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ManMythLegend posted:lol those guys are bitches. I've done nothing but small boys, including the "smallest" ones. They're not floating nightmares unless they're in poor shape just like any other ship. Uh I'm a reservist so yes.... yes I do. But seriously the actual issue is harassment in tight quarters. Nobody deserves that no matter what your history. But hey, Navy!
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Null Integer posted:You told your daughter boat stories? By god man... The crazy poo poo. Like the 52 degree down angle, the guy that blew his head off, the guy that tore his thumb off with a co2 fire extinguisher, ect. Also she will be 18 this year 
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ded posted:The crazy poo poo. Like the 52 degree down angle, the guy that blew his head off, the guy that tore his thumb off with a co2 fire extinguisher, ect. One of these things is not like the others
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idk I always thought the pros of small boys outweighed the bad in comparison to an LHD or carrier but what do I know
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I enjoyed my time on both destroyers. One was all male. One was mixed. Both were great.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I enjoyed my time on both destroyers. One was all male. One was mixed. Both were great. I'm willing to bet the command climate makes the biggest difference, beyond type or class or hull or community or anything else. Not that I'm saying anything profound that nobody's noticed before.
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hogmartin posted:I'm willing to bet the command climate makes the biggest difference, beyond type or class or hull or community or anything else. Not that I'm saying anything profound that nobody's noticed before. True, though I've never seen a great command climate on an amphib.
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Is the weather in DC ever pleasant?
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Speaking of Gator Navy, here's a good article on LHA 6, the well deck less amphib https://news.usni.org/2016/08/17/21198_underway_uss_america Currently at the airport waiting to fly to South Carolina for the Navy IA Combat Training thing. Couldn't think of a better time to be in SC than August.
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Nick Soapdish posted:Speaking of Gator Navy, here's a good article on LHA 6, the well deck less amphib https://news.usni.org/2016/08/17/21198_underway_uss_america Really should just designate the things as LPH.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Really should just designate the things as LPH. Yeah but, we live in a post-fact based world where words have no meaning.
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LingcodKilla posted:Is the weather in DC ever pleasant? Spring and fall
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LingcodKilla posted:Is the weather in DC ever pleasant? You live in DC? I'm moving up there next weekend.
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hogmartin posted:I'm willing to bet the command climate makes the biggest difference, beyond type or class or hull or community or anything else. Not that I'm saying anything profound that nobody's noticed before. Command climate seems to be more negative when there's two O-6s at the top than when there's two O-5s.
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Analogical posted:You live in DC? I'm moving up there next weekend. I'm actually in Dam Neck for 4 months and just visiting DC on weekends because I'm old and I like museums. Always up for a lunch or such with other goons.
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Stultus Maximus posted:True, though I've never seen a great command climate on an amphib. My first skipper and ward room/chiefs mess on the New Orleans was great, but that was commissioning crew and they were all tired of the bullshit. It quickly went to poo poo after the CO left.
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Thronde posted:My first skipper and ward room/chiefs mess on the New Orleans was great, but that was commissioning crew and they were all tired of the bullshit. Man, I remember riding along as a staff puke on New Orleans while she was doing a SOUTHPAC friendship tour several years ago. All the wardroom JOs gave off a distinct life-hating vibe the entire time.
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I posted over on the resource mega-thread, but I was wondering if someone here might be able to help. I'm working on my motivational statement for an OCS application, but I wasn't sure how long it should be. The guys over on AirWarriors tend to say 400 words, but I noticed there is a poo poo ton of room on the APSR and some practice statements fill the whole page. My recruiter also mentioned to show as much experience as possible. Is there a recommended length, or should I just write till I feel satisfied and/or run out of room?
