posted:I believe humanity was familiar with the feeling that what they want to or ought to be doing is being sidelined by bullshit before that. No, I don't think it existed until Return to Krondor II
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Having it narrowed down to one dumbass word does make it easier. Everyone knows that dumb fat nerds have a direct line to Pynchon’s thought process
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Having never read any Pynchon other than lot 49 makes watching this conversation fascinating I think they're making some of this up
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Heath posted:Slothrop: I have a mission to find out the mysterious circumstances surrounding my life and nothing will distract or deter me This is pretty much the summary of any Pynchon plot.
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End Of Worlds posted:I think they're making some of this up Buddy we haven't even gotten to the high flying pie fights, weird Hansel & Gretel BDSM sex compound interspersed with a story about making the dodos extinct, erectile fabrics, etc.
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Aug 22, 2016 16:23
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Alright, gently caress it. I'm gonna read Gravity's Rainbow.
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Bandiet posted:This thread has mostly convinced me that GR is literary bizarro fiction, so its high-quality prose can cover up for the fact that a bunch of ultra-juvenile nerds just want to read about weed rockets and poop sex. let me tell you about James Joyce's love letters
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Popular Human posted:Alright, gently caress it. I'm gonna read Gravity's Rainbow. Just blow through Part 1. Edit: Mel, isn't GR in your Big Book list you wanted to read? When are you doing tha?
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"I only read Serious Literature," he sneered as he turned the page to the hot air balloon pie throwing chase scene
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Franchescanado posted:Just blow through Part 1. I've been burned out the last few months. Just redecorated my apartment though and it's created a more comfortable atmosphere for reading at home
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ulvir posted:let me tell you about James Joyce's love letters 
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To be fair, she does look like she'd have some intense flatulence. So smug; the flash let out and so did she.
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Franchescanado posted:To be fair, she does look like she'd have some intense flatulence. You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I hosed them out of you, big fat fellows, long windy ones, quick little merry cracks and a lot of tiny little naughty farties ending in a long gush from your hole. It is wonderful to gently caress a farting woman when every gently caress drives one out of her. I think I would know Nora’s fart anywhere. I think I could pick hers out in a roomful of farting women. It is a rather girlish noise not like the wet windy fart which I imagine fat wives have. It is sudden and dry and dirty like what a bold girl would let off in fun in a school dormitory at night. I hope Nora will let off no end of her farts in my face so that I may know their smell also.
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DoctorG0nzo posted:You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I hosed them out of you, big fat fellows, long windy ones, quick little merry cracks and a lot of tiny little naughty farties ending in a long gush from your hole. It is wonderful to gently caress a farting woman when every gently caress drives one out of her. I think I would know Nora’s fart anywhere. I think I could pick hers out in a roomful of farting women. It is a rather girlish noise not like the wet windy fart which I imagine fat wives have. It is sudden and dry and dirty like what a bold girl would let off in fun in a school dormitory at night. I hope Nora will let off no end of her farts in my face so that I may know their smell also. *Italian chef finger kiss*
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Mel Mudkiper I was inspired by your posting in that thread to come here and ask after books by muslim authors, which I will now do: what are some good and/or cool books by muslim authors?
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Peel posted:Mel Mudkiper I was inspired by your posting in that thread to come here and ask after books by muslim authors, which I will now do: what are some good and/or cool books by muslim authors? Randa Jarrar's "A Map of Home" is really good.
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Peel posted:Mel Mudkiper I was inspired by your posting in that thread to come here and ask after books by muslim authors, which I will now do: what are some good and/or cool books by muslim authors? I just finished My Name Is Red by Orhan Pamuk, and the center conflict is based around Muslims dealing with the slow integration of Western ideas during the late-16th century. Very informative, and also a fun and clever book.
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This is gonna sound ignorant but is Lahiri Muslim?
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A human heart posted:you in the 1500s: this rabelais guy is just bizarro literature, farts and piss aren't at all funny See: A Confederacy of Dunces
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Speaking of Joyce, I've read up to 160 in Ulysses and I'm loving the prose and style but I'm having a hard time getting into anything that's happening in the story. Is there a hook further on or is it never going to grab me if it hasn't yet? I really liked Daedalus on the beach so if it gets really abstract again I might enjoy it more. I've liked Daedalus' scenes a lot more in general and it's been a long stretch of Bloom with the funeral and leaving the newspaper office so maybe once there's more D I'll enjoy it more.
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the_homemaster posted:See: A Confederacy of Dunces Or don't.
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