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Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004

gfsincere posted:

Neither is presuming one is a homophobe when they used cockholster as a in word replacement. I could possibly see your point if I switched out cockholster with mouth and it was still gave off homophobic vibes, but considering it didn't, hard pass.

Man, even after pretending to apologize you still can't admit you were wrong.

sudo rm -rf posted:

that custom title is absolute garbage and whoever bought it is a shithead

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Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Nevvy Z posted:

You used a homophobic slur and you once again start writhing furiously to not have been wrong. All you do is twist and twist to maintain a status of 'not wrong'. You are like a white person trying to justify something racist they said.

GFsincere is basically the black donald trump.

Oh come the gently caress on. That dude isn't the Black Donald Trump.

That is offensive as poo poo on so many levels


Donald Trump has legit done terrible poo poo. Stuff that gets like no loving play when compared to his oh so funny gaffes and dumb mistakes with words. Read up about the Central Park 5, or how his businesses have constantly discriminated against black people.

So gently caress off with that comparison.

Chelb
Oct 24, 2010

I'm gonna show SA-kun my shitposting!

gfsincere posted:

Neither is presuming one is a homophobe when they used cockholster as a in word replacement. I could possibly see your point if I switched out cockholster with mouth and it was still gave off homophobic vibes, but considering it didn't, hard pass.

Especially since I watched you happily skip over racist posts and watched you do it in the past, so you can miss me with your poo poo on this day.

"Man look at the words coming out of this guy's human being hole"

SoSimpleABeginning
Mar 6, 2010

From so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved.
The Great Twist

zoux posted:

Gonna need to see this confirmed....but how

Update my profile page on my University website and PM it to you?

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug

SoSimpleABeginning posted:

I'm a PhD Candidate in a subfield of Human Evolutionary Biology. Science Twitter just went through this argument with a PopSci writer who wrote a poorly researched article claiming racial superiority in athletics. Specifically, he claimed that West Africans (and the descendants of West African slaves in the Americas) dominate sprinting events, while East Africans dominate distance events due to genetics. The below Tweets from a well-respected population geneticist outline the problems with this argument:

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767448701111369728

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767448871484137472

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767449033627623425

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767451293816352768

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767451734579015682

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767451891290734592

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767452126872207360

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767452262872522752

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767453846780178432

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767497486378397696

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767624521859948544

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767624640638382081

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767624831521198080

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767624992326647811

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767625101286182916

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767625295985860608

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767625471722913792

twitter is a disgustingly bad medium for any kind of worthwhile communication and i'm angry it's the standard

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Nevvy Z posted:

GFsincere is basically the black donald trump.

Come the gently caress on. I disagree with gfsincere on some poo poo, and think he's out of line sometimes but this is ridiculous

negromancer
Aug 20, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

RiotGearEpsilon posted:

Hey: Thank you. I appreciate this.

No problem.

None of my gay friends ever corrected me on it, but I'm a firm believer of if someone says something is problematic, believe them. DOn't wait for a consensus on things before they are "offensive".

So if I offended you, my bad. That's on me.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Rollofthedice posted:

"Man look at the words coming out of this guy's human being hole"

"i dont think women are bad or anything, but you need to go make me a sandwich"

Sharkie
Feb 4, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

gfsincere posted:

tell me when I said he was a bad person for sucking dick else go gently caress yourself.

You're asking me to explain how "your mouth is a thing that exists to suck dick" is an insult? In this culture? With many people telling you it's a homophobic insult?

You already kind of apologized and said you'd refrain from using it, and that was nice, yet here you go again.

gfsincere posted:

None of my gay friends ever corrected me on it, but I'm a firm believer of if someone says something is problematic, believe them.

This is good and you should try putting it into practice, instead of "Prove [slur] is a bad thing or go gently caress yourself"

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

gfsincere posted:

Neither is presuming one is a homophobe when they used cockholster as a in word replacement. I could possibly see your point if I switched out cockholster with mouth and it was still gave off homophobic vibes, but considering it didn't, hard pass.

Especially since I watched you happily skip over racist posts and watched you do it in the past, so you can miss me with your poo poo on this day.

All I asked you to do was not use the phrase again, and pointed out it was a homophobic slur. I am not sure what the rest of your railing is about though.

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004

Dexo posted:

That is offensive as poo poo on so many levels
Donald Trump has legit done terrible poo poo. Stuff that gets like no loving play when compared to his oh so funny gaffes and dumb mistakes with words. Read up about the Central Park 5, or how his businesses have constantly discriminated against black people.

You are right. I wasn't thinking about the specific negative history of Trump with black people, as I am white. I rescind.