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Jimmy4400nav posted:I posted over on the resource mega-thread, but I was wondering if someone here might be able to help. I'm working on my motivational statement for an OCS application, but I wasn't sure how long it should be. The guys over on AirWarriors tend to say 400 words, but I noticed there is a poo poo ton of room on the APSR and some practice statements fill the whole page. My recruiter also mentioned to show as much experience as possible. Is there a recommended length, or should I just write till I feel satisfied and/or run out of room? I'll preface this with I Am Not A Recruiter, but I wouldn't worry about length. There are other parts of your application that detail your work and leadership experience; the personal statement is your chance to show aspects that aren't captured elsewhere. My advice would be to write something heartfelt, direct, and well-written. My personal statement was fairly simple and boiled down to "I think I'm pretty capable, and I think I would be a good asset to the Navy, please give me the chance to prove it." Some combination of that and my ASTB score seems to have worked, because it sure as poo poo wasn't an impressive college transcript. I've only poked around on Airwarriors occasionally, but it seems like a very lopsided sample, and I would take anything they say with a large grain of salt. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions about OCS or NFO.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:I'll preface this with I Am Not A Recruiter, but I wouldn't worry about length. There are other parts of your application that detail your work and leadership experience; the personal statement is your chance to show aspects that aren't captured elsewhere. My advice would be to write something heartfelt, direct, and well-written. My personal statement was fairly simple and boiled down to "I think I'm pretty capable, and I think I would be a good asset to the Navy, please give me the chance to prove it." Some combination of that and my ASTB score seems to have worked, because it sure as poo poo wasn't an impressive college transcript. Agreed. Another piece of advice for those types of statements in general, OCS app or otherwise, is to use it as an opportunity to address what might be perceived as a weakness in your application. Otherwise, 3 pages of bullshit is 3 pages of bullshit and it's pretty glaringly obvious it's bullshit. I've not spent much time on AirWarriors, seems like a lot of dudes taking themselves a little too seriously. On the other hand, I think I know a few guys who post there who I know to be solid dudes.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:I'll preface this with I Am Not A Recruiter, but I wouldn't worry about length. There are other parts of your application that detail your work and leadership experience; the personal statement is your chance to show aspects that aren't captured elsewhere. My advice would be to write something heartfelt, direct, and well-written. My personal statement was fairly simple and boiled down to "I think I'm pretty capable, and I think I would be a good asset to the Navy, please give me the chance to prove it." Some combination of that and my ASTB score seems to have worked, because it sure as poo poo wasn't an impressive college transcript. That's good to know! I've shot you a PM as well, I appreciate the offer! vulturesrow posted:Agreed. Another piece of advice for those types of statements in general, OCS app or otherwise, is to use it as an opportunity to address what might be perceived as a weakness in your application. Otherwise, 3 pages of bullshit is 3 pages of bullshit and it's pretty glaringly obvious it's bullshit. I've not spent much time on AirWarriors, seems like a lot of dudes taking themselves a little too seriously. On the other hand, I think I know a few guys who post there who I know to be solid dudes. Yeah, I'm trying to avoid relying on one source, sadly I don't have much actual experience with the military, so I've had some difficulties in diving which resources to use and those to look at with a skeptical eye. With statements especially I've spent my entire professional career in academia and business, which tends to look at things differently.
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Dont join the military unless you really have a patriotic hard-on. Even as an O.
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Tokyo Sexwhale posted:Dont join the military unless you really have a patriotic hard-on. Even as an O. Do it for the hats. You get more as an O.
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Null Integer posted:Do it for the hats. You get more as an O. What is this TF2? Also NWU Type IIIs for everyone. The uniform carousel continues. Cue carnival music.
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Howard Phillips posted:What is this TF2? Why do you think there was a large spike in manning in 2008, the same year as the Hat update in TF2. The signs are all there!
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Null Integer posted:Do it for the hats. You get more as an O. Null Integer posted:Why do you think there was a large spike in manning in 2008, the same year as the Hat update in TF2. The signs are all there!  Are snazzy bicorns still an option if you hit level, er I mean O-8? Tokyo Sexwhale posted:Dont join the military unless you really have a patriotic hard-on. Even as an O. I've wanted to join since I was pretty young, I actually wanted to enlist out of high school, but a combination of family and just not having my poo poo together at 18 gave me pause. Now I'm out of school and I thought things out I want this, even after hearing some of my friends who were in the service give me the great list of reasons not to do it, I still want to do it.
