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| Goku |
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202 | 7.09% |
| Vegeta |
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279 | 9.79% |
| Krillin |
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208 | 7.30% |
| Piccolo or his nameks |
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212 | 7.44% |
| Gohan or Cool Gohan |
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135 | 4.74% |
| Yamcha |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Tien |
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120 | 4.21% |
| Muten Roshi |
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89 | 3.12% |
| Tao Pai Pai |
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71 | 2.49% |
| Frieza |
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69 | 2.42% |
| Cell or an android |
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86 | 3.02% |
| Buu |
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62 | 2.18% |
| Hercule "Mark" Satan |
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327 | 11.48% |
| Videl |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Bulma |
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104 | 3.65% |
| Yajirobe |
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99 | 3.47% |
| Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy |
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68 | 2.39% |
| King kai or another kai |
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53 | 1.86% |
| Chi-Chi |
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83 | 2.91% |
| Goten |
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43 | 1.51% |
| Trunks or Cool Trunks |
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112 | 3.93% |
| Bardock |
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48 | 1.68% |
| Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) |
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41 | 1.44% |
| Uub |
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42 | 1.47% |
| Oolong |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Zamasu |
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26 | 0.91% |
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BizarroAzrael posted:It seems odd that Toryama introduced 2 distinct fusion methods in one arc. Maybe I've forgotten something but why couldn't Goku and Vegeta just fusion dance themselves? In the story they justify this by saying the Potara Earrings are stronger than the Fusion Dance.
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Aug 23, 2016 16:34
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I think it was more you had to train and practice to use the fusion dance, which they didn't have time for.
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Aug 23, 2016 16:41
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Also didn't Vegeta just literally dropped in right when Goku was fighting Buu? Also yup, even though Goku instant transmission'd Buu found him really quick. Wouldn't had time to dance at all. Shindragon fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Aug 23, 2016 |
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Aug 23, 2016 16:43
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I dunno, I think Buu would have been up for it if they challenged him to a dance-off..
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Aug 23, 2016 16:44
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I think it was a ticking clock thing. Goku was like "oh no i gotta go beat buu" and old kai was like "take these earrings" wasnt goku originally planning on using them with gohan?
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Aug 23, 2016 16:45
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Law Cheetah posted:I think it was a ticking clock thing. Goku was like "oh no i gotta go beat buu" and old kai was like "take these earrings" yea
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Aug 23, 2016 16:58
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Law Cheetah posted:I think it was a ticking clock thing. Goku was like "oh no i gotta go beat buu" and old kai was like "take these earrings" GOKHAN
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Aug 23, 2016 17:01
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Oh yeah, and didn't bullet-catching ultra athlete Gohan fumble it when Goku tossed it to him? They're actually kinda lucky it didn't work out.. They probably would have obliterated Buu, but think of how weird it would be going home to Chichi..
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Aug 23, 2016 17:29
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I feel like Gohan + goku would have created an insanely well adjusted individual who is capable of reasonable training to fight evil while still holding down a job
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Aug 23, 2016 17:33
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New abridged was excellent. Pretty much every character got great jokes in, even Yamcha. Super Jay Mann posted:Eh I've actually been enjoying it again as of late, mostly because LK cut down on all the stupid fanfic nonsense that plagued the Noah arc and finally started poking fun at how stupid the show can be again, and lord knows the Dartz arc had plenty of material in that regard. Yeah in retrospect the meta-humor got way too out of control with YGO Abridged, but it's been pretty funny as of late. Augus fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Aug 23, 2016 |
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Aug 23, 2016 18:10
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One of the names in Cell's list of destroyed cities is Penguin Village, and I call bullshit on that because Arale would have punched him into another galaxy 
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Aug 23, 2016 19:56
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she was on vacationNew Leaf posted:Oh yeah, and didn't bullet-catching ultra athlete Gohan fumble it when Goku tossed it to him? yea gohan didn't catch the earring and they had to go looking for it they could have just wished to separate in tho; they did it in super
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Aug 23, 2016 21:29
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Manatee Cannon posted:yea gohan didn't catch the earring and they had to go looking for it The Namekian dragon balls were powerful enough to work apparently, which they didn't know, but not the Earth balls could not do it.
