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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/DaneCook/status/767736086298779648 The first time something Dane Cook said has ended in a laugh.
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AlouetteNR posted:Oh goddamnit, is today the day I find out Will Smith is actually a terrible person? He's a secret scientologist.
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nutranurse posted:grandma couldnt vote till she became a citizen in her early 60s. Yes because your grandmas situation and mine are exactly the same. You can't be serious about that point. Meeting those people =\= actually being those people. I'm guessing since I lived in Senegal for a year that means I get to speak on all of their experiences then! Also unless you have a time machine, how do you supposed to experience the totality of black experience in America? Curating an exhibit doesn't equal being raised with the people who lived what it was about.
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I love that every time an argument like this happens the final resting place is basically "well my situation isn't specifically yours so you can't possibly understand." Although this one has the lovely epilogue of also getting called racist.
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Aug 22, 2016 19:09
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gfsincere posted:Meeting those people =\= actually being those people. No true blacksman.
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Dexo posted:
It's this. I want to dismantle white supremacy. There are times, even days or weeks I'm so angry that I can't even begin to convey here on a forum. But I use it to make a positive change. Yeah sometimes I go off, call people crackers and uncle toms and poo poo but that poor impulse control and something I'm dealing with in therapy. And it helps. White supremacy deserves to be smashed. I'm cool with bashing active/violent fascists too. But you need to control your anger and only use violence when it's appropriate. You also need to stop claiming things that aren't true, because as I said before, posting fallacies only demeans and overshadows all the other atrocities that have been and are continuing to be done to us.
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AlouetteNR posted:Oh goddamnit, is today the day I find out Will Smith is actually a terrible person? I wouldn't say bad person, just not quite as good as people tend to paint him as.
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I'm praying for Trump to gently caress up again because jesus christ, this thread
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RiotGearEpsilon posted:I'm praying for Trump to gently caress up again because jesus christ, this thread At least he's still doing Really lovely. 
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RiotGearEpsilon posted:I'm praying for Trump to gently caress up again because jesus christ, this thread
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Aug 22, 2016 19:11
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When did US Politics become about slavery? I don't understand how Hillary still has emails leaking out of everywhere. Does the FBI Director have something against her or something?
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Haha "control your anger," where have I heard that beforegfsincere posted:There is so much anti-black propaganda put out by white America to the rest of the world that it's insane, and you don't really notice it until you leave this country and see that black Americans are only portrayed one way. "Blacks were bred to have super-strength and agility" is a good example of that propaganda.
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A play in three acts. https://twitter.com/Zac_Penton/status/738868491688644608 https://twitter.com/Zac_Penton/status/766855751570628608 https://twitter.com/abc15/status/767723858296238080
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Aug 22, 2016 19:11
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Meh, I think this conversation is pretty interesting even if I don't necessarily agree with his whole view on things.
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Aug 22, 2016 19:11
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MattD1zzl3 posted:
The river caught fire at least 13 times. The Times' photograph was of a river fire, not a boat fire, but it was the '52 river fire not the '69 river fire.
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gfsincere posted:Meeting those people =\= actually being those people. I'm guessing since I lived in Senegal for a year that means I get to speak on all of their experiences then! I find it odd that you accuse someone of not being able to speak of a community's experiences and opinions, and simultaneously claim to have a total and encyclopedic knowledge of what blacks from other countries think of african americans.
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nutranurse posted:I am black in america. Oh my gosh! I'm so sorry! I must have misread your posts (I'm a little sick, it's hard to concentrate) I thought you were a Chinese immigrant for some reason, haha. 
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nutranurse posted:Like a lot of anamosity does exist between the various black immigrant communities and the various afam communities. Those divides are unavoidable since black people are not a monolith. But at the same time if we look at it on a generational level a lot of that animosity's being eroded by pan-black movements across the country because, despite whatever you may think, most black immigrants realize they'll be shot dead by cops as readily as black people whose families have been here for centuries. The last part is false, especially among the children of African immigrants in corporate America, especially if they went to a PWI. But come on over for a beer sometime and we can chat it up in person.
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gfsincere posted:Wait, what's so bad about OTP? My family lives in Austell. It seems like a nice area. otp is bad georgia. we stay inside the moat. ESPECIALLY cobb loving county
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Dexo posted:Meh, I think this conversation is pretty interesting even if I don't necessarily agree with his whole view on things.
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sarmhan posted:I had to look this up but yes. Apparently cotton production increased by about 25 times between 1791 and 1801 because of the cotton gin's invention in 1793. Also, here's another really good reason why selective breeding didn't have any effect on the final gene pool of African Americans (from the wiki article on the cotton gin): quote:The number of slaves rose in concert with the increase in cotton production, increasing from around 700,000 in 1790 to around 3.2 million in 1850. There's simply not enough time.
