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ThePeavstenator posted:I meant in general I like Bolt as a removal spell more and in the Suicide Zoo matchup Jund has access to burn spells. Burn spells are horrible against Suicide Zoo. Jund is never going to be able to play the beatdown in that matchup the way Burn can. You will literally never win a game vs Suicide zoo that way. Errant Gin Monks posted:You just hate Jund I do. But I also think that Abzan is better in the current meta by alot. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Aug 23, 2016 |
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Errant Gin Monks posted:You just hate Jund Yeah but he's actually right, enough people haven't figured it out yet though.
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Yeah but he's actually right, enough people haven't figured it out yet though. Access to anger/pyroclasm/KoCo/bloodmoon is pretty good though. Low cost sweepers is pretty useful as well as two for ones. I think modern sucks balls but I'm more of a jund fan than an abzan fan.
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Errant Gin Monks posted:Access to anger/pyroclasm/KoCo/bloodmoon is pretty good though. Low cost sweepers is pretty useful as well as two for ones. I mean obviously those red cards are good and jund is good, that wasn't the comment he was making. The statement is more that junk is in a good spot right now with the cards it offers. Jund is also very popular right now which makes junk even better because it wins that matchup. Jund is never bad but there are times where junk is a better option based on the metagame.
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Tim Raines IRL posted:speaking of interaction, what's everyone's feeling on the way-too-many-cards Elfball Lands lists floating around? From some minor testing and one event, I think it's probably overall* not as good as either 60-card NO elves or Chaos Elves, but it's a hell of a lot of fun to pilot, and you have so many silver bullets that you at least feel like you have a chance at coming back from board states that would just be scoop in the normal elves decks. I'll probably keep messing with this for the foreseeable future. It's also more consistent than you'd expect an 85 card pile to be, because of the sort of unreasonable number of tutors you have access to (in an Enchantress match I got Ruric Thar out in all 3 games, generally by turn 3). I mostly like the idea of appearing to be the constructed version of guy who plays 54 cards in his draft deck with 20 lands.
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Lawnie posted:I mostly like the idea of appearing to be the constructed version of guy who plays 54 cards in his draft deck with 20 lands. you need to have a bunch of zingers ready. "We're here to play commander, right?" "I've got six natural orders but I'm at 90 cards so I think that's cool?" "I couldn't decide on an archetype so I give you Transformational MiracElves Lands Maverick". Etc.
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Anyone else going to the Baltimore SCG in November? I'm going to do the main legacy event and then modern when i fail to make day 2. Trying to drag my brother and a guy from work, but TBD
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Walked posted:Anyone else going to the Baltimore SCG in November? I'm going to do the main legacy event and then modern when i fail to make day 2. yeah probably Tim Raines IRL posted:I've been messing with a dumb (modern) BUG Elves list that's heavy on 4 drops and uses Eldritch Evolution instead of CoCo because I'm sick of casting CoCo. Master Biomancer feels like a card that ought to be playable somewhere in modern; of course it's very weak to Path, but it survives bolt, and in an elf shell it's not hard to get it out of dismember range. gonna need a list for this immediately
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Walked posted:Anyone else going to the Baltimore SCG in November? I'm going to do the main legacy event and then modern when i fail to make day 2. Yeah.
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AgentSythe posted:yeah probably http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/bug-out-elves/ 2 SoTP instead of 3 might be a mistake, no mainboard Rec Sage is definitely a mistake. Master Biomancer is hilarious.
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Tim Raines IRL posted:http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/bug-out-elves/ loving love master biomancer. 4of in my elves.
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Re: Legacy decks. I played a legacy infect for a while, and it was probably the most unfun deck I've ever played. Generally you drew invigorate, a dude, and they died. Winning never felt fun. And it's not just because it's combo. I play Show and Tell decks, I had ANT together, etc. It just wasn't particularity enjoyable, even in your wins. That being said, I don't think I'd find D&T particularly fun either. If I were going to start with a deck, it'd probably just be Grixis Delver.
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AkumaHokoru posted:loving love master biomancer. 4of in my elves. Do you have a list I can look at?
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Tim Raines IRL posted:Do you have a list I can look at? 3 Ezuri’s Archers 4 Copperhorn Scout 4 Elvish Mystic 4 Joraga Warcaller 3 Dwynen’s Elite 3 Elvish Visionary 4 Nissa’s Chosen 3 Reclamation Sage 4 Elvish Archdruid 4 Master Biomancer 2 Nissa Revane 2 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx 2 Temple of Mystery 4 Oran-Rief, The Vastwood 4 Hinterland Harbor 7 Forest 1 Primal Surge 1 Eldrazi Monument 1 Akroma's Memorial SB 1 Ezuri, Renegade Leader 1 Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Dean 1 Reclamation Sage 2 Door to tomorrow 2 Immaculate Magistrate 2 Imperious Perfect 4 blank This is based off the first deck i had made for myself and slowly (this deck has only recently been looked at with all the new elves i severely lowered the costs in here but still feel it needs more. i want to get a cavern or two and fix the mana spread. AkumaHokoru fucked around with this message at 14:32 on Aug 27, 2016 |
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I actually should go and try to get the caverns and maybe some wirewoods
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So after having finally putting a couple legacy decks together: legacy is the bomb. Holy moly fun
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Walked posted:So after having finally putting a couple legacy decks together: legacy is the bomb. Holy moly fun Confirmed
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Walked posted:So after having finally putting a couple legacy decks together: legacy is the bomb. Holy moly fun I wish Legacy was played around here so I could justify buying into it  The one store that does it weekly is a pain in the rear end to get to and also does it on my favorite gym night. For now I'm just paying down all the debt I can so that when I get to a place with a Legacy scene I can justify duals and the like, heh.
