- Fluffy Chainsaw
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I'm likely a pissant middle manager who pisses off IT with worthless requests. There is no content within my posts other than a garbage act akin to a know-it-all, which likely is how I behave in real life. It's really hard for me to comprehend how much I am hated by everyone.
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Elizabeth May is to stay on as Green Party leader. Conspicuously missing from her statement is any reference to the environment. Apparently Trudeau's wholesale adoption of the CPC's climate targets was sufficient to stop global warming for once and for all. Problem solved!
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- Constant Hamprince
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- Mameluke
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But who else will fight for universal magic crystal care?
And what about our independent 9/11 inquiry?
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Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
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I used to be a big Hip fan, and Bobcaygeon/Fireworks/Poets are basically peak Hip and incredibly overplayed. Phantom Power wasn't their greatest album by a long stretch, even if it's probably one of the more recognizable ones.
I prefer Little Bones and I felt that the live version we all just heard did it pretty great justice. Then again, I've heard the Hip live before so I have something to compare it to.
e: Late for the chat over rear end in a top hat Comedian vs. Disabled Child but did anyone bring up that it was basically a tortious interference/defamation suit at its core? The kid's a young but pro singer and the injurious comments are really specifically grounded in his ability to get work.
Then surely a defamation suit would've been a more appropriate avenue than a human rights tribunal pseudo-court.
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EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.
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Then surely a defamation suit would've been a more appropriate avenue than a human rights tribunal pseudo-court.
If it had happened in any other province it would have been a bog-standard defamation suit. I agree that probably should have been the proper way to go, but as it turns out, it's a hell of an interesting case with intersections between the Canadian and Quebec Charters.
In a similar vein to the TWU law school case, it really challenges us to take a hard look at competing Charter rights, and I'd say that is always a good thing.
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- DariusLikewise
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You wore that on Halloween?
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Doing something so Canadian right now I bet just looking at this picture drives some of you Canada hating urbanites insane.
http://i.imgur.com/C6b71bY.jpg
Is this up at the Pointe du Bois generating station? I'm pretty sure I've boated past that exact shoreline about 30 times this summer.
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- vincentpricesboner
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This (among so many other idiotic beliefs like homeopathy and other pseudoscience) is why no one takes the party seriously.
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Arabian nights
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I don't hate the band but their fans are the worst.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBeoJdzy8Zs
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You could apply this statement to almost any show played last night by any rock band that has more than 4 albums.
Even if you don't like the Tragically Hip, the meltdown over their show that a bunch of conservatives are having is delicious "TRUDEAU?!? 11 MILLION VIEWERS?!? IMPOSSIBLE!!!".
Wait what? Do you have a link? Conservative tears are always delicious.
Someone on YouTube came up with the best idea. They recorded the entire Hip concert and then re uploaded it to YouTube with a Heritage Moment frame around it for all three hours. Now THAT'S Canadian. And it's probably transformative enough to not get taken down!
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- Reince Penis
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Goddamnit Trudeau why can't you have better politics.
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This (among so many other idiotic beliefs like homeopathy and other pseudoscience) is why no one takes the party BC seriously.
FTFY
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Apropos of nothing in particular in this thread right now, here's another reminder of how lovely it is that we're selling weapons to Saudi Arabia.
The American Conservative posted:
In Response to Indiscriminate Saudi Bombing, MSF Evacuates Northern Yemen
By DANIEL LARISON • August 18, 2016, 3:12 PM
Things are getting even worse for the civilian population of Yemen as Doctors Without Borders (MSF) announces that it is pulling its staff and medical personnel out of northern Yemen following the latest bombing of one of their hospitals there earlier this week:
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Doctors Without Borders announced on Thursday that it’s withdrawing from northern Yemen due to what the international aid group called “indiscriminate bombings and unreliable reassurances” from the Saudi-led coalition that’s fighting Shiite rebels in the country.
The group, known by its French acronym MSF, said an attack on a hospital it supported in the area on Monday had killed 19 people and wounded 24 — a higher death toll after some of the wounded had died. Earlier, 11 were reported killed.