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fits my needs posted:When did US Politics become about slavery? about 1776 or so
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gfsincere posted:Meeting those people =\= actually being those people. I'm guessing since I lived in Senegal for a year that means I get to speak on all of their experiences then! Dude, you've never lived through the civil rights era so by your logic you can't possible understand what that's all about. So either shut up, accept no one ever but 1st hand accounts should speak about something, we can be done with this conversation and all conversations while we are at it, or you can stop being a disingenuous little poo poo and realize human beings, even us black immigrant ones, are capable of empathy and have imaginations. Yes, curating an exhibit really does equal being raised with people who lived what it was about to some extent. What would you have got that I didn't? Detailed meandering stories? Check. Love and appreciation for those whose shoulders you stand on? Check. Beatings? loving check--david c driskell slapped me upside my head once and goddamnit that is an honor.
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I can't wait for October when Clinton gets swiftboated by a bunch of angry white women claiming that they personally saw her vivisect a baby or something. Or hahaha they'll claim that she slept with a black guy, and that'll be a huge scandal to the republicans but everyone else will be like "so?" e: jesus christ thread what the gently caress is this, we had nice food chat last night and the self-hating british guy kept making ironic remarks, and then you ruined that with this?
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zoux posted:A play in three acts. Well, that's succinct
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theflyingorc posted:Also, here's another really good reason why selective breeding didn't have any effect on the final gene pool of African Americans (from the wiki article on the cotton gin):
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zoux posted:A play in three acts.  That reads like satire.
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I'm Zac (unicode hammer and sickle)
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Rollofthedice posted:I find it odd that you accuse someone of not being able to speak of a community's experiences and opinions, and simultaneously claim to have a total and encyclopedic knowledge of what blacks from other countries think of african americans. Once again, I've lived in those other countries and had so so many conversations about the differences in the black experience, both here and abroad. Hell, Nigerians don't like other Nigerians from different tribes and have different experiences even though they are from the same city in the same country.
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nutranurse posted:Dude, you've never lived through the civil rights era so by your logic you can't possible understand what that's all about. oh speaking of John Lewis is rumored to be doing a meet & greet at manny's next saturday
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QuarkJets posted:e: jesus christ thread what the gently caress is this, we had nice food chat last night and the self-hating british guy kept making ironic remarks, and then you ruined that with this? Thankfully we can now meander into gunchat.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:about 1776 or so We have a President of the United States, the most powerful man in the world, who is black. There hasn't been an Asian American or Latino American that has been even close to that kind of position. As one of those minorities I don't know what all he bellyaching is about really.
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gfsincere posted:The last part is false, especially among the children of African immigrants in corporate America, especially if they went to a PWI. It's not, but please keep using your poo poo experiences with the children of african immigrants in corporate america (gee that must be a huge demographic) to lambaste everyone else. I don't meet goons.
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zoux posted:A play in three acts. Oh God, I laughed.
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zoux posted:A play in three acts. You rat bastard I came here to make this identical word-for-word post
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gfsincere posted:Once again, I've lived in those other countries and had so so many conversations about the differences in the black experience, both here and abroad. Hell, Nigerians don't like other Nigerians from different tribes and have different experiences even though they are from the same city in the same country. Meeting those people =\= actually being those people
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gfsincere posted:Once again, I've lived in those other countries and had so so many conversations about the differences in the black experience, both here and abroad. Hell, Nigerians don't like other Nigerians from different tribes and have different experiences even though they are from the same city in the same country. gfsincere posted:You can't be serious about that point.
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sarmhan posted:Yep. This is what I was getting at when I said the timescale was all wrong. Yeah, you were right, but I thought you were talking about 12-13 generations, but it's important to note that for like half the slave population, it was literally 1 or 2 generations. It's even crazier than it sounds at first glance
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Dexo posted:Meh, I think this conversation is pretty interesting even if I don't necessarily agree with his whole view on things. The best arguments against slavery eugenics doing anything are a) the ridiculously awful amount of raping of slaves by white people that went on continuously the whole time, and b) the constant influx of new slaves from Africa being thrown into the mix. Any selective breeding program that did exist would be completely derailed by those things (and neither of those things paint white slavers in a more flattering light...) Also, "genetic fitness" is really a moving target. The slave populations were spread out over a huge area with different climates, different types of forced labor, different indigenous diseases, and so on. It's not like descendants of slaves fit one physical template, either; stupid white people aside African-Americans are diverse as all hell in height, build, appearance, and so on.
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gfsincere posted:The last part is false, especially among the children of African immigrants in corporate America, especially if they went to a PWI. I cannot shake the feeling that you are unwilling to consider that african immigrants have eyes, and ears, and stay abreast of the news, and have the brains to comprehend that skin color is more of a determiner of their likelihood to get murdered by white people in America than any country of origin.
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