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Aug 23, 2016 22:08
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The discussion in the JoJo's thread, in combination with playing Xenoverse for the first time recently, has made me feel like watching the old DB/DBZ series, since I barely remember anything about them other than the major antagonists of the three main arcs (Frieza, Cell, Majin Buu). Is there a general consensus in this thread on which release is best, between Kai and the original series (and between specific dubs or subtitled?) I haven't watched a Dragonball in like 15 years, and kind of want to get back in but have no idea where to start, or if I should just say screw it and just watch abridged or whatever to save time. I've read that Kai cuts out a bunch of filler but is it bad filler? I know the driving lessons episode is a thing and I would hate to miss out on that.
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Aug 23, 2016 23:07
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CuddlyZombie posted:Hi thread, if I feel like watching the old dragonball / dragonball z series, is there a general consensus in this thread on which release is best, between kai and the original series (and between specific dubs or subtitled?) I haven't watched a dragonball in like 15 years, and kind of want to get back in but have no idea where to start, or if I even should. Should I just watch abridged? Kai is generally better in terms of pacing and animation. It has a few cuts people dislike but you can just watch the Driving Cars episode online or something and not sit through 5 episodes of padding powerups.
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Aug 23, 2016 23:16
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ImpAtom posted:Kai is generally better in terms of pacing and animation. It has a few cuts people dislike but you can just watch the Driving Cars episode online or something and not sit through 5 episodes of padding powerups. Thanks, you actually caught me while I was editing my post for more info, but yeah, I want to see silly stuff like Driving Cars but could do without entire episodes of powering up and nothing else happening. Is there a list of Filler Episodes to Watch? I could then just pair that with Kai, I bet. Edit: Interesting non-manga stuff is also welcome if it's actually interesting and not just screaming and powering up to stall for time. CuddlyZombie fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Aug 23, 2016 |
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Aug 23, 2016 23:20
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You'll want the cars episode, of course, but Kai also lacks History of Trunks and only shows a bit of Bardock: the Father of Goku, both of which are canon (or...sort-of canon in the case of the latter, thanks to Minus' messy retcons) and absolutely worth the watch. I don't think there's any more filler that's particularly needed. I guess the Otherworld Tournament had some cool moments, like the Super Kaio-ken, but Super now did that better.
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Aug 23, 2016 23:28
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I'd recommend Kai unless you have a second monitor or something to play the original episodes on while you do other things. Pacing in Kai is so much better.
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Aug 23, 2016 23:35
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Blaze Dragon posted:You'll want the cars episode, of course, but Kai also lacks History of Trunks and only shows a bit of Bardock: the Father of Goku, both of which are canon (or...sort-of canon in the case of the latter, thanks to Minus' messy retcons) and absolutely worth the watch. Thanks, this is exactly the kind of info I'm looking for, thanks. I'll probably check out the Otherworld Tournament as well, if other people also think stuff like that is cool. The Ninth Layer posted:I'd recommend Kai unless you have a second monitor or something to play the original episodes on while you do other things. Pacing in Kai is so much better. I mean, I certainly could put it on while grinding in Monster Hunter or whatever, but I'm getting the impression that that's not the best viewing experience. 
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Aug 23, 2016 23:45
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It isn't just them cutting episodes out, they recut the entire show, redubbed the entire thing, and even reanimated some bits. Kai is absolutely the way to go now. Old DBZ looks dated in comparison.