I just couldn't think of anyone else who twists so fervently to maintain his 'rightness' while still saying "I guess I won't say that anymore"

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.

zoux posted:

Gonna need to see this confirmed....but how

Okay, I just finished reading the last 10 pages, and I just want to post a picture of my hands inside of these terrible white paper lunch bags my wife purchased.

Also, whoever purchased the custom title is pretty lovely.

negromancer
Aug 20, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

Koalas March posted:

Come the gently caress on. I disagree with gfsincere on some poo poo, and think he's out of line sometimes but this is ridiculous

Reason #627242 you don't have these discussions in front of an audience.

poo poo like this ALWAYS HAPPENS.

I remember when this chat was up in arms because a BLM chapter didn't allow white people to come to specific meetings, and this thread is the perfect example.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

The real key to sports success is to be middle-to-upper-middle class. That is the group most over-represented in most sports because they have the mix of time, energy and capability to be a sports star while it also remains one of the more appealing career paths. Middle-to-upper class people of all types are underrepresented in sports. Even the NBA which has a reputation for being a step-up for lower-class inner-city kids is predominantly middle/upper-middle class. The numbers I remember offhand are something like 30% of black players and less than 5% of white players are from low-income and dropping by the year.

It's also unfortunate that we keep viewing sports as a leg up for the lower class because it unfortunately is only a few rare success stories who manage to hit that for obvious reasons. When you can't afford good food or exercise and live in a lovely part of the city it's a lot harder to put in the time and effort necessary to become a success. :smith:

Chelb
Oct 24, 2010

I'm gonna show SA-kun my shitposting!

gfsincere posted:

None of my gay friends ever corrected me on it, but I'm a firm believer of if someone says something is problematic, believe them. DOn't wait for a consensus on things before they are "offensive".

oh my loving god

negromancer
Aug 20, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

SoSimpleABeginning posted:

I'm a PhD Candidate in a subfield of Human Evolutionary Biology. Science Twitter just went through this argument with a PopSci writer who wrote a poorly researched article claiming racial superiority in athletics. Specifically, he claimed that West Africans (and the descendants of West African slaves in the Americas) dominate sprinting events, while East Africans dominate distance events due to genetics. The below Tweets from a well-respected population geneticist outline the problems with this argument:

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767448701111369728

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767448871484137472

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767449033627623425

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767451293816352768

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767451734579015682

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767451891290734592

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767452126872207360

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767452262872522752

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767453846780178432

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767497486378397696

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767624521859948544

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767624640638382081

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767624831521198080

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767624992326647811

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767625101286182916

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767625295985860608

https://twitter.com/ewanbirney/status/767625471722913792

Dope! Thanks for this!

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
SHAVE ME FROM MY SHELF

gfsincere posted:

None of my gay friends ever corrected me on it, but I'm a firm believer of if someone says something is problematic, believe them. DOn't wait for a consensus on things before they are "offensive".

Well, y'know, cultures vary. Some non-heterosexual or non-cisgendered people get pissed as hell if you use the word 'queer', others get pissed as hell if you don't. No language is completely safe; all we can do is be responsive.

Again, I urge you to stop trying to fist-fight the whole thread.

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004

gfsincere posted:

Reason #627242 you don't have these discussions in front of an audience.

poo poo like this ALWAYS HAPPENS.

I remember when this chat was up in arms because a BLM chapter didn't allow white people to come to specific meetings, and this thread is the perfect example.

Boohoo you poor thing.

negromancer
Aug 20, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

Sharkie posted:

You're asking me to explain how "your mouth is a thing that exists to suck dick" is an insult? In this culture? With many people telling you it's a homophobic insult?

You already kind of apologized and said you'd refrain from using it, and that was nice, yet here you go again.


This is good and you should try putting it into practice, instead of "Prove [slur] is a bad thing or go gently caress yourself"

I said prove I meant it with the intention of being homophobic.

Either do that or you can gladly shut the gently caress up as well.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

gfsincere posted:

Reason #627242 you don't have these discussions in front of an audience.

poo poo like this ALWAYS HAPPENS.

I remember when this chat was up in arms because a BLM chapter didn't allow white people to come to specific meetings, and this thread is the perfect example.

It's an internet comedy forum. The stakes are very low. Your rules suck and are regressive.

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004

gfsincere posted:

I said prove I meant it with the intention of being homophobic.

Either do that or you can gladly shut the gently caress up as well.

Your intent doesn't matter. If I called you "my n***a" right now as a white man would you give a gently caress about my intent?
They don't have to be the same level of slur for this analogy to work.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

gfsincere posted:

I said prove I meant it with the intention of being homophobic.

Either do that or you can gladly shut the gently caress up as well.