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Jimmy4400nav posted:That's good to know! I've shot you a PM as well, I appreciate the offer! I'll add to the above advice: if your writing background is in academia and business, you can likely give yourself a leg up by finding and emulating good examples of military-style writing. Conciseness and directness tend to be emphasized more than for most other writing applications, and the people reading your statement will likely be conditioned to expect that, and will judge accordingly, even if they don't do so consciously.
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Octopode posted:I'll add to the above advice: if your writing background is in academia and business, you can likely give yourself a leg up by finding and emulating good examples of military-style writing. Conciseness and directness tend to be emphasized more than for most other writing applications, and the people reading your statement will likely be conditioned to expect that, and will judge accordingly, even if they don't do so consciously. Good to know, I found some samples here, and I've been searching around for others. In general I've been trying to be as succinct as possible. Also just got a call from my recruiter, I've got MEPS next week, after that then I can take my ASTB!
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Jimmy4400nav posted:
Just go undesignated enlisted. Save you a lot of time writing stuff.
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LingcodKilla posted:Just go undesignated enlisted. Save you a lot of time writing stuff. And you get to work with your hands and not be hassled with dumb school crap.
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Jimmy4400nav posted:Good to know, I found some samples here, and I've been searching around for others. In general I've been trying to be as succinct as possible. Godspeed. LingcodKilla posted:Just go undesignated enlisted. Save you a lot of time writing stuff.
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Tokyo Sexwhale posted:Dont join the military unless you really have a patriotic hard-on. Even as an O. Nah, being a Navy O is cool, especially aviation. Being a SWO seems to suck, which is a shame because driving a gigantic loving ship is pretty cool. However from my outsider perspective I've seen some small signs of changes for the better in the SWO community so I'm keeping my fingers crossed for them.
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Jimmy4400nav posted:That's good to know! I've shot you a PM as well, I appreciate the offer! Something I said in my PM that's worth repeating to anyone else talking to an OCS recruiter: One thing to try for with your recruiter, if at all possible, is to get your TS/SCI clearance investigation started as soon as possible. My recruiter was awesome and got mine started while I was waiting to go to OCS; this paid off once I got to flight school and was the only one who had it complete. Everyone else had to work through the very lengthy paperwork process while dealing with all the other flight school admin poo poo, so it's a headache that's really nice to avoid.
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Jimmy4400nav posted:even after hearing some of my friends who were in the service give me the great list of reasons not to do it, I still want to do it. Please put this on your application.
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poopkitty posted:Please put this on your application. Does not listen to great advice when given. Application denied.
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vulturesrow posted:However from my outsider perspective I've seen some small signs of changes for the better in the SWO community so I'm keeping my fingers crossed for them. Hell will freeze over twice before this.
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Jimmy4400nav posted:I've wanted to join since I was pretty young, I actually wanted to enlist out of high school, but a combination of family and just not having my poo poo together at 18 gave me pause. Now I'm out of school and I thought things out I want this, even after hearing some of my friends who were in the service give me the great list of reasons not to do it, I still want to do it. Just understand that what you sign isn't a true guarantee you'll make it to flight school. Aviation is very medically restrictive, and there might be something wrong with your body that they frown upon - even if it doesn't effect your day to day life in any way. The real medical screening will happen while you're actually at OCS, and you may be disqualified from flying but still obligated to serve as an officer in another designator. (You can quit, but the discharge you receive is an eyebrow-raiser when applying for government jobs. It's not bad, just something that'll raise questions) Having finally hit The Fleet, Airwarriors seems kind of weird because there are butterbars and O-3s on that forum that seem jussst fine with random candidates calling them "sir".
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Red Crown posted:Just understand that what you sign isn't a true guarantee you'll make it to flight school. Aviation is very medically restrictive, and there might be something wrong with your body that they frown upon - even if it doesn't effect your day to day life in any way. The real medical screening will happen while you're actually at OCS, and you may be disqualified from flying but still obligated to serve as an officer in another designator. (You can quit, but the discharge you receive is an eyebrow-raiser when applying for government jobs. It's not bad, just something that'll raise questions) Definitely, while aviation is my first choice, I heard about a lot of people getting DQ'd at OCS and NAMI. I don't think I have anything that'd medically DQ me, but I understand between that and needs of the Navy I could end up somewhere else or just booted.
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