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Aug 23, 2016 23:51
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kai misses the garlick jr stuff if you want to see the b team run around without goku to hold their hand I don't remember if it's good but it's there
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Aug 24, 2016 00:09
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Manatee Cannon posted:kai misses the garlick jr stuff if you want to see the b team run around without goku to hold their hand It's not
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Aug 24, 2016 00:09
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Blaze Dragon posted:You'll want the cars episode, of course, but Kai also lacks History of Trunks and only shows a bit of Bardock: the Father of Goku, both of which are canon (or...sort-of canon in the case of the latter, thanks to Minus' messy retcons) and absolutely worth the watch. If I recall correctly, History of Trunks and Bardock Father of Goku weren't even in the mainline DBZ series though. They were movies/specials or whatever. Kai didn't cut them out. Part of History of Trunks may have been in a little bit, but it was definitely a fleshed out special. If anything Kai actually ADDED Bardock into the mainline cannon of Dragonball Z. You should probably watch the "Good" movies as well. Generally accepted as 'Fun' ones are Dead Zone, History of Trunks, Bardock father of Goku, Bojack Unbound, and Fusion Reborn. Of note, the two new movies are generally well regarded, I happen to really enjoy them, but some don't like the new direction, those are of course Battle of Gods and Ressurection F. World's Strongest, Super Android 13, and Cooler's Revenge get some love. The Abridged versions of these are also awesome. Super Android 13 may be my favorite thing that Team Four Star has done! Lord Slug, Tree of Might, Return of Cooler, Wrath of the Dragon, and all 3 Broly movies are super skippable. I know there is someone out there that loves Tree of Might and Wrath of the Dragon, but meh. Hell I know of people who love Bio Broly, doesn't make it right. Spiritus Nox posted:It's not
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Aug 24, 2016 00:13
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Just what the show whatever way is easier and cheaper and stop worrying about dumb stuff like filler. Nobody that watched Z in 97 cared that Garlic Jr "wasn't cannon" bardock and trunks came out after the frizea saga and are cool movies but nothing you need to watch. Trunks goes over his history in the series and bardocks movie is only useful for sayian history.
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Aug 24, 2016 00:15
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RBX posted:Just what the show whatever way is easier and cheaper and stop worrying about dumb stuff like filler. Nobody that watched Z in 97 cared that Garlic Jr "wasn't cannon" We did call it lovely, though.
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Aug 24, 2016 00:17
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Drowning Rabbit posted:*Movie list* Thanks, I think I'll watch Kai with the recommended movies inserted where it makes sense. I'm a bit curious about what the hell garlic jr. is all about if it's both in a recommended movie as well as filler, but I supposed I can just check a wiki for that if the arc isn't very good?
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Aug 24, 2016 00:19
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^his movie introduces him, his saga in the series is his return. Yeah right. After a million ginyu saga reruns any actual new content was awesome also we were 8
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Aug 24, 2016 00:20
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CuddlyZombie posted:Is there a general consensus in this thread on which release is best, between Kai and the original series (and between specific dubs or subtitled?) I haven't watched a Dragonball in like 15 years, and kind of want to get back in but have no idea where to start, or if I should just say screw it and just watch abridged or whatever to save time. I've read that Kai cuts out a bunch of filler but is it bad filler? I know the driving lessons episode is a thing and I would hate to miss out on that. the manga is the best release
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Aug 24, 2016 00:25
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Yinz forgot the 10 days leading up to the Cell games. I think ocean Vegeta and Frieza sound better too. Haze @goku on twitter if you feel like goonsquading on someone. He's a friend of mine who's a big ol dragonball nerd.
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Aug 24, 2016 00:32
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Drowning Rabbit posted:If I recall correctly, History of Trunks and Bardock Father of Goku weren't even in the mainline DBZ series though. They were movies/specials or whatever. Kai didn't cut them out. Part of History of Trunks may have been in a little bit, but it was definitely a fleshed out special. I said lacks, not cuts. Kai not adapting HIstory of Trunks as an episode of the show was a really weird move when it is canon, as it is based on the manga, and actually really good. Hell, it made Super have to redo a scene for a flashback, with...questionable results. Using a part of Bardock was a really good move though. History of Trunks and Bardock: the Father of Goku are not movies. I also don't agree with a part of your list, Bojack was an incredibly mediocre movie that should be skipped, and Cooler's Revenge definitely deserves top-ranking. Not Meta-Cooler though, that was lame as hell. Wrath of the Dragon has some really cool moments too, even if it could've used less Goku. And yeah, once you finish the series, watching Battle of Gods and Resurrection "F" is a must. Both happen after a special, Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return or something like that which also should be watched. And Super. And the videogames. And the manga. The Dragon Ball train never ends. 