“The airstrike on Abs Hospital was the fourth and the deadliest attack on an MSF-supported medical facility during this war, while there have been numerous attacks on other health facilities all over Yemen,” the Geneva-based group said in a statement.
This is another devastating blow to the people living in northern Yemen. Not only have the Saudis and their allies grossly and repeatedly violated international law with their bombing of civilian targets for well over a year, but they have struck so many hospitals that they are now forcing a major aid group out of the area. That deprives injured and sick Yemenis of essential medical care that is made all the more necessary by the frequent indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas by the coalition, and it further cuts off this part of Yemen from an outside world that was already mostly ignoring its plight. The next time that the Saudis bomb a school or a residence or a factory or some other building filled with noncombatants in this part of the country, the wounded won’t be able to rely on MSF’s help. It needs to be stressed that this is not MSF’s fault. The blame lies squarely with Riyadh, its allies, and its Western patrons that have committed and enabled the crimes that prompted this decision. Doctors Without Borders were put in an impossible situation by the reckless and criminal behavior of the Saudi-led coalition, and have understandably refused to wait around for the next “accidental” bombing of one of their facilities.
Trevor Timm excoriates the administration for its role in making the Saudi-led bombing campaign possible:
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The fact that the Obama administration has allowed the Saudis to continue committing war crimes should be a full-fledged scandal. Officials should be resigning over this and shouting from the rooftops. Instead, for months, we’ve heard almost nothing from the administration beyond a couple boilerplate, lukewarm expressions of “concern” as the death toll has mounted over a year and a half. Finally, after prodding from reporters last week, the US state department condemned the bombing of a Doctors Without Borders (AKA Médecins sans Frontières) hospital that killed at least 15 people. But then, the state department spokesman refused to say whether the US would stop supplying the Saudis with the weapons they are using.
Perhaps MSF’s decision will draw more attention to the catastrophe unfolding in Yemen, and perhaps that will prompt more criticism of the administration’s indefensible policy of support for this war. I hope that is the case, but in the meantime the people of Yemen, and especially northern Yemen, are in even greater danger than before.
Pink News posted:
Saudi Arabia: Push for gays to be executed because social media is ‘making too many homosexuals’
Nick Duffy 31st March 2016, 11:43 AM
newspaper in Saudi Arabia has reported that prosecutors in the country are pushing to enforce the death penalty for homosexuality – because social media is turning people gay.
It is often difficult to confirm data about gay people charged under Saudi Arabia’s justice system, as consensual homosexual acts are often legally indistinguishable from rape or paedophilia under the country’s laws.
But Okaz, a daily newspaper located in Jeddah, reports that as many as 35 cases have been brought against gay men for ‘obscene’ behaviour in the past six months, while the state is also pursuing a number of alleged ‘cross-dressers’.
The Washington Blade reports that prosecutors in the cases are pushing for harsher penalties including the death penalty for people convicted of homosexual crimes, in particular due to fears surrounding social media.
Okaz reports that there has been a surge in “abnormal behaviour” due to the boom in internet use, and that people are becoming “increasingly bold” about their so-called abnormalities.
A spokesperson for the US State Department’s Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor told the Washington Blade that it is “aware of these reports, but cannot verify their accuracy, adding: “We continue to gather more information.”
Amid the surge in cases, a man in Saudi Arabia was arrested for flying the rainbow flag at his home.
The doctor, who lives in Jeddah, apparently didn’t know the flag represented LGBT+ pride.
He says he bought the flag online after one of his children said they liked the “pretty” design.
And just a timely reminder
And if you really want some fun then read his HRW report on how domestic workers are basically slaves. You need your employer to sign off on your exit visa to even leave the country. Or check out this interview (it's in German but google does a servicable translation) of German ambulance workers who operated in Saudi Arabia for a while:
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SPIEGEL ONLINE: Was it clear what you're getting into when you go to Saudi Arabia?
