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No Safe Word posted:I mean... Activision Blizzard is a multibillion dollar megacorporation. In aggregate I suppose if Overwatch proves to be a more profitable product this might be true but ... Each game has to stand on its own when developers approach the finance people with cap in hand and ask for money to expand.
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Poor Activision Blizzard, Inc, a publicly traded company, needs all the help from us gamers as it can get.
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Aug 24, 2016 17:17
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if Blizzard's business practices bother you then the best way to fix it is to join the revolution and destroy the decadence of capitalism
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Aug 24, 2016 17:18
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strong bird posted:Poor Activision Blizzard, Inc, a publicly traded company, needs all the help from us gamers as it can get. Yeah, it's totally about charitable help for Activision and not about the basic fact that a profitable venture will receive greater investment of time and resources from its creator than an unprofitable one.
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Aug 24, 2016 17:19
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So you admit it, then. Base coward. Scoundrel.
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Aug 24, 2016 17:20
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the bigger the corporation, the bigger the return has to be for the investors and stockholders to be happy. "your game last month made us a billion dollars. this month you must make a billion point two."
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Aug 24, 2016 17:20
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That doesn't mean that they have to do their lovely f2p mechanics in a really annoying way though.
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Aug 24, 2016 17:22
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Kerrrrrrr posted:the bigger the corporation, the bigger the return has to be for the investors and stockholders to be happy. "your game last month made us a billion dollars. this month you must make a billion point two." I guess the Investors and Stockholders must be pretty angry about StarCraft: II, Heroes of the Storm, and Over:Watch after the smash hits of World Of WarCraft: and Diablo: III
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Aug 24, 2016 17:23
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Andrast posted:I'm loving horrible at aiming and I managed to get to rank 70. 
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Aug 24, 2016 17:24
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I'll give this game 5 months before the insane WoW developer that only plays on a tablet and doesn't know what a mouse is gets his purple dyed hands on it
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Aug 24, 2016 17:24
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Asimo posted:If you're at rank 70 you're not horrible at aiming, even if the modesty is appreciated. The only character I can aim with is Zenyatta. Otherwise I tend to play characters that don't really need to aim well when I want to win. So, lots of Reinhardt, Mercy, Lucio and Winston. Also, I'm not 70 anymore. I have since dropped to 64.
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Aug 24, 2016 17:26
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strong bird posted:I guess the Investors and Stockholders must be pretty angry about StarCraft: II, Heroes of the Storm, and Over:Watch after the smash hits of World Of WarCraft: and Diablo: III I can't tell if you're joking but I'm sure the investors are furious about every game Blizzard has launched since Warcraft II.
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Aug 24, 2016 17:37
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I don't have a problem throwing a bit of extra cash at blizzard for keeping the game good. I just don't like the gambling bit. If they introduced a $5 premium-only skin I'd have no objection even if there was no way whatsoever to get it in-game and I might even pick it up. It'd make some people mad still, but at the moment the real issue imo is that there's no way to guarantee getting what you want without just throwing money down a hole forever. Haven't bought any loot boxes, never will. Been busy recently I couldn't play this weekend because of internet problems and no summer skins for me. Sucks.
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Aug 24, 2016 17:42
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Just waltzed through Hananura on solo QP with a six man Zarya fest. It was the single best moment of Overwatch I've had.
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Aug 24, 2016 17:46
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Hahaha 150 boxes holy poo poo.
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Aug 24, 2016 17:48
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CaptainScraps posted:I will go batshit and buy boxes if I can dress Mei like a penguin. It's very strange that she has a 'Freeze, don't move!' voice clip but no cop outfit
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Aug 24, 2016 17:53
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Verranicus posted:Hahaha 150 boxes holy poo poo. would love to be a Blizz employee tracking stats to see how much an individual person drops for loot boxes and laughing
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Aug 24, 2016 17:55
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It would have been a lot more attractive if Blizzard offered cosmetic content packs with the option of unlocking items via random lootboxes from playing. But that's what responsible companies do. Instead, Blizz is like every greedy company (Yes, even Valve,) they choose to exploit the addictive nature of gambling to fleece their customers. I'll pay for extras to keep a game's servers and employees afloat if it's a fair deal; but only giving me the option of "chance" is straight up anti-consumer.
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Aug 24, 2016 18:00
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Zephyrine posted:If It wasn't for me the rest of you wouldn't be able to enjoy these F2P games. Overwatch isn't F2P.
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Aug 24, 2016 18:01
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Blizzard has sold over 15,000,000 copies and has made (prior to the Summer Games) over $500,000,000, resulting in an all-time sales record for Activision-Blizzard and the most successful launch Blizzard has ever had (yes, bigger than anything with "Craft" in the name). Players have spent at least over $900,000,000 on loot boxes (once again, before the Summer Games). I wouldn't worry about their ability to support Overwatch. It's gonna be fine.
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Aug 24, 2016 18:02
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Overwatch isn't F2P. if he pretends it is he can justify his scratch and win habit.
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Aug 24, 2016 18:05
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Papercut posted:I bought $20 of loot boxes because I figured I only paid $40 for the game originally and I've gotten way more than my money's worth already. Plus extra revenue for Blizzard means better ongoing support and additions to the game, which means I get to keep enjoying it that much more. I managed to get everything I wanted from the summer boxes aside from America McCree, but I did get Gambler McCree in one of my purchased boxes, which is his best regular skin, so it's all good. I'm sure I'll drop another $20 when the Halloween event rolls around, because this is a fun game that is well worth putting more than the original sticker price into. Congratulations on helping the underfunded kickstarter company, Blizzard, subsidiary of American company Blizzard Activision (operating income $1.3 billion 2015). It was touch and go for them there for a while but you pulled them through the dark times. They have now hit their stretch goal of swimming through a giant money bin like Scrooge McDuck.