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Aug 24, 2016 00:40
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CuddlyZombie posted:Thanks, I think I'll watch Kai with the recommended movies inserted where it makes sense. I'm a bit curious about what the hell garlic jr. is all about if it's both in a recommended movie as well as filler, but I supposed I can just check a wiki for that if the arc isn't very good? I hate where some of the movies are supposed to be inserted, primarily because most of them make absolutely no sense. There isn't a time period where Gohan would know how to fight, Goku wouldn't have Super Saiyan powers and would be alive on earth at the same time as Piccolo, but that's the general conceit of most of the early movies. Or that the whole gang would hop on a space ship for some new Saiyan empire while waiting for the Cell Games. Don't bother with that nonsense, just watch them and enjoy them as a self contained story.
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Aug 24, 2016 01:12
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All the movies are just alternate timelines or w/e
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Aug 24, 2016 01:22
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Super discussion So are there supposed to be 4 Gods of Destruction since there are 4 kais (well were there's one now.)
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Aug 24, 2016 01:39
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SirKibbles posted:Super discussion So are there supposed to be 4 Gods of Destruction since there are 4 kais (well were there's one now.) It has yet to be specified. I assume it's like horcrux or something.
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Aug 24, 2016 01:47
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SirKibbles posted:Super discussion So are there supposed to be 4 Gods of Destruction since there are 4 kais (well were there's one now.) I see it as a balance thing. God of Destruction cannot exist without a God of Creation (Supreme Kai) there to make new things. So far it seems to be at least one active Supreme Kai is required for a God of Destruction to exist. It's still not given much detail since we only JUST got this information, but so far it seems to be a more "cosmic balance" sort of thing than a Kami-Piccolo style direct link. It does tie back to some of Beerus' comments in various media about how things need to be destroyed before new things can be created.
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Aug 24, 2016 02:10
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SirKibbles posted:Super discussion So are there supposed to be 4 Gods of Destruction since there are 4 kais (well were there's one now.) There were 5, including the Grand Kaioshin that sacrificed himself to turn Buu into Fat Buu. Presumably the current Kaioshin has his job now.
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Aug 24, 2016 02:11
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StrifeHira posted:I see it as a balance thing. God of Destruction cannot exist without a God of Creation (Supreme Kai) there to make new things. So far it seems to be at least one active Supreme Kai is required for a God of Destruction to exist. It's still not given much detail since we only JUST got this information, but so far it seems to be a more "cosmic balance" sort of thing than a Kami-Piccolo style direct link. It does tie back to some of Beerus' comments in various media about how things need to be destroyed before new things can be created. Goku asks if he wanted to beat Beerus if all he had to do was beat the Kai and Whis also says it's fine to tell Goku because he wouldn't do that,so it really does seem like a Kami-Piccolo type thing. I feel like if it just meant he couldn't do anything until a new Kai showed up he wouldn't freak out mostly because he's lazy and he pretty much already does nothing.
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Aug 24, 2016 02:26
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Maybe all the kaioshins were in training like Zamasu was and only the fat kaioshin was an actual one
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Aug 24, 2016 02:35
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He's the Grand Supreme Kai, the rest had directional names like the normal Kais
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Aug 24, 2016 02:37
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SirKibbles posted:Goku asks if he wanted to beat Beerus if all he had to do was beat the Kai and Whis also says it's fine to tell Goku because he wouldn't do that,so it really does seem like a Kami-Piccolo type thing. I feel like if it just meant he couldn't do anything until a new Kai showed up he wouldn't freak out mostly because he's lazy and he pretty much already does nothing. That's... basically what I said, though? There's a cosmic link between them, and Beerus as a God of Destruction can't exist without a God of Creation to balance him. He'd be gone if the Supreme Kai died, because that guy is the only living one left. If it were the Grand Supreme Kai or the West Supreme Kai or whoever that survived Buu's rampage, Beerus would still be fine. He himself isn't personally linked to the surviving Supreme Kai like Piccolo and Kami were, but that their "positions" as creator god and destroyer god are linked. It's like a cosmic check on the Gods of Destruction to make sure they don't go too far when they destroy things. There weren't multiple Gods of Destruction out there, and Beerus existed before the current Supreme Kai even came into being (Elder Kai was sealed by him, remember), but there always existed someone in the Supreme Kai role while Beerus has been around.
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