Bauer: Not that it comes so crass. I do not regret that I took this job. But with the knowledge of today, I would not go again to Saudi Arabia. This includes how to deal with foreign workers there.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: What did you see?
Bauer: construction sites, for example, where workers from Bangladesh living. Under worst conditions, up to thirty men in a kind of sea containers. It was often so that you get an immediate application in the morning was: unconscious person in the industrial area. Then it was clear there is one, overnight died of thirst, starving. Often I went also to missions where Filipinas had jumped out of the window.
About eight million migrants are to a report by the International Trade Union Confederation ITUC legally employed in Saudi Arabia, nearly a third of people in the country are foreigners. Again and again there are reports about the miserable conditions in which the guest workers live. So called the ITUC report "extreme cases of violence, intimidation, imprisonment and threat"; Moreover, many migrants were forced to toil from dawn to dusk without a break.
Background is the so-called kafala system , in which each guest worker has a guarantor, usually the employer. "Once these people are in the country they are delivered to him," says Rothna Begum. "Without the consent of the employer they can not change their job and not leave the country." Of particular concern is the situation of the 1.5 million women who work as domestic workers in Saudi Arabia and most of the Philippines, Indonesia and Sri Lanka submitted. From "virtual slavery" says a Filipino Parliament Committee on the needs of migrant workers overseas.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: What were the women?
Bauer: Mostly housemaids, who are recruited abroad. Come in Saudi Arabia, you take them off the pass. If they are lucky, they catch an employer who pays them as agreed. If they are unlucky, the host requires additional services.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: That is?
Farmer: Many foreigners who work as Nanny are raped by the sons or hosts. Once I drove an Ethiopian who was able to walk before pain hardly. At the clinic, I have described the facts of a doctor. She said bad, but you can not do anything. If we now turn the police, this woman goes to jail.
There are no concrete figures on how many domestic workers are abused or raped in Saudi Arabia. In a HRW report from 2008 , however, it is, of 86 women interviewed had complained 28 about sexual assault. "Typically, employers or male family members are the perpetrators," the authors write. And going to the police car in Saudi Arabia, very few victims. Who indicating a rape, are by dortigem understanding automatically to having had extramarital sex - a grave offense. Only those who can prove that actually a rape has occurred, escapes punishment. "And this evidence is incredibly difficult," says Begum.
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If we're going to post that image, it should really be as part of this tweet.
https://twitter.com/gmbutts/status/558031167837179906
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Vice has also done some good mini-documentaries on the effects of Saudi bombing in Yemen, they're depressing as gently caress and aired around the time the news about Canada's Saudi arms deal broke, combining to turn me into an avid Trudea hater rather than just a passively unhappy social democrat.
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You socialists are just salty and whiny that you lost. I, for one, am cautiously optimistic about ongoing conflict in the middle east
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Do you guys even understand the repercussions of breaking the terms of a contract? Also ask those people in Kitchener will be out of a job
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- Reince Penis
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If Trudeau was smart, he'd cancel the Saudi arms deal and use that as a springboard to approving Canadian pipelines.
Hell, if Harper was smart he would've done the same thing.
It seems like an easy way to get a plurality of Canadians to wag their finger and tell leftists they can't have it both ways.
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Hal Johnson is cool and good, not including Joanne McLeod is sexist and problematic.
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If Trudeau was smart, he'd cancel the Saudi arms deal and use that as a springboard to approving Canadian pipelines.
Actually if he was smart he would cancel both because both are terrible ideas
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Trudeau doesn't have to be smart, he can just show up to a concert for a famous Canadian band, wearing that band's t-shirts. All Canadians will wake up the next day dazed, a permanent image of his trademark smile burned into their brains, unable to remember any political decisions he's made up to this point in time.
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Actually if he was smart he would cancel both because both are terrible ideas
Well yes obviously.
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yeah yeah trudeau sold weapons to a brutal militaristic regime that bombs hospitals and executes gay people, but did you see how cool he looked at Pride?