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Walked posted:So after having finally putting a couple legacy decks together: legacy is the bomb. Holy moly fun some day you'll be truly enlightened and start foiling out pauper decks
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:some day you'll be truly enlightened and start foiling out pauper decks My Ub Control is 3/75 Russian/Japanese foil and Tron is like 5/75 (with Alpha CoPs on the board because I have standards.) Any day now.
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now THIS is a fucken deck EDIT: none of the rest of the decks in the top 64 at all 3 of the GPs were anything I hadn't seen before, except this one Boco_T fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Aug 29, 2016 |
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Boco_T posted:now THIS is a fucken deck  Prismatic Omen + Valakut at a GP, that's good poo poo. Someone somewhere has tried that in EDH, right?Not sure if I agree with Boom//Bust, unless the whole point is to use it only when you have Flagstones in play. Manamorphose also seems a little weak, other than for digging for cards you actually want. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Aug 29, 2016 |
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Im the 4 explores (and zero other ramp spells)
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Im the 4 explores (and zero other ramp spells) Explore is a pump spell, not ramp. Deck looks dumb and fun.
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Yeah, it's a landfall deck that uses landfall creatures to run over the opponent or burn them out with Valakut and Scapeshift.
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C-Euro posted:Not sure if I agree with Boom//Bust, unless the whole point is to use it only when you have Flagstones in play. Manamorphose also seems a little weak, other than for digging for cards you actually want. Boom is a 2-mana Stone Rain if you have a fetchland out, even if you ignore the flagstones value.
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Because of the M14 legend rule, you can't do the cute trick of playing a second Flagstones of Trokair and getting two Plains when the lands erase each other from state-based effects.
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It doesn't actually have that many fetches for a landfall deck.
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Jabor posted:Boom is a 2-mana Stone Rain if you have a fetchland out, even if you ignore the flagstones value. Oh I thought there were sac effects on both sides. That's neat.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:It doesn't actually have that many fetches for a landfall deck. Never mind that Scapeshift, Knight of the Reliquary, and Flagstones of Trokair accomplish the same thing.
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Elyv posted:Omen/Valakut(not the rest of this) was a real deck in the last seasons of Extended. You would even sometimes run Warfare(go ahead, look it up) to fetch your Omen.
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I played that deck when modern was young. You could wargate a lot of random bullets or valakut
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C-Euro posted:
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I think that the Titan Ramp decks are the best "Big Mana" decks to be playing right now but I don't understand how that deck ever beats Suicide Zoo. It's been a bye every time I've played the matchup.
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This is what I'm looking to move into, from my current version of Nic Fit, since I feel like I can lose some of the midrange easy-wins as I feel I'm strong enough against the aggro decks I'm facing. Combo is basically a wash for this deck, I hope they don't have it, and hope I draw some hate post-SB, so trying to find where i can gain against the control decks has been key, and this deck plays super sweet. quote:1 Recurring Nightmare Thoughts? (Other than "replace your temple garden with a savannah, and get more ABU duals!")
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mehall posted:This is what I'm looking to move into, from my current version of Nic Fit, since I feel like I can lose some of the midrange easy-wins as I feel I'm strong enough against the aggro decks I'm facing. Cut the too cute jank like Yosei, play max hymns. Hymn will give you more game vs most combo and control decks, especially since you also have cabal therapies.
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L0cke17 posted:Cut the too cute jank like Yosei, play max hymns. Hymn will give you more game vs most combo and control decks, especially since you also have cabal therapies. The older build I had, with more Rhinos, had DL Dromoka in that spot, but Yosei is a lock with Recurring Nightmare. I agree it looks too cute, but Yosei is better than you think, if you get to use the trigger repeatedly, and on a 5/5 flying body. You may be right about hymn though. But BB is tough to guarantee early enough for it to be relevant.
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mehall posted:The older build I had, with more Rhinos, had DL Dromoka in that spot, but Yosei is a lock with Recurring Nightmare. You're probably already winning if you get to have a 6 mana legendary creature in play long enough to sacrifice it to Recurring Nightmare.
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I had grave titan as the finisher in that deck for a long time.
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