... You of all people are going with the "intent is the only thing that matters" argument?

Aves Maria!
Jul 26, 2008

Maybe I'll drown
Both gfsincere's posting and the title + DT comparisons are lame, that's my opinion for today.

D O R K Y
Sep 1, 2001

quote:

I said prove I meant it with the intention of being racist.

Either do that or you can gladly shut the gently caress up as well.

False equivalency and all that, but I can't take any of these arguments seriously when they sound so absurd on their face with a simple word replace.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

gfsincere posted:

I said prove I meant it with the intention of being homophobic.

Either do that or you can gladly shut the gently caress up as well.

hey, neato, the guy who was calling everyone who disagreed with him a racist is demanding that people give him the benefit of the doubt when using a homophobic slur

Chelb
Oct 24, 2010

I'm gonna show SA-kun my shitposting!
gfsincere: noted believer of people that say something is problematic

negromancer
Aug 20, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

All I asked you to do was not use the phrase again, and pointed out it was a homophobic slur. I am not sure what the rest of your railing is about though.

It's self-explanatory, but let's all play dumb today.

negromancer
Aug 20, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

Sword of Chomsky posted:

Okay, I just finished reading the last 10 pages, and I just want to post a picture of my hands inside of these terrible white paper lunch bags my wife purchased.

Also, whoever purchased the custom title is pretty lovely.

I have no doubt it was the same guy who said I was the reason All Lives Matter exists.

Of course the person responsible won't own it.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
SHAVE ME FROM MY SHELF
Thanks to whoever replaced gfsincere's extremely hosed up redtext title with something way less hosed up

sudo rm -rf
Aug 2, 2011


$ mv fullcommunism.sh
/america
$ cd /america
$ ./fullcommunism.sh


gfsincere posted:

Neither is presuming one is a homophobe when they used cockholster as a in word replacement. I could possibly see your point if I switched out cockholster with mouth and it was still gave off homophobic vibes, but considering it didn't, hard pass.

Especially since I watched you happily skip over racist posts and watched you do it in the past, so you can miss me with your poo poo on this day.

i think the worst part of these conversations are how everyone assumes the worst of each other - that everyone you're arguing with is acting in bad faith and the only possible response is fight fire with fire.

real talk look how your request in this quote - your desire to not be seen or assumed to be a homophobe, even after saying something problematic. contrast this with you presuming individuals ganging up on you on something (like say, being wrong about the scientific validity of eugenics and whether or not the 'genetics of slavery' would have an affect on modern athletes) are acting on racism, or have 'sheets in the closet'.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

gfsincere posted:

It's self-explanatory, but let's all play dumb today.

I honestly hope that's what you're doing

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

RiotGearEpsilon posted:

Thanks to whoever replaced gfsincere's extremely hosed up redtext title with something way less hosed up

lol there was actually two rapid-fire

radical meme
Apr 17, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Who do I complain to about gfsincere's new red text? He already admitted he's not from the South so he's not a product of his massa race breeding program.

edit: loving beaten, name changed between me typing and posting

radical meme fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Aug 22, 2016

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
SHAVE ME FROM MY SHELF

Guy A. Person posted:

lol there was actually two rapid-fire

what was the first one

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
Where am I supposed to keep my sheets?

berserker
Aug 17, 2003

My love for you
is ticking clock

BROCK LESBIAN posted:

Post more bags.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gdAJefPME4

bowser
Apr 7, 2007

gfsincere is being a jerk but his new title is racist as gently caress and whoever bought it (white or black or whatever) should be ashamed.

Edit: It looks like someone changed it again. Thanks to whoever did that.

bowser fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Aug 22, 2016

negromancer
Aug 20, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

ImpAtom posted:

... You of all people are going with the "intent is the only thing that matters" argument?

Yeah, because when someone says "you're a homophobe for saying x and its the same as saying friend of the family" I don't take that person seriously AT ALL, because if they said that to a black gay person they would get laughed out of the room at best, and beat the gently caress up at worst.

There is no way on God's green earth that those 2 things are even on the same plane of existence.

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

RiotGearEpsilon posted:

what was the first one

Just a small plain text sentence about how the previous title was racist

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Chelb
Oct 24, 2010

I'm gonna show SA-kun my shitposting!

gfsincere posted:

Yeah, because when someone says "you're a homophobe for saying x and its the same as saying friend of the family" I don't take that person seriously AT ALL, because if they said that to a black gay person they would get laughed out of the room at best, and beat the gently caress up at worst.

There is no way on God's green earth that those 2 things are even on the same plane of existence.

nobody said thaaaaaaat

and also good job speaking for all gay black men everywheeeere

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