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besides, think of how harshly the world would react to our refusal to sell weapons to north korea's greatest competitor for the bottom place on human rights indicators. i mean if we're willing to back out of a deal when a regime brutally bombs civilian infrastructure without the slightest bit of a legal pretext, what won't we cancel????
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look there might have been terrorists in that hospital. the only way to eradicate terror is through indiscriminate bombings of suspected hideouts
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If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.
There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.
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Trudeau doesn't have to be smart, he can just show up to a concert for a famous Canadian band, wearing that band's t-shirts.
I hope he attends a memorial for Dave Brockie, late of GWAR. Dave's from Ottawa, it counts.
Really, I want trudeau in a torn black t-shirt, talking about how meaningful Meat Sandwich is to him, then hugging it out with Sexecutioner and decapitating an effigy of Harper after fellating literally a huge foam penis.
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On the more general topic of western countries backing Saudi Arabia's efforts in the region, I thought this news story was pretty telling of the horrible grand-strategy we're tagging along with.
The New York Times posted:
Saudi Arabia Kills Civilians, the U.S. Looks the Other Way
By SAMUEL OAKFORDAUG. 19, 2016
In the span of four days earlier this month, the Saudi Arabia-led coalition in Yemen bombed a Doctors Without Borders-supported hospital, killing 19 people; a school, where 10 children, some as young as 8, died; and a vital bridge over which United Nations food supplies traveled, punishing millions.
In a war that has seen reports of human rights violations committed by every side, these three attacks stand out. But the Obama administration says these strikes, like previous ones that killed thousands of civilians since last March, will have no effect on the American support that is crucial for Saudi Arabia’s air war.
On the night of Aug. 11, coalition warplanes bombed the main bridge on the road from Hodeidah, along the Red Sea coast, to Sana, the capital. When it didn’t fully collapse, they returned the next day to destroy the bridge.
More than 14 million Yemenis suffer dangerous levels of food insecurity — a figure that dwarfs that of any other country in conflict, worsened by a Saudi-led and American-supported blockade. One in three children under the age of 5 reportedly suffers from acute malnutrition. An estimated 90 percent of food that the United Nation’s World Food Program transports to Sana traveled across the destroyed bridge.
An Obama administration official told me on the condition of anonymity that the United States included the bridge on a no-strike list of vital infrastructure, explicitly informing the Saudis that it was “critical to responding to the humanitarian crisis in Yemen.” And yet the Saudi-led coalition obliterated the structure, either intentionally disregarding humanitarian considerations and the wishes of the United States, or out of sheer incompetence.
On Aug. 14, coalition airstrikes hit the school in the Saada governorate, a stronghold of the Houthi rebels. Saudi officials said the Houthis were running a training facility there for child soldiers. The United Nations’ child welfare agency said it was a religious school.
A day later, warplanes attacked the hospital supported by Doctors Without Borders, or M.S.F., for its French name, Médecins Sans Frontières. It was the fourth coalition attack on a facility of the doctors’ group since October. At least 19 people were killed, including an M.S.F. staffer.
M.S.F. said its hospitals’ coordinates had been shared with all parties to the conflict, including the Saudis. The hospital should have already been on no-strike lists that the United States and Saudi Arabia insist the coalition maintains.
The American assistance for Saudi Arabia that Mr. Obama authorized last March includes aerial refueling for coalition jets, intelligence and targeting assistance. American tankers offload fuel to any coalition jet, no matter its target. This support comes on top of more than $100 billion in arms deals with Saudi Arabia between 2010 and 2015, and recent deals made explicitly to “replenish” stockpiles spent in Yemen.
At the United Nations, Saudi Arabia and its allies have blocked investigations into the Yemen conflict and complained when the Security Council considered a resolution aimed at protecting Yemeni civilians. Saudi Arabia has also warned aid workers to leave much of Yemen, ominously presaging M.S.F.’s Aug. 18 decision to pull out of two governorates in the country’s north because of the coalition’s “indiscriminate bombings.” Without the group’s presence, it will be more difficult to know the toll of future strikes in these areas.