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Aug 24, 2016 18:06
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Overwatch isn't F2P. No because you keep buying it.
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Aug 24, 2016 18:06
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Blizzard has sold over 15,000,000 copies and has made (prior to the Summer Games) over $500,000,000, resulting in an all-time sales record for Activision-Blizzard and the most successful launch Blizzard has ever had (yes, bigger than anything with "Craft" in the name). Players have spent at least over $900,000,000 on loot boxes (once again, before the Summer Games). Yeah, this just means that in Q3 shareholders will expect them to sell 20,000,000 copies and spend over a trillion on loot boxes. It doesn't matter how big the numbers are; it's never, ever good enough for the investor.
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Aug 24, 2016 18:07
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It's not like the Overwatch income goes into the Overwatch development fund. It goes to the company and then when the development team wants to spend a hundred thousand bucks making a new map. They have to convince finance that in the long run they will recoup that money.
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Aug 24, 2016 18:11
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You paid 120 bucks and our new map count is at one. Well done. You know companies use to release content for free. People use to mock horse armor. I miss those days.
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Aug 24, 2016 18:17
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Yeah the release schedule is for Overwatch is really loving slow if you consider how much money it's making.
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Aug 24, 2016 18:19
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Duck and Cover posted:You paid 120 bucks and our new map count is at one. Well done. You know companies use to release content for free. Yes back when you didn't need twenty 3D animators and a movement capture studio to build a room and get the protagonist to cross it.
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Aug 24, 2016 18:21
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Zephyrine posted:Yes back when you didn't need twenty 3D animators and a movement capture studio to build a room and get the protagonist to cross it. Which you don't need for retextures. There's like four wave animations they just reused for different heroes. gently caress they even reuse art (WOW) for Hearthstone cards. You know I had a theory as to why the glasses on Mei's table tennis icon are hard to read. The art was intended to be larger but someone said "hey lets make icons so people get less skins". Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Aug 24, 2016 |
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Aug 24, 2016 18:23
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FrostyPox posted:I'm now spending an inappropriate amount of time trying to think of "i hanjo" names for the rest of the cast. I think the best names come from chat, talking as someone who's been privy to meltdowns about a bad Renart and a bad Wilson.
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Aug 24, 2016 18:28
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Donnerberg posted:I think the best names come from chat, talking as someone who's been privy to meltdowns about a bad Renart and a bad Wilson. Hahah! No Wilson. No! Wilsoooooonnnnn
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Aug 24, 2016 18:30
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Reinhardt better get a Frankenstein skin for Halloween. Also Ana should get a mummy skin and Hanzo should get a Robin Hood outfit. Roadhog could get a Jason style skin with a hockey mask, and 76 could get a Thriller style getup or something. Junkrat... uh... kinda already has a bunch of Halloween skins. Maybe he'd ironically get a normal outfit, or they'd do a Leto Joker or something?
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Aug 24, 2016 18:31
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Duck and Cover posted:Which you don't need for retextures. There's like four wave animations they just reused for different heroes. gently caress they even reuse art for Hearthstone cards. You know I had a theory as to why the glasses on Mei's table tennis icon are hard to read. The art was intended to be larger but someone said "hey lets make icons so people get less skins". We're on a forum where people pay for the honour of registering and Avatars. The glass house has been pulverized into a crystal mist at this point.
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Fuzz posted:Reinhardt better get a Frankenstein skin for Halloween. Also Ana should get a mummy skin and Hanzo should get a Robin Hood outfit. Roadhog could get a Jason style skin with a hockey mask, and 76 could get a Thriller style getup or something. Junkrat... uh... kinda already has a bunch of Halloween skins. Maybe he'd ironically get a normal outfit, or they'd do a Lego Joker or something? THIS. Junkrat outfit during his boring 9-to-5 cubicle job in the accounting dept. of a corporate in Sydney.
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Aug 24, 2016 18:34
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Andrast posted:Yeah the release schedule is for Overwatch is really loving slow if you consider how much money it's making. Uh it's been out for like 3 months and they've released 1 new hero and there's a map that's coming out probably next week. That's not even counting competitive. 1.5 months for each new piece of content is damned loving quick
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Aug 24, 2016 18:35
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Bolivar posted:THIS. Junkrat outfit during his boring 9-to-5 cubicle job in the accounting dept. of a corporate in Sydney. That's what drove him insane!
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Aug 24, 2016 18:36
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Donnerberg posted:I think the best names come from chat, talking as someone who's been privy to meltdowns about a bad Renart and a bad Wilson. These are good. I also like Marcy, Genju, and Tracker. So far all I've come up with are Roper and Jerkrunt. EDIT: Oh also Windowmaker is a good one
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Aug 24, 2016 18:36
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If folks want to dump whatever dollar amount of money in Overwatch, that's fine. As much as I don't like the way they're doing it, I am glad it's a success, at least. Holdouts like me are in an inevitable minority, and virtual gacha is a terrifyingly powerful way to separate money from people. At best I am a pebble trying to hold back a stream.
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Aug 24, 2016 18:40
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Bolivar posted:THIS. Junkrat outfit during his boring 9-to-5 cubicle job in the accounting dept. of a corporate in Sydney. Junkrat in Beavis' fast food uniform
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The way I see it is that I neither drink nor smoke. And with some of the entertainment money I save. I'll spend binging on lootboxes on a Friday night. Then when I wake up on Saturday morning instead of a headache I wake up to a few neat skins 
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