In June, Saudi Arabia threatened to cut its funding to the United Nations after Secretary General Ban Ki-moon included the coalition on a list of violators of children’s rights. While criticizing the Saudis for their bullying, Mr. Ban’s office has also been accommodating out of a belief that it can’t afford to lose Saudi money.
The Saudis are not the only negative force in Yemen. The Houthis and their allies loyal to former President Ali Abdullah Saleh have waged a cynical war, and are responsible for human rights violations. But it is difficult to see what possible progress can be made when Saudi Arabia routinely bombs civilian sites.
Many in Washington see support for the Saudi-led coalition as necessary for maintaining American-Saudi relations after the nuclear deal with Iran last year. Saudi Arabia has used this leeway to carry out its Yemen campaign with abandon. Each fatal strike and subsequent implausible Saudi denial should test the limits of the Obama administration’s support.
Instead, a spokesman for United States Central Command, which oversees American operations in the Middle East including support for the coalition, told me last week that the United States is not conducting a single investigation into civilian casualties in Yemen.
The recent uptick in airstrikes and fighting across Yemen follows the collapse of United Nations-brokered peace talks that were being held in Kuwait. The possibility of a resumption of full-scale war and all the suffering that accompanies it could have been an opportunity for the Obama administration to reflect on its axiomatic support for the Saudi coalition. But even after last week’s string of outrageous bombings, the White House has still not done that.
The Obama administration has in recent days insisted that it wants all sides in Yemen’s war to stop fighting. But as American tankers wait to refuel American-made fighter jets, loaded with American-made bombs destined for Yemen, the White House evidently doesn’t realize that it is waging a war.
As The American Conservative comments:
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One of the more striking details in the op-ed is that the administration specifically told the Saudis not to bomb the bridge that connected Hodeidah and Sanaa, but the Saudis did it anyway. They have since bombed other bridges on the same route. Destroying the bridge has made the already very severe humanitarian crisis even worse:
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More than 14 million Yemenis suffer dangerous levels of food insecurity — a figure that dwarfs that of any other country in conflict, worsened by a Saudi-led and American-supported blockade. One in three children under the age of 5 reportedly suffers from acute malnutrition. An estimated 90 percent of food that the United Nation’s World Food Program transports to Sana traveled across the destroyed bridge [bold mine-DL].
This is one of the dangers of reflexively and uncritically backing irresponsible clients: it implicates the U.S. in whatever the clients do with our government’s assistance and forfeits any chance of reining the clients in when they commit excesses and crimes. The clients are also more likely to commit crimes when they assume they have carte blanche from Washington. When the purpose of the entire exercise is to “reassure” the clients for reassurance’s sake, the U.S. has already handcuffed itself to the coalition and made itself a prisoner of their war. It puts the patron in the bizarre position of trying to curry favor with its clients, and it allows the clients to take as much as they can get while always claiming to be unsatisfied and neglected. When indulging their destructive policy is the only discernible goal of U.S. support, it seems that there is nothing that the Saudis and their allies can do to jeopardize our government’s backing.
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Trudeau could cancel the Saudi Arms deal and placate the weapons manufacturers by declaring war on Saudi Arabia instead.
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Instead of the doof warrior, gord downie can get on a flamethrower guitar and lead brave Canadians in a crusade against the Saudis
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Cancel the sale, buy them for the Canadian forces instead.
Everyone is a winner.
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NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
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Is this up at the Pointe du Bois generating station? I'm pretty sure I've boated past that exact shoreline about 30 times this summer.
Seven Sisters just down river.
Also I'd be tempted to enlist if we declared war on Saudi Arabia as long as the Americans didn't side with the Saudis.
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I hope he attends a memorial for Dave Brockie, late of GWAR. Dave's from Ottawa, it counts.
Really, I want trudeau in a torn black t-shirt, talking about how meaningful Meat Sandwich is to him, then hugging it out with Sexecutioner and decapitating an effigy of Harper after fellating literally a huge foam penis.
You know that would make him PM forever.
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if one of your favorite songs isn't Bobcaygeon. Like ... what the gently caress??
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